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20-Year-Old Baseball Star Killed While Playing Pokemon Go

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  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    SBFord said:
    JakeSim said:
    And why is pokemon go have any significance here?
    Because that's what he was doing when he was shot in a random act of violence. It's not the cause, but it played at least a minor role in the incident.

    $40k for US funerals plus travel expenses for his family which is mostly based on the East Coast isn't out of line.

    That isn't a cause effect relationship. 
    http://www.youhaventlived.com/qblog/2010/QBlog190810A.html  

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    Kyleran:  "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."

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    FreddyNoNose:  "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."

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  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Member RarePosts: 1,247
    Horusra said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:

    tawess said:

    something something gun control.



    something something if he was carrying he wouldn't have been shot
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.

    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    People who go out to shoot people people for shits and giggles aren't concerned with other people, period.
    This did not appear to be someone that was on a suicide mission.  If I thought there was a good chance I would be shot back at by people if I shot at someone it might make me think twice. 
    You read an article and feel confident to say "This did not appear to be someone that was on a suicide mission"...commenting on what the killer planned. Unless you are the killer or someone they spoke to I think this path of discussion is just pure speculation and a waste.
  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    Horusra said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:

    tawess said:

    something something gun control.



    something something if he was carrying he wouldn't have been shot
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.

    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    People who go out to shoot people people for shits and giggles aren't concerned with other people, period.
    This did not appear to be someone that was on a suicide mission.  If I thought there was a good chance I would be shot back at by people if I shot at someone it might make me think twice. 
    You read an article and feel confident to say "This did not appear to be someone that was on a suicide mission"...commenting on what the killer planned. Unless you are the killer or someone they spoke to I think this path of discussion is just pure speculation and a waste.

    The fact that he did not stay around killing others kind of says it was not a suicide mission.  It is called deductive reasoning.
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.
    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    I don't think anyone shooting people for that reason think much at all, and I don't think the poor dude who got shot had enough attention on the people around him to to defend himself either even if he had a gun. I seen those Pokemon hunters, they just stare on their phones all the time.

    In this case the idiot murderer could have used a knife as well so blaming it on the gun is not very convincing either. It is a different case when someone use an automatic weapon in a crowded place which clearly get more people killed then a knife wielding maniac but in this case both your arguments belong to another discussion. 

    I will not input my personal view here (but neither of you would probably like it) since a mod already told us not to get political here, my point is that it also is off topic here.  So cut it out and stay on topic.
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    edited August 2016
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:

    tawess said:

    something something gun control.



    something something if he was carrying he wouldn't have been shot
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.

    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    And if no one was that wouldn't even come up.

    yes cause these things still happen in gun free zones and countries with heavy gun laws.

    Actually, there is plenty of empirical evidence that gun reform actually reduces the number of violent crimes associated with firearms. Honestly, you're just being willfully ignorant. A simple google search shows that there have been marked decreases in gun-related violence when stricter gun laws are in place. 

    Tell you what, I'll stick with my gun laws here in Canada, and you arm every American. Let's see who runs out of people first. 


    Crazkanuk

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    Azarelos - 90 Hunter - Emerald
    Durnzig - 90 Paladin - Emerald
    Demonicron - 90 Death Knight - Emerald Dream - US
    Tankinpain - 90 Monk - Azjol-Nerub - US
    Brindell - 90 Warrior - Emerald Dream - US
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  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    Loke666 said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.
    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    I don't think anyone shooting people for that reason think much at all, and I don't think the poor dude who got shot had enough attention on the people around him to to defend himself either even if he had a gun. I seen those Pokemon hunters, they just stare on their phones all the time.

    In this case the idiot murderer could have used a knife as well so blaming it on the gun is not very convincing either. It is a different case when someone use an automatic weapon in a crowded place which clearly get more people killed then a knife wielding maniac but in this case both your arguments belong to another discussion. 

    I will not input my personal view here (but neither of you would probably like it) since a mod already told us not to get political here, my point is that it also is off topic here.  So cut it out and stay on topic.

    Mods keeping his topic open makes a joke of their saying stay away from politics.
  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    CrazKanuk said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:

    tawess said:

    something something gun control.



    something something if he was carrying he wouldn't have been shot
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.

    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    And if no one was that wouldn't even come up.

    yes cause these things still happen in gun free zones and countries with heavy gun laws.

