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The Future's Bright! There's a New World!

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited October 2016 in News & Features Discussion

imageThe Future's Bright! There's a New World!

Amazon Game Studios have finally revealed their hand and the trio of games they revealed last week didn’t go unnoticed. While I think it’s fair to say the fanfare surrounding the reveal wasn’t rapturous (people don’t yet associate Amazon gaming with, well, gaming) there was certainly a smattering of interest surrounding all three titles, if for nothing more than the emphasis on Twitch integration.

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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    INB4 somebody says "Not playing it because of non-consensual PVP" instead of avoiding the thread. XD
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

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  • DarLorkarDarLorkar Member UncommonPosts: 1,082
    INB4 somebody says "Not playing it because of non-consensual PVP" instead of avoiding the thread. XD
    So if people think different they should just shut up and go away... got it:)
  • LokeroLokero Member RarePosts: 1,514
    edited October 2016
    "There’s relatively little concrete information in the marketing blurb as to what Twitch integration will really offer, but the prospect of an outside source affecting the game-world, as a puppet master, could certainly be interesting."

    If this is the kind of thing that people find interesting in games nowadays, then I guess I've been left behind.

    I have absolute zero interest in Twitch, and I certainly wouldn't want it having a driving impact on any games I was playing.

    If Amazon tries to shove Twitch down players throats, it will just be a reason for me to pass their games by.
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    edited October 2016
    Well lets see:
    The supernatural is real. So that will allow for ghosts, they mentioned nature spirits and, I am sure, Lovecraft inspired demons. As someone in another thread said: Solomon Kane. (Yes I like the film). We could also be talking American Gods (Neil Gaiman) and even the back story to Sleepy Hollow.

    Colonial America. In the 17th century. So lots of European powers at play and the varied history they bring to multiplicity of "peoples" who had settled there earlier; each with their cultures, values and mythologies. 

    An evolving world. Maybe it will expand into the north - The Last of the Mohican's - or down to the south - Treasure Island. Which would enrich things further. And in the far north: ice.

    The players are the content - they build villages ... Pretty straightforward but a rarely seen feature.

    So the the big question for me: will it be PvP everywhere? I doubt it simply because the concept - as a game - rarely works. Unless they are aiming for something like Darkfall on a grand scale. Its PvP everywhere but if you are deep inside a "country" then you would be expected to be protected by the local guards etc. Nice in theory but.

    Pretty sure Twitch won't be shoved down peoples throats though.

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  • rawfoxrawfox Member UncommonPosts: 788
    Im very interested, but me fears its RNG again.
    As soon as i read "procchance" or "regrade chance" or something, its off my list.
    Im the guy with the solid work.
    Going by % chances is against all my values.
  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    I would think a game built around Twitch would have a heavy PvP component.  Are people going to watch others simply questing and crafting?  
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    My character's name will be Ponce and I'l be heading down to Florida to look for... nothing in particular... never mind.
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  • LokeroLokero Member RarePosts: 1,514
    gervaise1 said:
    Well lets see:
    The supernatural is real. So that will allow for ghosts, they mentioned nature spirits and, I am sure, Lovecraft inspired demons. As someone in another thread said: Solomon Kane. (Yes I like the film). We could also be talking American Gods (Neil Gaiman) and even the back story to Sleepy Hollow.

    Colonial America. In the 17th century. So lots of European powers at play and the varied history they bring to multiplicity of "peoples" who had settled there earlier; each with their cultures, values and mythologies. As someone in another thread said Solomon Kane. We could also be talking American Gods (Neil Gaiman) and even the back story to Sleepy Hollow. Lots of possible material.

    An evolving world. Maybe it will expand into the north - The Last of the Mohican's - or down to the south - Treasure Island. Which would enrich things further. And in the far north: ice.

    The players are the content - they build villages ... Pretty straightforward but a rarely seen feature.

    So the the big question for me: will it be PvP everywhere? I doubt it simply because the concept - as a game - rarely works. Unless they are aiming for something like Darkfall on a grand scale. Its PvP everywhere but if you are deep inside a "country" then you would be expected to be protected by the local guards etc. Nice in theory but.

    Pretty sure Twitch won't be shoved down peoples throats though.

    The setting is definitely very open-ended, particularly with the supernatural aspects of the native cultures.
    I guess it will really come down to how big the world is and how well they flesh all of that stuff out, though.

    I kind of expect a full-on PvP war out of it.  I mean, they could easily avoid it, but I'm guessing PvP everywhere, with the exception of a couple newbie/tutorial areas/capitols.  I would assume faction capitols would be pretty well protected, if not safe areas.

    The whole premise of the era is just built for an all-inclusive world factions war.  Hand the players a new world to colonize/control and let them fight to control its resources.
    Generally, when they talk about letting players control their own destinies and such, PvP is pretty open.

    However, from the intro line:
    "Band together to reclaim monster-haunted wilds and build thriving civilizations, or strike out on your own, surviving in the face of supernatural terrors and murderous player bandits."

    That's pretty ambiguous.  I mean, incredibly ambiguous.  You could take that as meaning there are separate PvE and PvP areas, or simply as them trying to state you are safer in groups.
  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    My characters name will be Griefington McGanksworth.
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited October 2016
    Iselin said:
    My character's name will be Ponce and I'l be heading down to Florida to look for... nothing in particular... never mind.
    As long as you always remember where you came from....  León.

