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HELP! I've had a very bad MMO year

Kamandi777Kamandi777 Member UncommonPosts: 223
Preface:  I have had a very bad MMO year.  It began with WoD.  I quit playing WoW for some time but some friends at work said they were rolling 20-29 twinks so I said wtf.  It was great, the xp-on and xp-off were still segregated and we were playing premades almost every night so I was having a blast. I even made a Garrison and a Shipyard and endured the humiliation of playing with toy boats just so I could have the heirloom rings. I even won the dread pirate ring.  

Then Legion.  The xp-on and xp-off got crammed together and my heirlooms became useless not to mentioned long-farm items like +8 rings of agility etc. were now useless.

So I tried playing a Vanilla wow server named Kronos.  I started playing WoW in April of 2006 so I remember the "good old days".  Well I thought I did.  They weren't good.  I forgot how broken Vanilla was--ask a druid or pally.  I forgot how long leveling took.  So I bought some gold and made two 19 twink hunters. I was in heaven.  And again this wasn't about facerolling noobs, we were fighting other twink guilds every day and bgs were popping every 2-3 minutes. The nthe devs at Kronos made a serious mistake.  In reaction to Nostralius being shut down, they split their population by opening a new server, known as K2.  This was followed by a month long massive DDOS attack.  Living in the US my pings were between 100-130ms but after the DDOS attacks began they were as high as 1500 and as low as 480.  They finally fixed the DDOS problem but by then almost everyone was playing on the new server K2. No more bg pops for my twinks on K1. 

Now for the the main point of my post.

Someone please recommend a mmo that has a fun world, pvp and little or NO GRIND.

I can't grind anymore.  NO more.  I can't make new toons on K2.  I tried but I can't do it.  

PLEASE HELP!

Please recommend a fun MMO with no grind, or at least a minimal grind.

tyvm
k

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    I am afraid not even a cookie can fix such disaster...
  • Kamandi777Kamandi777 Member UncommonPosts: 223
    I agree. Two boxes of GS mint cookies and im still fooked.
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    Could always try GW2. F2P. The expansion you gotta pay for, but you can level up to 80 (current cap) for free.
  • Kamandi777Kamandi777 Member UncommonPosts: 223
    Albatroes said:
    Could always try GW2. F2P. The expansion you gotta pay for, but you can level up to 80 (current cap) for free.
    Answers like this are proof America is in decline.  I have money.  It is the 80 level GRIND I want to avoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Hello?  Can you hear me in the back??
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Albatroes said:
    Could always try GW2. F2P. The expansion you gotta pay for, but you can level up to 80 (current cap) for free.
    Answers like this are proof America is in decline.  I have money.  It is the 80 level GRIND I want to avoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Hello?  Can you hear me in the back??
    huh. Ok.

    Well, his suggestion was a sound one. Guild Wars 2 is not a hard leveling game. As a matter of fact it's pretty easy. You asked for a game with little grind and he gave you one. Don't let the level number dissuade you. This is no Lineage 2.
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Sounds a lot like Karma. :p
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited October 2016
    "No grind" is very niche game design and only MMO I know of fitting that requirement is EVE Online...
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    It suggested GW2 because its not really a "grind" to level in the game. You can get to 80 by crafting/wvw/exploring/etc. If you have 'money' you can buy gems or whatever their shop currency is and convert it to gold which you can use to just buy all your materials for crafting on the auction house. Get you like 50~ or so doing all crafts I believe, finish up in wvw and be 80 in about a day or 2.
  • laxielaxie Member RarePosts: 1,122
    Have you considered a MOBA? Battlerite was very well received by people. It delivers a very similar experience to battleground PvP, with absolutely no grind.
  • EldurianEldurian Member EpicPosts: 2,736
    Someone please recommend a mmo that has a fun world, pvp and little or NO GRIND.

    I can't grind anymore.  NO more.  I can't make new toons on K2.  I tried but I can't do it.  

    PLEASE HELP!

    Please recommend a fun MMO with no grind, or at least a minimal grind.

    tyvm
    k

    As you can tell by my signature I have a strong interest in such an MMO as well. I've scoured the MMO market for such an MMO. They don't really exist.

    My advice is to wait for Star Citizen which will hopefully (but likely won't) release in 2017.

    Mortal Online also has a pretty low barrier to entry if you can suffer through the bugs and balance issues. If you want to enjoy that game at all you need to hook into a group fast. It's the least solo-friendly game I've ever played.

    Eve Online has no grind in the form of actually just doing crap to build stats. With limited playtime on a fresh character I've managed to remain 98.2% ISK efficient in PvP by hooking into a good newb friendly corp. 98.2% ISK efficient is a reflection of the fact I've lost about 80 million ISK in ships (Most of which were paid for by my corp) and taken part in the destruction of 4.5 billion ISK of ships.
  • Kamandi777Kamandi777 Member UncommonPosts: 223
    Thanks for the replies.
  • nerovergilnerovergil Member UncommonPosts: 680
    go play moba
  • nerovergilnerovergil Member UncommonPosts: 680
    or gw2
  • xyzercrimexyzercrime Member RarePosts: 878
    edited October 2016
    Torval said:
    MMO is grind. There isn't an MMO, including EVE, that doesn't have grind at some point. If you hate that then MMOs aren't for you. You might be able to do MMO-lites but every game with longevity in mind has grind.
    I second this.

    But do you know @Torval? Someone here maybe disagree with you without bothered to counter your argument and just use "LOL" button instead.



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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Torval said:
    MMO is grind. There isn't an MMO, including EVE, that doesn't have grind at some point. If you hate that then MMOs aren't for you. You might be able to do MMO-lites but every game with longevity in mind has grind.
    I second this.

