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I read this article and it made me interesting in trying out EVE again. I've tried it three times before over the years, but was bored out of my mind before I could finish the tutorial. I've heard they re-did the new player experience recently.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/04/21/eve-online-world-war-bee-mittani/
I'm not in a hurry to level fast and would probably solo for a few weeks before deciding to commit to the game and a corp. I don't want to join a corp and then just bail. Also, I want to find a group that might be a good fit for me.
I would be "casual" in the sense that I won't let EVE take over my life and become my central free-time activity. I'm pretty laid back and would be fine being one of the little people making a living mining or whatever and helping support a corp in pvp. I don't know if that's a valid play style or what.
Is what I've described a valid play style in EVE? Or do you need to join a corp asap to have fun?
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/04/21/eve-online-world-war-bee-mittani/
I'm not in a hurry to level fast and would probably solo for a few weeks before deciding to commit to the game and a corp. I don't want to join a corp and then just bail. Also, I want to find a group that might be a good fit for me.
I would be "casual" in the sense that I won't let EVE take over my life and become my central free-time activity. I'm pretty laid back and would be fine being one of the little people making a living mining or whatever and helping support a corp in pvp. I don't know if that's a valid play style or what.
Is what I've described a valid play style in EVE? Or do you need to join a corp asap to have fun?
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PD: As for leveling.... fast..... you remember that EvE uses an offline skill training queue, right? no matter how much you play or dont, skills advance at a pace only affected by your stats (plus implant mods and neural remaps).
Their effectiveness is based on a sliding scale, new characters can get 500,000 SPs from one, while extremely older characters like mine with 130M SPs only receive 150K per injector.
They are best used to train the first 4 levels of the lower tier skills, (which are all of the basics every pilot needs) or to specialize in a specific single activity.
Reason being these skills are cheap, ranging from just a few thousand to 250K or so at level 4 for the higher tier ones. As most level 5 skills can be quite expensive, I found it impractical to use injectors to train them.
Real example. I wanted to create an out of corp deep space hauling alt who could fly an Occator well.
I spent roughly 4B ISK on injectors plus had to do about 6 weeks training to perfect her skills. I spent ISK I had earned in game, but if you have deep pockets you could buy about 4 PLEX ($20 each, but cheaper in bundles) and trade them on the CCP sponsored web site to other players for their ISK.
Alternatively, I suspect I might have been able to purchase a character on the CCP sponsored character bazaar for about the same ISK and even had some additional skills trained on it.
For those with very, very deep pockets you can trade ISK for higher level characters with very functional abilities (max skills in PVP ship types) ranging from $20B to well over $100B ISK.
My guess is most trade either ISK they've earned in game or actual "play the bazaar" to obtain them rather than invest thousands of real world dollars.
At the end of the day I would say its best to start out the old fashioned way, train normally toward a specific role you will enjoy. (recommend mission running at first as the skills you train well transfer to PVP)
If you decide to stay, and get a good feel for everything (and start earning significant ISK in game) you can consider buying a few injectors to speed some of your training in certain areas along.
One important thing to note, other than selling PLEX (which are monthly game time cards) and skill extractors which players use to extract skills from characters they own CCP does not sell any of the above.
The filled skill injectors, ISK and characters you trade for all come from other players in the game, CCP doesn't magically create any of it and sell them directly in game.
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How many accounts do most people run? Like do you have a main and alts for various purposes?
I'd say most EVE players in null sec (where I reside) have multiple accounts in order to train specific skills more quickly.
Miners tend to have a lot of accounts, there's some real efficiencies in being able to fly multiple accounts, in my case I fly 6 pilots,one either provides boosts or mines if others do it, 4 mine all the time, and one hauls ore back for compression and storage unless again, someone else is doing it, then he mines as well
Ratters (PVE Combat) tend to stick with one or two accounts normally, you can do some very efficient ratting in a solo ship (larger ones which take a while to train) and nothing like Carrier ratting to ready burn things down quickly.
Were you to go down a PVE Mission running/ratting path, the skills you learned would transfer well to PVP. I'd recommend focusing your PVP training along the way on Destroyers. While not helpful in your PVE/ISK efforts, they are fairly quick to train and can be very useful in a PVP situation.
There's many flavors,from the basic models, to specialized hulls that are used to tackle (interdictors) via bubbles, to Command Destroyers which have a specialized jump module that pulls all ships, enemy and friendly with them 100 KMs in a direction of their choosing, great for pulling folks off of a station or into your kill zones.
Finally there's T3 Dessies, called Tactical Destroyers, and they have the ability to morp themselves like a "transformer" into multiple roles, including speed, damage or defense.
Check this EVE U link out for more info, but I think they offer a terrific range of playing options for newer players (and older love them as well) without having to focus on "Dreadnaughts" and Titans to have fun.
Speaking of which, much of the null sec combat I've been part of is with smaller hulls, rare is the day when we go out in Battleships or Capitols (does happen of course), but even when it does, always need for good tackle, scouts and other other small ship support roles such as target painters, ECM and what not which are pretty easy trains.
It should be pointed out, despite people saying EVE consumes your life, do realize that's entirely up to the player and what they chose to focus on.
Me, I go out for a few hours a night to mine, occasionally join uip for a home defense or roam.
I do have to eschew most of the large scale fleet engagements (except on weekends) as just like in raiding, it can kill, 4, 6 hours at a time, and I rarely have that.
Many activities for casual players to do, mining, mission running, exploration, trading, industry which can all be done is small chunks of time.
Becoming the leader of a major alliance and being the scourge of all free space? No, that does require a significant investment, and as soon as as I retire..... "Arrrgh! Dread Pirate Roberts will be in play"
One final advice, you don't play EVE for the "gameplay", its pretty droll at times, you play it to accomplish your greater goals, be it wealth acquisition (My personal favorite), having some fun fights, becoming a scion (or scourge) of industry etc.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
In most games, you are always "waiting" for something because the game is progression based - the content unlocks along your progression through the game.
This is not how EVE works though.
In EVE, everything is available to you from day 0. That does not mean everything is instant, for free or easy to get, just it is up to you how you can utilize and manages your assets and resources.
Imo, your biggest asset is knowledge, followed by reputation and to work on those two, all you need is an access to the game so do not wait and start a trial account.
Wish I had more spare time these days but PM with your ingame name and times you usually play and I will try to join you for at least couple evenings.
I played waaay back at launch for a few years before I stopped. I just came back a few weeks ago and wow, has it changed.
I am paying for this monthly and plan on going Free come November. But we will see if I can be casually content with the Alpha clones,..if not, and my interest holds,.I will remain subbed.