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RJCox · December 2003

Ok, I'm still debating whether or not to pick this one up, heavily leaning in favor of doing so, but I had a couple questions that I couldn't find the answers to, maybe some of you could help:

1. Do guilds have cusomizable individual emblems ala DAoC and Shadowbane, and if so can said emblem be placed on cloaks, shields, etc?

2. The FAQ states that you can choose a class from the Adventuring sphere and one from the Crafting sphere, or just pick one period. Does picking one from each diminish how far you can advance in either onw? For example, would a pure Warrior be better than a Warrior/Armorsmith or a pure Armorsmith be better than the aforementyioned combo?

3. Do any of the races gain actual bonuses to crafting? I know it said Gnomes make good crafters, but is it because of a specific bonus or just because they felt the lore should sound that way? Would a Gnome make a better crafter than a Half-Giant or Human for example?

4. The biggest complaint I've seen from browsing forums is lack of content... Is it really that bad?

5. Whats the server populations like?

6. Any other major problems or concerns? (Not asking opinions, I really don't care if you like the game or not, don't care to hear any crackheaded d00d speak responses like "It r teh suq" or "It rox." I wanna know about problems with the game, bugs, and such, also if you really like a feature, feel free to tell about it also, this can be positive too.)

Kunou
GM - Desolation
www.desolation-guild.org/genforum

Kiamde · December 2003

lol all you questions are sooo shallow.

Who cares about emblem? Who cares about massive amount of people in the first week? Its good. Ok?

RJCox · December 2003

Apparently I care else I wouldn't have asked.

kkthx, you're dismissed, anyone with some REAL insight care to answer?

Kunou
GM - Desolation
www.desolation-guild.org/genforum

Neoklis · December 2003

can only say as it was in beta... no emblems, no diff in crafting based on race they are all the same, vanishing NPCs, loads of time wasted when zoning were the 2 biggest problems in beta, personal minuses with the game i had were... lack of content, combat system is horrible/boring/auto-attack&fall asleep. For me game was a disappoitment, I'd rather to go back and grind my AA points in EQ.

teratya · December 2003

Another beta tester blowing smoke out his arse!! Let me objectively answer the questions.....

Originally posted by Kunou
Ok, I'm still debating whether or not to pick this one up, heavily leaning in favor of doing so, but I had a couple questions that I couldn't find the answers to, maybe some of you could help:

1. Do guilds have cusomizable individual emblems ala DAoC and Shadowbane, and if so can said emblem be placed on cloaks, shields, etc?

No Emblems at this time. I know that tattoos were going to be implemented, and assume that this could be translated to emblems.

2. The FAQ states that you can choose a class from the Adventuring sphere and one from the Crafting sphere, or just pick one period. Does picking one from each diminish how far you can advance in either onw? No, only time spent crafting will take away from time spent adventuring, and vise versa, therefore slowing the rate of progression. For example, would a pure Warrior be better than a Warrior/Armorsmith or a pure Armorsmith be better than the aforementyioned combo? I am sure that again, advancement would lead to the single school class being able to advance quicker for time reasons only, otherwise if you are able to play both equally there would be no difference. You would get to make your own armor for your warrior though which is cool.

3. Do any of the races gain actual bonuses to crafting? I know it said Gnomes make good crafters, but is it because of a specific bonus or just because they felt the lore should sound that way? Would a Gnome make a better crafter than a Half-Giant or Human for example? As one did state before, No. I do beleive this should change, but do not know if it will.

4. The biggest complaint I've seen from browsing forums is lack of content... Is it really that bad? I dont beleive so. I have traversed much land at times without seeing any NPCs or MOBs, however have seen MANY structures. I assume they are waiting until people start to move further out to add more stuff. You have to remember with this being a world with no zones, they may not want to populate the entire world in the beginning as it may have caused more issues at launch. As for the beta reviews I have read there is TONs more content that Artifact may have added for launch then they led to believe.

5. Whats the server populations like? I play on Shadow and it is DAMN full in the starting islands, the main towns are still pretty desolate, but people are working their way there. It is pretty busy. I am able to converse, and sell items with relative ease.

6. Any other major problems or concerns? (Not asking opinions, I really don't care if you like the game or not, don't care to hear any crackheaded d00d speak responses like "It r teh suq" or "It rox." I wanna know about problems with the game, bugs, and such, also if you really like a feature, feel free to tell about it also, this can be positive too.) There are a lot of bugs and glitches, however I have seen fixes quite quick on many of them. To be expected with any launch. I feel that in the coming weeks things are only to get better. Just remember when starting that you can fully customize you interface. Lots of people getting pissed beacause they thought there was no mouse look. You just have to set it up.

