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Sandi Gardiner Stops Social Media Over Targeted Harrassment

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  • AlomarAlomar Member RarePosts: 1,299
    Why do ya'll care so much? A lot of nerds wasted a lot of money on a video game that's been mishandled. So what, don't worry about it. It will come out sometime this century I have no doubt.
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  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    MaxBacon said:
    OH Wow... I did open DS's feed out of morbid curiosity, most of his recent pictures are of Sandi Gardiner... Trolling the hashtag people were sending her messages.

    And posts and picture of Her watermarked with a link to a Porn Website... Classy Move.
    I believe he removed them. Although his followers had a field day with Sandi's pictures.

    Classic scummbag move. Let the followers do the despicable work so no one can point fingers at him.
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2016
     Sorry but not once did he post any links to Sandi's porn videos in his twitter feed. Not a single link.
    Not to her video now, yet her picture with a porn website on it that i just blurred out because rules against pornography...

     

    Also with the hashtag people were sending her support just because why not...

    Also he did before on his twitter feed direct links one uploaded version of the porn video, that is a fact.
  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    edited August 2016
    MaxBacon said:
    OH Wow... I did open DS's feed out of morbid curiosity, most of his recent pictures are of Sandi Gardiner... Trolling the hashtag people were sending her messages.

    And posts and picture of Her watermarked with a link to a Porn Website... Classy Move.
     Sorry but not once did he post any links to Sandi's porn videos in his twitter feed. Not a single link.
    He said "picture of her watermarked with a link to a porn website", which is a clever way to imply that Derek is linking to her stuff, without actually saying it (because its untrue).

    He's referring to a public picture of Sandi Gardner with something like www.*******.com printed on it that Derek posted to his twitter a week ago. Though a douche thing to do, its not targeted harassment.

    At the same time, why is there not more outrage at the Derek Smart subreddit? If anyone feels that Derek Smart's twitter mentions constitute targeted harassment (it doesn't), for sure you think the subreddit against DS is wrose, no?

    Everyone needs to be consistent about their online harassment outrage. Online harassment needs to stop, on both sides.
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,317
    MaxBacon said:
    OH Wow... I did open DS's feed out of morbid curiosity, most of his recent pictures are of Sandi Gardiner... Trolling the hashtag people were sending her messages.

    And posts and picture of Her watermarked with a link to a Porn Website... Classy Move.
     Sorry but not once did he post any links to Sandi's porn videos in his twitter feed. Not a single link.
    He only gave anyone the name of a porn hub and the EXACT search terms to search for specific videos.
    Technically he may not have posted an URL link, but anyone who is not a potted plant was able to access the videos. Which someone has conventiently uploaded to the porn hub before.

    BTW none of the videos were porn.

    But that has never stopped TheSmarty and his SA cronies from claiming that its porn.

    And accuse her of having been an escort - as a little cherry on top. Which seems to have been too much even for Legal Beagle - that poor creature - which resulted in Ole Smarty modifying that post.


    Have fun
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    doodphace said:

    He's referring to a public picture of Sandi Gardner with something like www.*******.com printed on it that Derek posted to his twitter a week ago. 
    Something like www?! It's linking to a porn website!
  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    MaxBacon said:
    doodphace said:

    He's referring to a public picture of Sandi Gardner with something like www.*******.com printed on it that Derek posted to his twitter a week ago. 
    Something like www?! It's linking to a porn website!
    I don't think you understand what the term "linking to" means.
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,317
    doodphace said:

    At the same time, why is there not more outrage at the Derek Smart subreddit?
    Because its an archive subreddit of things that have been posted by DreDre.

    The only outrage possible from an archive subreddit would be about the things that are being archived.

    In my personal opinion its a highly entertaining archive subreddit, because it shows how often some people contradict themselves. And how often predictions (especially based on so-called "insider sources") were wrong (about 95 %). The other 5%  its more a "a broken clock is right two times a day" situation or him having said two different things 180 degrees apart so one of them HAD to be right.


    Have fun
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    doodphace said:
    MaxBacon said:
    OH Wow... I did open DS's feed out of morbid curiosity, most of his recent pictures are of Sandi Gardiner... Trolling the hashtag people were sending her messages.

    And posts and picture of Her watermarked with a link to a Porn Website... Classy Move.
     Sorry but not once did he post any links to Sandi's porn videos in his twitter feed. Not a single link.
    He said "picture of her watermarked with a link to a porn website", which is a clever way to imply that Derek is linking to her stuff, without actually saying it (because its untrue).

    He's referring to a public picture of Sandi Gardner with something like www.*******.com printed on it that Derek posted to his twitter a week ago. Though a douche thing to do, its not targeted harassment.

    At the same time, why is there not more outrage at the Derek Smart subreddit? If anyone feels that Derek Smart's twitter mentions constitute targeted harassment (it doesn't), for sure you think the subreddit against DS is wrose, no?

    Everyone needs to be consistent about their online harassment outrage. Online harassment needs to stop, on both sides.
    Please, give us a break.

    It is textbook targeted harassment. A legitimate one.