    But do you know @Torval? Someone here maybe disagree with you without bothered to counter your argument and just use "LOL" button instead.
    Thank goodness for small favors. :p

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  • craftseekercraftseeker Member RarePosts: 1,740
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    MMO is grind. There isn't an MMO, including EVE, that doesn't have grind at some point. If you hate that then MMOs aren't for you. You might be able to do MMO-lites but every game with longevity in mind has grind.
    I second this.

    But do you know @Torval? Someone here maybe disagree with you without bothered to counter your argument and just use "LOL" button instead.
    Thank goodness for small favors. :p
    Strangely while I see two 'agrees' on @Torval s post I do not see a single 'LOL' and if I did wouldn't it be more likely to indicate amusement rather than disagreement?
  • xyzercrimexyzercrime Member RarePosts: 878
    edited October 2016
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    MMO is grind. There isn't an MMO, including EVE, that doesn't have grind at some point. If you hate that then MMOs aren't for you. You might be able to do MMO-lites but every game with longevity in mind has grind.
    I second this.

    But do you know @Torval? Someone here maybe disagree with you without bothered to counter your argument and just use "LOL" button instead.
    Thank goodness for small favors. :p
    Strangely while I see two 'agrees' on @Torval s post I do not see a single 'LOL' and if I did wouldn't it be more likely to indicate amusement rather than disagreement?
    Oh, the usual suspect was already "un-LOL-ed" Torval's after I wrote my previous post.



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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Nyctelios said:
    ESO requires little to no grind. I'm just following quests and already over level with still 3 entire maps to finish. It has active pvp, like Gw2. You can't do wrong with any... but I quit gw2 due the slow premium bs they shoved down my throat - so beware, besides WvW you can't do much on pve without spending money to avoid grinding (or being buried by cash boosts for gathering , moving speed and so on, taking away your experience by making everything you do slower and lamer because you are not buying them).
     Uhm, the game with "optional" subscription is ESO, not GW2. The grind part in GW2 is getting a legendary weapon.

    I do have a zillion of those boost I gotten in game but never bothered to use, the movement speed boost is meaningless since I either have a skill equipped for that or some traveler runes in my armor. I don't think there actually is a gathering booster but there is one for crafting, but the the time saved is pretty small (I tend to forget using them, the only time you need them is if you go for 500 to craft ascended gear.

    The only booster I tend to use is the birthday booster that last 24 hours playing, never bought any and still have loads of them.

    I do buy a character slot or something every third month but that is to support the game, not that I actually need it. If you want to play older living story though you either need to pay some money for them (the latest is free so I never had to do that) or exchange some gold for them but you don't really need that anyways.

    Neither GW2 nor ESO is pay2win but if you could call any premium it would be ESO.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    I would say ESO too, but it is going down the cash shop route, in no more than a year it might be P2W. But then the argument would be play it while it is still great.

    I don't think the OP can escape the grind, it may be best to leave MMOs for a while. I have had gaming breaks before. I take a month or two of gaming, get on with other things, you come back refreshed and eager to play.
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    MMO is grind. There isn't an MMO, including EVE, that doesn't have grind at some point. If you hate that then MMOs aren't for you. You might be able to do MMO-lites but every game with longevity in mind has grind.
    I second this.
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    I agree with Torval. 

    And when I read @Kmandi777 response to: 
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    Albatroes said:
    Could always try GW2. F2P. The expansion you gotta pay for, but you can level up to 80 (current cap) for free.
    Answers like this are proof America is in decline.  I have money.  It is the 80 level GRIND I want to avoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Hello?  Can you hear me in the back??
    *************************************************

    What I first thought was: go see a movie! (Given GW2's design) 

    Which suggests to me that the OP might be better trying something with a story to go through, puzzles to solve, missions to complete and so forth. ("Economy building" I decided would be grind.) 

    Based on this premise and replacing "multi-player" by "co-op" maybe look at games like: 

    Portal 2; Left 4 Dead; Dark Souls; GTA V; Divinity OS.

    You have to be careful with fps games since some have leveling e.g. Borderlands 2.) And most team management games e.g. FIFA maybe don't offer enough of the "multi-player" feel (lots of 1vs1).  
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    I've had a no MMO year. :anguished:

    More of the same, and MOBA's. Halp! 
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    DMKano said:
    grind means = repetiition is no longer fun, thats when you feel the grind. every MMO has a lot of repetition - and thats when players feel the grind as it stops being fun for them.
    I think of it more as an activity that has to be repeated in order to progress.
    The fun factor is subjective, but clearly if it isn't then its time to find a different game. :o
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited October 2016
    Look at what the OP has been playing, level locked, low level twinks where he does nothing but PVP all day.

    He says no grind, but that's just another word for profession, and its clear the OP wants none of that, not in levels or even gear, he wants everything static.

    Except as sidebar activity such as twinking, most MMOs aren't designed around a no progression model, especially more modern ones which don't often offer level locking.

    OP is going to have to play MOBAs, FPS shooters and the like to find the playing experience he is looking for, it no longer exists in the WOW format he is used to, not even in WOW.


    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

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  • Mors.MagneMors.Magne Member UncommonPosts: 1,549
    All MMOs have a grind - I can't think of a single exception.

    The trick is to find an MMO where the grind is enjoyable / worthwhile for you.

    Contrary to what some people have posted above, Eve Online has 3 grinds! -

    - the grind for ISK
    - the time grind to get the skills
    - the grind of socialising to be in a team (this is the biggest grind - you've got to be reliable on a regular basis)
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    DMKano said:
    forgot to mention a viable alternative - buy a fully geared end game account = no grind
    Reminds me of a story from years ago, when someone sold their SWG account that had the first Jedi on it ;)
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