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MMOman101MMOman101 Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
in Elder Scrolls Online
Is ESO better on a PC or console.  I am not a snob of one or the other.  I played skyrim on PC, and could tell many of the controls were based on a controller not a keyboard and mouse. 

Also if PC is the way to go, steam or no steam?  I have avoided steam MMO's for the most part. 

“It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.”

--John Ruskin







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  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 472
    I like PC because I can't live without add-ons.  This site should be renamed to Add-Ons dot com because no self respecting, premium, AAA MMORPG should be without add-ons!  Everybody seems to always miss what really makes a great MMORPG:   character creation and ADD-ONS!

    Sz  :)
  • MMOman101MMOman101 Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    Add-ons are not a deciding factor for me, as I won't be using them. 

    “It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.”

    --John Ruskin







  • ilovespoonsilovespoons Member UncommonPosts: 46
    edited December 2016
    Play on PC. Use a controller if you feel the need to one. Xbox / PS4 controller works fine on the PC. Better fps and graphics, easier to talk and trade, easier to do about anything and looks better. Being able to really text chat is a huge bonus alone. People do not pay attention in chat on console or voice for that matter. So if you plan on doing any end-game that's gonna be key.

    Played both, that's just my experience. 
  • MMOman101MMOman101 Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    Play on PC. Use a controller if you feel the need to one. Xbox / PS4 controller works fine on the PC. Better fps and graphics, easier to talk and trade, easier to do about anything and looks better. Being able to really text chat is a huge bonus alone. People do not pay attention in chat on console or voice for that matter. So if you plan on doing any end-game that's gonna be key.

    Played both, that's just my experience. 
    Any suggestions on steam v regular client install?

    “It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.”

    --John Ruskin







  • ilovespoonsilovespoons Member UncommonPosts: 46
    edited December 2016
    Not really a non bias opinion. I've had steam for 12 years, once ESO went to steam I jumped right on that. I've got about 300+ games on steam so I like to keep everything in one area.

    ESO runs fine on steam or without. Don't like using steam, you aren't missing out on anything if you don't use it. Pretty sure the steam just loads up the normal client, so if anything it's just another step you have to log into in order to play. Which some people may not like.
  • MMOman101MMOman101 Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    Does the gold edition have any value?  I see it comes with the 4 DLC packs.  It seems like if I purchase the game I would have a subscription and then I would get all of the DLC for free. 

    “It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.”

    --John Ruskin







  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    MMOman101 said:
     
    Any suggestions on steam v regular client install?
    Regular. Zenimax run their own servers, no need to have the  extra layer. The Steam release was probably done to reach some extra markets; possibly done to try and re-launch the game back when it had a mandatory sub. As Steam take a % - not sure whether all the Zenimax offers make it onto Steam.
  • ilovespoonsilovespoons Member UncommonPosts: 46
    edited December 2016
    Yeah I'd say get the Gold version if you can. You don't have to sub in order to play the DLC with the Gold version. That's all the latest DLC. Subing will give you some small bonus like a exp buff. Which I think is 5 or 10%. You'll also be able to use future DLC for free as long as you are subbed.

    Oh and you also get Crown Coins each month for being subbed. Which can be used to buy future DLC, pets, stuff like that.
  • MMOman101MMOman101 Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    ilovespoons said:
    Yeah I'd say get the Gold version if you can. You don't have to sub in order to play the DLC with the Gold version. That's all the latest DLC. Subing will give you some small bonus like a exp buff. Which I think is 5 or 10%. You'll also be able to use future DLC for free as long as you are subbed.
    So subbing does not unlock the DLC indefinitely like in SWTOR.  You only have access while you are subbed. 

    “It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.”