    He fixates on someone, posts public pictures and lets his followers shred his target to pieces by editing said pictures with all sorts of stuff.

    The guy has crossed every line and boundary.
  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    Erillion said:
    MaxBacon said:
    OH Wow... I did open DS's feed out of morbid curiosity, most of his recent pictures are of Sandi Gardiner... Trolling the hashtag people were sending her messages.

    And posts and picture of Her watermarked with a link to a Porn Website... Classy Move.
     Sorry but not once did he post any links to Sandi's porn videos in his twitter feed. Not a single link.
    He only gave anyone the name of a porn hub and the EXACT search terms to search for specific videos.
    Technically he may not have posted an URL link, but anyone who is not a potted plant was able to access the videos. Which someone has conventiently uploaded to the porn hub before.

    BTW none of the videos were porn.

    But that has never stopped TheSmarty and his SA cronies from claiming that its porn.

    And accuse her of having been an escort - as a little cherry on top. Which seems to have been too much even for Legal Beagle - that poor creature - which resulted in Ole Smarty modifying that post.


    Have fun
    Lets for a second say that everything you wrote is 100% accurate with zero exaggeration, none of that is targeted harassment.

    Are you as equally outraged at the "attack Derek Smart" subreddit?
  • ExcessionExcession Member RarePosts: 709
    edited August 2016
    Erillion said:

    BTW none of the videos were porn.


    MaxBacon said:
    Something like www?! It's linking to a porn website!
    It say's [mod edit], no www at all, and according to Erillion, it is not porn.

    Post edited by Vaross on

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  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2016
    [mod edit]

    Also i think you got it wrong he wasn't talking about this website lol...


    doodphace said:
    I don't think you understand what the term "linking to" means.
    Oh seriously? Do you have to go this low to try to make a flawed point? He posted and image with one LINK that is one of a PORN website. Clicking on the image does not takes you to the porn website but writing it on your browser address does. Period.

    It is also factual he DID before post direct links on his twitter feed to the porn video.
    Post edited by Vaross on
  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    Shodanas said:
    doodphace said:
    MaxBacon said:
    OH Wow... I did open DS's feed out of morbid curiosity, most of his recent pictures are of Sandi Gardiner... Trolling the hashtag people were sending her messages.

    And posts and picture of Her watermarked with a link to a Porn Website... Classy Move.
     Sorry but not once did he post any links to Sandi's porn videos in his twitter feed. Not a single link.
    He said "picture of her watermarked with a link to a porn website", which is a clever way to imply that Derek is linking to her stuff, without actually saying it (because its untrue).

    He's referring to a public picture of Sandi Gardner with something like www.*******.com printed on it that Derek posted to his twitter a week ago. Though a douche thing to do, its not targeted harassment.

    At the same time, why is there not more outrage at the Derek Smart subreddit? If anyone feels that Derek Smart's twitter mentions constitute targeted harassment (it doesn't), for sure you think the subreddit against DS is wrose, no?

    Everyone needs to be consistent about their online harassment outrage. Online harassment needs to stop, on both sides.
    Please, give us a break.

    It is textbook targeted harassment. A legitimate one.

    He fixates on someone, posts public pictures and lets his followers shred his target to pieces by editing said pictures with all sorts of stuff.

    The guy has crossed every line and boundary.
    I am not saying that what he has done hasn't been highly douchy. I am saying that what he has done, is not targeted harassment. The stuff that freaks did to Leslie Jones on twitter, is targeted harassment.

    I will ask again, since everyone keeps dodging it...are you as equally outraged by the "attack Derek Smart subreddit?
  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    Erillion said:
    doodphace said:

    At the same time, why is there not more outrage at the Derek Smart subreddit?
    Because its an archive subreddit of things that have been posted by DreDre.

    The only outrage possible from an archive subreddit would be about the things that are being archived.

    In my personal opinion its a highly entertaining archive subreddit, because it shows how often some people contradict themselves. And how often predictions (especially based on so-called "insider sources") were wrong (about 95 %). The other 5%  its more a "a broken clock is right two times a day" situation or him having said two different things 180 degrees apart so one of them HAD to be right.


    Have fun

    I am talking about the Derek Smart attack subreddit....I have no idea who DreDre is, nor is the Derek Smart sub anything as you describe this DreDre sub to be.
  • ExcessionExcession Member RarePosts: 709
    edited August 2016
    MaxBacon said:
    Excession said:
    It say's [mod edit] no www at all, and according to Erillion, it is not porn.

    [mod edit]

    Also i think you got it wrong he wasn't talking about this website lol...

    Sandi (allegedly) did a tickle porn video, which according to Erillion is not porn, which part of that did I get wrong?

    [mod edit]
    Post edited by Vaross on

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  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    MaxBacon said:


    doodphace said:
    I don't think you understand what the term "linking to" means.
    Oh seriously? Do you have to go this low to try to make a flawed point? He posted and image with one LINK that is one of a PORN website. Clicking on the image does not takes you to the porn website but writing it on your browser address does. Period.

    It is also factual he DID before post direct links on his twitter feed to the porn video.
    I am saying that having a website URL printed on a picture, is not "linking to" Sandi's video, no more, no less....

