if you want people to respect you more then just say you dont agree with me. Dont pull that half ass 'you need to explore all 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 planets before you know for sure. its very obvious your just being intentionally disruptive with replies like that.
You dont need to play a video game to get a very good understanding of what the experience is like, peroid
I think you have had that VR thing hanging off your mug for so long your face has become stretched downward and it's cutting off the circulation to your brain somewhat. Kind of like Ash whe he chose the wrong book in The Army of Darkness. Why the long face? You're seriously sitting in here ripping games you ain't even played dude?
people here are trying to suggest that the only way to know that this
and this:
are in fact different. is to play both of them.
meaning all reviews, all youtube videos of all games, all news shows, all game articles are all useless becauase you have no way of knowing without playing them. really?
horeshit
That leaked video before launch sold me . I wasn't Into the hype before that. I'm just waiting for the PC issues to get sorted before grabbing it and for my body to adjust to this gosh darn topomax for my migraine headaches. Focus and concentration is a bitch at the moment. I want to enjoy it fully.
missed my point.
zombies running around in a 2d enviroment killing them vs a 3d space game.
one CAN tell the difference between those two games without actually playing both of them. The examples where fairly random
Same can be said about VR I guess. You can wear a 4-600$ monstrosity on your face for the sole purpose of looking around your environment. It's like the snake oil of our generation. Lol
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
watching a video of game play gives you a very good understanding of what the experience is like. If that was not true articles would not be written nor videos created in order to inform the players what they might expect. Advertising would also not work, this site would likely not have a single article written on a game, you tubers would not have videos either.
One can learn mostly what the experience is like of sticking a fork in ones eye, getting hit in the face with a rock by watching a video becuase one has enough personal experience to fill in the missing data points. Just lke if you you are shown a video of a person playing in 1st person mode yo have a general idea that the game is in 1st person and that in that area of the game (its perspective) its very likely to be like other 1st person games if the video does not give you any visual clue otherwise.
no its far from ridiculous
this desperate need to hold on to these meme is pure insanity
you and friends are suggesting that even if you see a game filled with violence you cant be sure it actually has violence until you play it? that is silly
Watch a video of some of the old Need For Speed games. They look great. Then play them, IMHO they play terrible. Driving physics are non existent. A stream will not be able relay this information, the only sense is visual.
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yes..it absolutly totally can and does.
if your not watching a dev controlled promo video that is EXACTLY what happens because the lets player says 'oh wow this is reallly off'
its like how you figured out not to put your hand on a burning stove. you didnt have to do it to learn not to do it
Your taking someone else's opinion about it and that's fine and dandy, nothing wrong with that if you trust the opinion.
Someones opinion might be fine for certain types of games. IMHO games and/or simulations like Elite Dangerous of this topic, streams do them no justice what so ever. The big draw for me personally is how the game "feels" Does it give me a sense of mass and movement, of inertia... its all about physics and the developers capability of being able to trick "my" brain. A streamer can show me game play and praise it till the cows come home. All that will do is give me an idea as to whether or not I'm willing to try it. It gives me zero sense of what it is actually like and to TBH with Elite Dangerous I'm actually disappointed with those aspects. To be fair it is a very difficult thing to achieve.
one can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
its it 100% accurate? no but often very close. more over, I dont need to play NMS to know that when you land on a planet you can not crash. I have enough gaming experience to know I would not like that.
you can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
I can agree with that.
You can get a good enough idea to make a purchasing decision, but it won't necessarily always be the right one.
right.
and if you know enough about a game and its features and you have enough experience with games and if said game appears to have known features that you know you dont like becuase you have experienced them before or you can imagine you would not like them because you have gamed enough and you see things that are clear indicators of patterns you have seen before and if the game doesnt have a feature that you think really is intresting compared to others then you can call it shit without having played it. there is a slim chance you might be wrong and often this chance is about as high as aliens coming to visit but yes the chance does exist
There is one thing I came to terms with a long time ago.
Just because I believe something is shit doesn't mean it is. It might be the greatest thing since sliced bread for some people and that is perfectly ok.
IMHO Watching streaming video's is like watching paint dry. I might give me an overview but it tells me nothing of how the game feels. Does the combat feel responsive? Is the game immersive? because a gameplay video sure as fuck isn't.
Same as your sex and fork in the eye analogy... completely ludicrous.
watching a video of game play gives you a very good understanding of what the experience is like. If that was not true articles would not be written nor videos created in order to inform the players what they might expect. Advertising would also not work, this site would likely not have a single article written on a game, you tubers would not have videos either.