    Actually, there is plenty of empirical evidence that gun reform actually reduces the number of violent crimes associated with firearms. Honestly, you're just being willfully ignorant. A simple google search shows that there have been marked decreases in gun-related violence when stricter gun laws are in place. 

    Tell you what, I'll stick with my gun laws here in Canada, and you arm every American. Let's see who runs out of people first. 



    Chicago begs to differ.
  • HighMarshalHighMarshal Member UncommonPosts: 415
    Two thoughts:
    1. How do we know it was a random act of violence if they have no idea who did it or why? Could be premeditated.
    2. Maybe he was ganked by a Pokemon.
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Horusra said:
    CrazKanuk said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:

    tawess said:

    something something gun control.



    something something if he was carrying he wouldn't have been shot
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.

    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    And if no one was that wouldn't even come up.

    yes cause these things still happen in gun free zones and countries with heavy gun laws.

    Actually, there is plenty of empirical evidence that gun reform actually reduces the number of violent crimes associated with firearms. Honestly, you're just being willfully ignorant. A simple google search shows that there have been marked decreases in gun-related violence when stricter gun laws are in place. 

    Tell you what, I'll stick with my gun laws here in Canada, and you arm every American. Let's see who runs out of people first. 



    Chicago begs to differ.

    You're talking about systemic issues. If getting rid of guns was a silver bullet (no pun intended) then I'm sure it would have been done long ago. It's very simple to pick and choose evidence based on fact. However, that doesn't change the fact that the US has higher rates of firearm related deaths than places that Americans are afraid to go. Did you know that the US has a higher rate of death by firearm per capita than Mexico? They have a rate that's 5 times higher than Canada, 10 times higher than Australia, and 20 times higher than Great Britain. 

    As far as Chicago goes, Illinois' rate of death by firearm is actually 10% lower than the national average and they are nearly in the top 10 (11th) in states with the lowest rate of death by firearm. 

    That being said, I wouldn't expect you to change your view. As I said, just arm every American. It's not a matter of gun control as a silver bullet. However, if every person WAS armed, then you have that mix of things like situational + tools + opportunity which leads to these types of crimes. 

    That being said, I know nothing because I'm just a socialist pig, pacifist sitting up here in Canada. 

    Crazkanuk

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    Azarelos - 90 Hunter - Emerald
    Durnzig - 90 Paladin - Emerald
    Demonicron - 90 Death Knight - Emerald Dream - US
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    Brindell - 90 Warrior - Emerald Dream - US
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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,875
    Man shot while driving, woman shot while drinking pop, kid shot while skateboarding. P-GO had nothing to do with the story unless he was where he should not be.
  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    bestever said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:

    tawess said:

    something something gun control.



    something something if he was carrying he wouldn't have been shot
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.

    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    Tell that to the people in AZ who keep getting shot. Most armed people in the US and all those armed people haven't made a difference. 

    States with the highest gun ownership have the lowest gun related murder rates.  Gun Deaths is not a good stat cause that includes suicides.
  • khameleonkhameleon Member UncommonPosts: 486
    $40,000? They are trying to profit from a tragedy that is sad.

    GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!

  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    khameleon said:
    $40,000? They are trying to profit from a tragedy that is sad.

    Seeing as you do not know what they are going to do with the money......
  • Moguy3Moguy3 Member UncommonPosts: 70
    There is more to this than meets the eye. Im sure in the next couple weeks the truth will come out.
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Horusra said:
    bestever said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:

    tawess said:

    something something gun control.



    something something if he was carrying he wouldn't have been shot
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.

    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    Tell that to the people in AZ who keep getting shot. Most armed people in the US and all those armed people haven't made a difference. 

    States with the highest gun ownership have the lowest gun related murder rates.  Gun Deaths is not a good stat cause that includes suicides.
    Picture being in a dark theater where everyone is packing for personal protection. Then imagine a Nut Job taking a pot shot and the ensuing carnage that would be sure to follow. 


    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • OyjordOyjord Member UncommonPosts: 571

    filmoret said:


    Scambug said:

    If you don't want people talking about politics and more specifically firearm laws, don't bring up these kinds of stories.
    The guy got shot because he ran into some thug carrying a gun, not because he was playing pokemon go.


    Dude I wanna beat the crap out of everyone I see playing that game.  So no wonder someone shot him.



    So much hate in your heart for those who play a harmless game. Your mother failed at raising you into a decent human being.
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    Nanfoodle said:
    Man shot while driving, woman shot while drinking pop, kid shot while skateboarding. P-GO had nothing to do with the story unless he was where he should not be.