    --John Ruskin







  • ilovespoonsilovespoons Member UncommonPosts: 46
    DLC stays unlocked if you own it, by buying something like that Gold version, those 4 DLCs will always be unlocked subbed or not. Or by buying it in the crown shop. Subbing will keep it unlocked for what amount time you are subbed for.
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    edited December 2016
    MMOman101 said:
    Does the gold edition have any value?  I see it comes with the 4 DLC packs.  It seems like if I purchase the game I would have a subscription and then I would get all of the DLC for free. 
    Does the Gold Edition have value?
    • The sub is optional; so if you choose not to subscribe you won't have access to the content in the 4 DLCs. Going forward the Gold Edition will be the basic edition.
    Do you need to sub?
    •  No.
    Do you need to get the Gold Edition?
    • No - there are still copies of the previous editions available.
    If you get a non-Gold edition can you buy the 4 DLCs later?
    • Yes there is a combo pack that works out at about 50% off the cost of getting them individually.
    Is it cheaper to get the Gold pack?
    • The Gold pack is about the same cost as the earlier version + the normal "crown" cost of the 4 DLC combo pack. There are occasional 50% off the cost of buying crowns as well so it could be that earlier edition + 4 DLC pack works out cheaper. ESO is not an expensive game to buy though either way.
    Are there benefits to subscribing?
    • Some. You get some crowns each month; access to the DLC - there are 5 DLCs in total currently but  the one that doesn't come with the Gold edition is the smallest and least expensive; a (very) minor xp gain; a bottomless crafting bag. 
    At the end of the day ESO is not a game that "locks" stuff behind a sub or behind stuff that you have to buy in the cash shop; the ESO shop mostly contains costumes and mounts. And its a huge game. Even a non-Gold edition - still available last time I looked for under $20 on Amazon - is huge. So you can try it. Months of content and the (solo) main storyline is excellent in its own right.
    Post edited by gervaise1 on
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    PC or Console?

    Whatever you prefer. A deciding factor sometimes is population. ESO uses megaservers though - 6 in total one server for US one for EU for PC, XB1, PS4. As a result population isn't the key factor.
  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 472
    subbing gets you the unlimited, bottomless Crafting Bag which is awesome!!  and this bonus Crafting Bag works across your whole account.  if you are going to so much as cook soup or craft underwear or a knife, SUB and get that Crafting Bag!

    Sz  :)
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    In addition to addons on the PC/Mac only, it really comes down to your preference of text vs. voice chat: PC is all about text chat with optional voice (not so optional in Trials or PVP) through 3rd party programs like Discord, Teamspeak, etc., and console is all about voice all the time with awkward text chat; and graphics with unlimited FPS on the PC depending on your system or capped 30 FPS on the first generation PS4 and XB1... although I hear you can approach 60 FPS on the newer models.

    Also, from reading the ESO forums, I get the distinct impression that the console ESO communities are much younger than the PC/Mac one.
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • DarkswormDarksworm Member RarePosts: 1,081
    edited January 2017
    Play on PC. Use a controller if you feel the need to one. Xbox / PS4 controller works fine on the PC. Better fps and graphics, easier to talk and trade, easier to do about anything and looks better. Being able to really text chat is a huge bonus alone. People do not pay attention in chat on console or voice for that matter. So if you plan on doing any end-game that's gonna be key.

    Played both, that's just my experience. 
    You're assuming that the OP's PC can get better, more consistent performance at higher-than-console graphics settings.

    And for many people, that definitely isn't the case.

    You'll need a PC that costs 3x that of a console to play consistent (30+) frame rates at the same resolution (1080p) with better graphics than a console gives you.  Console graphics are higher than the "Medium" setting on PC/Mac.  If you play on a laptop, then you're going to need a dGPU, as well (and something that can dissipate heat decently...  MacBook Pros are not great for this game).

    The PC community is really not that huge.  Many people have commented that the console game feels more populated, and I do agree with them (as an owner of both).  It does take a bit more work to network and find great guilds on the console game (that's Bethesda's fault, for not implementing text chat for so long), but that's the primary barrier to entry there.

    My PS4 plays this game better than my $1,000 PC and $800 Laptop.  The idea of "go PC for 'better graphics'" needs explanation.  Just saying "better graphics and FPS" is incredibly misleading.

    Consoles offer some of the best Price:Performance on the market for gaming.  It's why so many people are foregoing PC Gaming for consoles, these days.  And since their specs are locked, you aren't in a perpetual upgrade treadmill, like with PCs (where an MMORPG expansion can potentially obsolete your setup).
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