One can learn mostly what the experience is like of sticking a fork in ones eye, getting hit in the face with a rock by watching a video becuase one has enough personal experience to fill in the missing data points. Just lke if you you are shown a video of a person playing in 1st person mode yo have a general idea that the game is in 1st person and that in that area of the game (its perspective) its very likely to be like other 1st person games if the video does not give you any visual clue otherwise.
no its far from ridiculous
this desperate need to hold on to these meme is pure insanity
you and friends are suggesting that even if you see a game filled with violence you cant be sure it actually has violence until you play it? that is silly
Watch a video of some of the old Need For Speed games. They look great. Then play them, IMHO they play terrible. Driving physics are non existent. A stream will not be able relay this information, the only sense is visual.
...
yes..it absolutly totally can and does.
if your not watching a dev controlled promo video that is EXACTLY what happens because the lets player says 'oh wow this is reallly off'
its like how you figured out not to put your hand on a burning stove. you didnt have to do it to learn not to do it
Your taking someone else's opinion about it and that's fine and dandy, nothing wrong with that if you trust the opinion.
Someones opinion might be fine for certain types of games. IMHO games and/or simulations like Elite Dangerous of this topic, streams do them no justice what so ever. The big draw for me personally is how the game "feels" Does it give me a sense of mass and movement, of inertia... its all about physics and the developers capability of being able to trick "my" brain. A streamer can show me game play and praise it till the cows come home. All that will do is give me an idea as to whether or not I'm willing to try it. It gives me zero sense of what it is actually like and to TBH with Elite Dangerous I'm actually disappointed with those aspects. To be fair it is a very difficult thing to achieve.
one can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
its it 100% accurate? no but often very close. more over, I dont need to play NMS to know that when you land on a planet you can not crash. I have enough gaming experience to know I would not like that.
you can get a very good idea of how the game play experience is going to be like by watching a youtube video.
I can agree with that.
You can get a good enough idea to make a purchasing decision, but it won't necessarily always be the right one.
right.
and if you know enough about a game and its features and you have enough experience with games and if said game appears to have known features that you know you dont like becuase you have experienced them before or you can imagine you would not like them because you have gamed enough and you see things that are clear indicators of patterns you have seen before and if the game doesnt have a feature that you think really is intresting compared to others then you can call it shit without having played it. there is a slim chance you might be wrong and often this chance is about as high as aliens coming to visit but yes the chance does exist
There is one thing I came to terms with a long time ago.
Just because I believe something is shit doesn't mean it is. It might be the greatest thing since sliced bread for some people and that is perfectly ok.
Otherwise I agree.
maybe the difference is experience level. I have been playing for so long and I played both consoles, AAA titles and indies and a life time of experience I can smell shit better than most perhaps. at least when I say 'shit' I mean things I know I absolutely would not like at all. I have a pretty good radar for that.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
SEANMCAD then why on God's green Earth are you in the NMS section constantly having the same argument and regurgitating the same responses. Honestly curious...
So how about those pg planetary landings without load screens.
The planetary landings without load screens that have been the most exciting by a country mile so far, have been my experience with the Kerbal Space Program.
So how about those pg planetary landings without load screens.
The planetary landings without load screens that have been the most exciting by a country mile so far, have been my experience with the Kerbal Space Program.
KSP is a pretty special game
Makes those moon landings back in the Apollo days all the more impressive.
Its a special game that makes you think of things like that.
Not at all. You have to remember that Elite is going for a more "real" approach. They also simulate things correctly, fissures, mountains, basins, meteor impacts, volcanism and so on. It's much easier when you're just throwing things together ignoring the laws of the universe, if you're trying to abide by those laws to add scientific realism to your game then things become much harder.
Not at all. You have to remember that Elite is going for a more "real" approach. They also simulate things correctly, fissures, mountains, basins, meteor impacts, volcanism and so on. It's much easier when you're just throwing things together ignoring the laws of the universe, if you're trying to abide by those laws to add scientific realism to your game then things become much harder.
what is nice about building a framework on realism is that its more transferable to other projects.
Example: I have thought about creating a game and I have decided that if I ever do the elements found in the world would come from the periodic table and reactions between materials (what you can make) would be based on the reality. No I would not have all chemical compounds but each new item I introduced to the engine would be based on reality.
This way, cowboy game, medieval sandbox, sci fi, doesnt matter the game, the formula for making steel will be the same.
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Just because I believe something is shit doesn't mean it is. It might be the greatest thing since sliced bread for some people and that is perfectly ok.
Otherwise I agree.
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Its a special game that makes you think of things like that.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
It's much easier when you're just throwing things together ignoring the laws of the universe, if you're trying to abide by those laws to add scientific realism to your game then things become much harder.
Example: I have thought about creating a game and I have decided that if I ever do the elements found in the world would come from the periodic table and reactions between materials (what you can make) would be based on the reality. No I would not have all chemical compounds but each new item I introduced to the engine would be based on reality.
This way, cowboy game, medieval sandbox, sci fi, doesnt matter the game, the formula for making steel will be the same.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me