    Lawyers with $$ in their eyes sees it differently.  OMG, someone killed drinking their starbucks, obviously Starbucks fault.  Sue for money.
    http://www.youhaventlived.com/qblog/2010/QBlog190810A.html  

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    Kyleran:  "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."

    John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."

    FreddyNoNose:  "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."

    LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"




  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    MikeB said:
    Keep politics out of this discussion. Religious or political discussion is not allowed on our forums.

    This is an politics thread.  Just the subject alone is politics.
    http://www.youhaventlived.com/qblog/2010/QBlog190810A.html  

    Epic Music:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1

    https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1

    Kyleran:  "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."

    John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."

    FreddyNoNose:  "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."

    LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"




  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    laserit said:
    Horusra said:
    bestever said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:

    tawess said:

    something something gun control.



    something something if he was carrying he wouldn't have been shot
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.

    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    Tell that to the people in AZ who keep getting shot. Most armed people in the US and all those armed people haven't made a difference. 

    States with the highest gun ownership have the lowest gun related murder rates.  Gun Deaths is not a good stat cause that includes suicides.
    Picture being in a dark theater where everyone is packing for personal protection. Then imagine a Nut Job taking a pot shot and the ensuing carnage that would be sure to follow. 



    Imagine a nut job deciding way early not to attack theater cause everyone would be armed and instead going to a gun free zone that that theater was.
  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    The only way 40k for a funeral is not out of line is if there is something wrong with your head or you're rich. That's alot of money. 

    As for the pokemon go link... I'm not surprised. 
  • LIOKILIOKI Member UncommonPosts: 421
    Pokestop...............


  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    edited August 2016
    Horusra said:
    laserit said:
    Horusra said:
    bestever said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:

    tawess said:

    something something gun control.



    something something if he was carrying he wouldn't have been shot
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.

    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    Tell that to the people in AZ who keep getting shot. Most armed people in the US and all those armed people haven't made a difference. 

    States with the highest gun ownership have the lowest gun related murder rates.  Gun Deaths is not a good stat cause that includes suicides.
    Picture being in a dark theater where everyone is packing for personal protection. Then imagine a Nut Job taking a pot shot and the ensuing carnage that would be sure to follow. 



    Imagine a nut job deciding way early not to attack theater cause everyone would be armed and instead going to a gun free zone that that theater was.
    Maybe if a nut job thinks rationally. Trouble is... if they did think rationally, they wouldn't be a nut job.

    The amount of arms in U.S. society, sure keeps the cops from being too trigger happy. Fuck they have a tough job. 

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    laserit said:
    Horusra said:
    laserit said:
    Horusra said:
    bestever said:
    Horusra said:
    Iselin said:
    Myrdynn said:

    tawess said:

    something something gun control.



    something something if he was carrying he wouldn't have been shot
    Yeah 'cause if you carry that automatically makes you the fastest draw in the west. Dumb fucks with guns... yeah, great system.

    If a lot of people are armed around you might think twice about going out shooting at someone for shits and giggles. 
    Tell that to the people in AZ who keep getting shot. Most armed people in the US and all those armed people haven't made a difference. 

    States with the highest gun ownership have the lowest gun related murder rates.  Gun Deaths is not a good stat cause that includes suicides.
    Picture being in a dark theater where everyone is packing for personal protection. Then imagine a Nut Job taking a pot shot and the ensuing carnage that would be sure to follow. 



    Imagine a nut job deciding way early not to attack theater cause everyone would be armed and instead going to a gun free zone that that theater was.
    Maybe if a nut job thinks rationally. Trouble is... if they did think rationally, they wouldn't be a nut job.

    The amount of arms in U.S. society, sure keeps the cops from being too trigger happy. Fuck they have a tough job. 

    it is all assumptions.  They think rationally enough to plan the start of their assaults.  Sociopath =/= non-rational
  • GameByNightGameByNight Hardware and Technology EditorMMORPG.COM Staff, Member RarePosts: 808
    edited August 2016
    Could be, but probably isn't. If Pokémon Go is being reported, they probably found the app open on his phone or he told someone what he was doing. What someone is doing at the time of their death is relevant and very often included in news reports.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited August 2016
    Could be, but probably isn't. If Pokémon Go is being reported, they probably found the app open on his phone or he told someone what he was doing. What someone is doing at the time of their death is relevant and very often included in news reports.
    Sometimes people say they were doing one thing to cover up what they really were doing.

    / mic drop

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