Kunou
GM - Desolation
www.desolation-guild.org/genforum

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David_Wolfpa · December 2003

I played in beta a little while ago, I really wanted to like the game... I tried guilding, crafting, combat and just about everything you could do in the game, this game has alot of emphasis put on crafting and combat seems to be just like an add-on to the game, the combat is really dull, and i mean REALLY dull, just point and click... Crafting.. its better than any other MMORPGS, but still, its boring. Gather resources, smelt them, make an item, sell it (or wear it), repeat, its not really much fun crafting, just more in depth than other games. And one thing I found about crafting which really sucked, is the fact that even if you are a master armorsmith for example the leather armor you make will be exactly the same as a novice armorsmiths, protection wise, they should have made it so that the better armorsmiths can make the better armor, like on SWG for example, a master armorsmith can make much better Composite armor than someone who's just learnt how to make it..

I've played alot of MMORPG's, loaaaadss, just about nearly every mmorpg out there, this one doesn't really compare at all to games like Final Fantasy XI, Neocron, Everquest or even Star wars galaxies, I had much more fun playing these titles than this... disaster of a game.

Also, expect to be ignored alot of this game, not many people speak english, and most players can't be botherd to answer your questions, they are usually too busy crafting or macroing.

My advice is: get Final Fantasy XI, it is a much better MMORPG, Horizons doesn't deserve the 8.1 score its currently got in my opinion.!

spikedragon · December 2003

omg that was the best reply to a question i've ever seen........no opinionating at all........just facts.........that was the best i've ever seen questions answered

edit: i'm refering to teratya's post

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David_Wolfpa · December 2003

why, thank you!

edit: damn lol

spikedragon · December 2003

sorry......your was based alot on opinion on weather or not he should play the game....it didn't answer his questions but that's ok it was good opinionated post

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teratya · December 2003

Thank you. I appreciate that. Im kind of tired of the posts blasting Horizons with no basis. I have played EQ, UO, and AC, and have a pretty good background on these games. I feel that Horizons has a lot of upside, but has a lot of issues to work out. As for some other comments that others have made. The combat is nothing spectacular, however its pretty much no different from the others I have played, so its not horrible like people have stated. As a matter of fact I like that as a warrior I have different skills to use other than just fighting. It is fun. Its cool to have someone else use the Rend Armor skill and then you are set up to use Power Strike. That is an opinion there for ya. With regard to crafting as the crafters get better they will be able to use techniques and will have greater access to better ones than someone who is lower level. Applying a technique will allow them to differentiate their materials from a beginners. Beginners may be able to use techniques that they would not normally have if its given to them someone, but I am not sure, and I can see how that would be an issue. Hope this helps again!

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Vic - "Androzzi here"
John - "Vic, your case just busted wide open."
Vic - "So close it for me!"
John - "Looks like your going to have to close it yourself, SHITTY!!!!"

RJCox · December 2003

MAJOR Thank you Teratya, excellent reply, exactly the types of answers I was looking for.

Still in the decision making process but leaning even more towards picking it up. Guess I'll have to see if a couple people from my guild want to join me there.

Kunou
GM - Desolation
www.desolation-guild.org/genforum

teratya · December 2003

Not a problem. If you plan to hook it up Im on the Shadow server. Vanguard MacLeod of the Clan of Celtic Kinsmen. Send me a tell if you end up there!

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Vic - "Androzzi here"
John - "Vic, your case just busted wide open."
Vic - "So close it for me!"
John - "Looks like your going to have to close it yourself, SHITTY!!!!"

Neoklis · December 2003

teratya... I dont agree with you at all.. sory to say.

UO's crafting system is lot more indepth and fun then HZ's and i beta-tested HZ for 3 months.

teratya · December 2003

Well I played UO for a couple years, and its indeed a great system, however I feel that Horizons system coupled with the consigners, and the fact that you cannot get good items unless it is crafted, along with an all around updated game from UO, makes this a better system. UO is still formidable though.

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Vic - "Androzzi here"
John - "Vic, your case just busted wide open."
Vic - "So close it for me!"
John - "Looks like your going to have to close it yourself, SHITTY!!!!"

RJCox · December 2003

Will definitely be picking it up, at least one person in my guild already playing it, gonna find out what server she went to and see if anyone else is playing and if so on what server and go from there. If it ends up being Shadow I'll definitely look ya up.

Kunou
GM - Desolation
www.desolation-guild.org/genforum

Kiamde · December 2003

lol I hate it when people say they know everything about Horizons because they beta tested for X months.

Kiamde

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