    You're right, I thought I'd feel super funny after writing that..  Instead, I just feel super nerdy.

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  • SamhaelSamhael Member RarePosts: 1,534
    I'm not sure Amazon thinks I'd like to *watch* games more than play them. The only time I would be interested in Twitch was for a new game reveal or the like. Otherwise, I'm not their demographic.
  • jbladderjbladder Member UncommonPosts: 36



    Iselin said:

    My character's name will be Ponce and I'l be heading down to Florida to look for... nothing in particular... never mind.


    As long as you always remember where you came from....  León.

    You're right, I thought I'd feel super funny after writing that..  Instead, I just feel super nerdy.



    What is nerdy about knowing details of the history of the world you live on and were born into?

    Be nice if people could stop acting like knowledge is lame and to be avoided. World is swirling the bowl like never before in our history, please remember that history and teach it to others.

    This game looks meh...I will wait for a friend to start playing it then check it out maybe.
  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    rawfox said:
    Im very interested, but me fears its RNG again.
    As soon as i read "procchance" or "regrade chance" or something, its off my list.
    Im the guy with the solid work.
    Going by % chances is against all my values.

    I can understand that.  I know a lot of players who are fearful and can't handle that situation.
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  • SeorynSeoryn Member UncommonPosts: 42
    There's a repeat theme of "they want me to watch twitch!" in response to this, in more than one place online. I find that... weird? They're games, with twitch integrated into them, so you can a: stream to other viewers or b: be on someone's stream. The idea seems to be catering more towards, in a way, Gladiatorial combat from Roman times. Amazon wants you to play their games for others to watch--you, too, can watch, to learn how others play and better your strat, or be seen by (ideally for Amazon) hundreds of viewers, even catering to the viewers in Breakaway and Crucible--not sure about New World. Amazon wants you to be the entertainers, and the entertainers will bring viewers and possibly also be viewers, and they want that to work in a way that viewers feel they're a part of the game world also.
  • TeccaTecca Member UncommonPosts: 45

    Samhael said:

    I'm not sure Amazon thinks I'd like to *watch* games more than play them. The only time I would be interested in Twitch was for a new game reveal or the like. Otherwise, I'm not their demographic.



    People need to be playing the game so that other people can watch. Most, if not all, of the popular games that people watch on Twitch are played by far more people than watched.

    I'm the same way though, I feel I wouldn't be in that audience either (I rarely watch gaming videos unless it's a review or reveal). But I have a feeling they're going for more than just watchability; rather, those that enjoy watching games will have more tools for interaction and camera mobility, while those in-game will be able to be better streamers due to built-in game mechanics that help them stream — if they so choose to.

    I'd wait and see what they come up with over time. Even though I don't care for Twitch whatsoever, I have a feeling they'll have some nice tricks up their sleeves for those that are of the same mindset.
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    Only New world is actually representing something interesting, the others seem more hype games meant for streamers.
  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480

    MaxBacon said:

    Only New world is actually representing something interesting, the others seem more hype games meant for streamers.



    It's no different from any other pronounced mmo.




  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,556
    I still think CU or Pantheon will be the next big MMO.

    If their game development is anything similar to the way they handled their reveal stream I don't really have much faith that New World will be very deep and will probably very closely mirror H1Z1.

    Also not sure if anyone noticed but in their stream when they first announced New World they didn't actually say MMO they said "Sandbox game".
  • ArchlyteArchlyte Member RarePosts: 1,405

    BruceYee said:

    I still think CU or Pantheon will be the next big MMO.



    If their game development is anything similar to the way they handled their reveal stream I don't really have much faith that New World will be very deep and will probably very closely mirror H1Z1.



    Also not sure if anyone noticed but in their stream when they first announced New World they didn't actually say MMO they said "Sandbox game".



    That is an important distinction, but it could also simply be marketing-speak. Conceivably they could have some sort of hybrid setup with small instance pop caps or co-op, but I would hope that mankind can actually pull off a sandbox MMO.
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  • WarzodWarzod Member RarePosts: 507
    Because games where people can constantly get ganked have been so universally successful and not niche at all.
  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    Maybe the Twitch integration includes having a "New World" channel on Twitch where people can log-in and view/spectate 24/7.
    "As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*" 

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  • ConfonduConfondu Member UncommonPosts: 24
    edited October 2016


    INB4 somebody says "Not playing it because of non-consensual PVP" instead of avoiding the thread. XD



    Let me help you out, given there is insuffient information about the game at the moment but non-consensual Twitch and/or non-consensual PvP=DOA in my book. Not interested in either. TYVM have a nice day.
  • FrammshammFrammshamm Member UncommonPosts: 322
    Defiance placed its emphasis on a gimmick show that had yet to prove itself. It didn't and both the show and the game took a shit. ( I actually liked both, but thats the reality of it ).

    In this case, instead of placing your emphasis on making a bad ass game, you instead choose to "innovate" (or shamelessly promote) by placing your emphasis on integration with a platform that might not even exist by the time your MMO is ready to be released.

    Sounds like stupid fucking planning to me.
  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,483

    Iselin said:

    My character's name will be Ponce and I'l be heading down to Florida to look for... nothing in particular... never mind.



    first thing I thought of was my character was going to be John Smith so I can find me a little Pocohauntas action
  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    MaxBacon said:
    Only New world is actually representing something interesting, the others seem more hype games meant for streamers.

    Don't kid yourself this games big talk is no different from all the other big talk games on the horizon. 




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