    Had I realized that this is what the discussion would devolve into once I pointed out that harassment is happening and needs to stop on both sides, I would have never chimed in.

    Some food for thought before I bow out of this toxicity.....look at the extent many in this thread alone are going at Derek Smart.....do you honestly think he's not receiving the same amount, if not more so, of actual targeted harassment as Sandi was?

    This needs to stop, internet wide....
  • TealaTeala Member RarePosts: 7,627
    Why is MMORPG.com even allowing for this thread to become a place for Derek Smart and his thugs to continue to attack Sandi?  Can we please have a mod clean it up or better yet lock it because certain individuals with a shameful agenda are abusing this thread.
  • ExcessionExcession Member RarePosts: 709
    Teala said:
    Why is MMORPG.com even allowing for this thread to become a place for Derek Smart and his thugs to continue to attack Sandi?  Can we please have a mod clean it up or better yet lock it because certain individuals with a shameful agenda are abusing this thread.
    I seem to have missed all these attacks against Sandi made by thugs in this thread, care to quote some?

    A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.

  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    doodphace said:
    I am saying that having a website URL printed on a picture, is not "linking to" Sandi's video, no more, no less....

    This needs to stop, internet wide....
    Independent of the terminology you want to use, he put a porn site on her picture, that is what saying, period.

    And yes, this ridiculous situation needs to stop, extremist behaviors are not acceptable! DS by posting pictures like that one and trolling the tags where people were supporting SG is doing nothing but willingly making it worse!
  • ExplosiveBoltsExplosiveBolts Member UncommonPosts: 22
    SBFord said:
    This just infuriates me. People can claim all day long that this has nothing to do with gender but that is categorically untrue. It has everything to do with the fact that she's a female. Stir in a helping of being a visible personality, Chris Roberts' wife and a member of the Star Citizen team and it's like the perfect storm for haters.

    Ugh. I hope they figure out who it is and sue the ever-living crap out of them.
    Ugh, so problematic. Yes, it's obviously because she's a woman and not because SC is a shitstorm of a game. I also find it problematic how you automatically assume it's because she's a woman, isn't that... I don't know, sexist?

    And you can't just sue people for online harassment, are you that out of touch with reality?
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Teala said:
    Why is MMORPG.com even allowing for this thread to become a place for Derek Smart and his thugs to continue to attack Sandi?  Can we please have a mod clean it up or better yet lock it because certain individuals with a shameful agenda are abusing this thread.
    The problem is that mr. DS technically isn't attacking anyone directly. He is conniving enough to lay the ground for his followers to do the deed.
  • doodphacedoodphace Member UncommonPosts: 1,858
    MaxBacon said:
    doodphace said:
    I am saying that having a website URL printed on a picture, is not "linking to" Sandi's video, no more, no less....

    This needs to stop, internet wide....
    Independent of the terminology you want to use, he put a porn site on her picture, that is what saying, period.

    And yes, this ridiculous situation needs to stop, extremist behaviors are not acceptable! DS by posting pictures like that one and trolling the tags where people were supporting SG is doing nothing but willingly making it worse!
    Independent of the new point you want to now make, the comment of mine was responding to someone who implied that the picture in question linked to Sandi's vodeo.....it did not.....if you want to quote me, at least stick to the message of the quote, don't all of  a sudden try to imply that I'm arguing "writing a URL doesn't link to it"....geez..

    Now, though I am not surprised, I am saddened by the fact that you removed the part where I point out that DS is probably being harassed just as much, and that harassment in general needs to end.


    I am quite shocked that you support online harassment, so long as they are harassing who you want harassed....
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    doodphace said:
    Now, though I am not surprised, I am saddened by the fact that you removed the part where I point out that DS is probably being harassed just as much, and that harassment in general needs to end.
    "And yes, this ridiculous situation needs to stop, extremist behaviors are not acceptable" Extremist behavior comes from both sides.

    I am quite shocked of your reading skills. English is not my mother language but still.
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    doodphace said:
    MaxBacon said:


    doodphace said:
    I don't think you understand what the term "linking to" means.
    Oh seriously? Do you have to go this low to try to make a flawed point? He posted and image with one LINK that is one of a PORN website. Clicking on the image does not takes you to the porn website but writing it on your browser address does. Period.

    It is also factual he DID before post direct links on his twitter feed to the porn video.

    Had I realized that this is what the discussion would devolve into once I pointed out that harassment is happening and needs to stop on both sides, I would have never chimed in.

    Some food for thought before I bow out of this toxicity.....look at the extent many in this thread alone are going at Derek Smart.....do you honestly think he's not receiving the same amount, if not more so, of actual targeted harassment as Sandi was?

    This needs to stop, internet wide....
    Yea, keep equating the abuser with the victim by putting them on even ground so that the former is absolved.

    It's the oldest trick in the book.

    You DS followers are hilarious.
  • Axllow18Axllow18 Member UncommonPosts: 400
    Hey where was the guy claiming this is all so CIG can make an excuse to not show up for Gamescom?

    I only ask because it appears Chris forgot to tell CIG they aren't going.


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