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Next chapter?

xpsyncxpsync Member EpicPosts: 1,854
I know, I know, Morrowind isn't even out yet but since they stated a new chapter every year, which is a solid strategy to keep players interested with something to always look forward too i wonder what even next years would be?
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  • xpsyncxpsync Member EpicPosts: 1,854
    I dropped this as i was interested if anyone was thinking what I'm thinking. I didn't want to influence the topic so here is what I'm thinking.

    Next Year: Oblivion
    The year after that: Skyrim

    They are obviously capitalizing on the popularity of Morrowind, why not these ones too, specifically Skyrim due to it's popularity.

    They could also add Daggerfall or Arena possibly.

    After that ? This is supposed to be a yearly thing, it'll be interesting to find out what they come up with every year.

    My faith is my shield! - Turalyon 2022

    Your legend ends here and now! - (Battles Won Long Ago)

    Currently Playing; Dragonflight and SWG:L
  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    Fuck that just give me Elder Scrolls 6




  • RalsarRalsar Member UncommonPosts: 305
    I'm excited for  Morrowind, but moving forward I'd be more interested in them exploring areas of the world that haven't been sufficiently explored in other games.  I want to see the lore and setting of the Elder Scrolls IP continue to expand.  
  • KanethKaneth Member RarePosts: 2,286
    I could see them opening more of Skyrim up in the next chapter. We have the Windhelm and Riften areas. I'd like to see the rest of the Skyrim map opened up. I could also see Black Marsh being the next chapter as that area is very large as well.

    Depending on what they do with the DLC, the whole of the map could be finally opened within a couple of years. They might need to look into opening areas like Blackreach. Which would be really neat.
  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311
    DMKano said:
    Let me know when Cyrodiil gets some love.... and then we got something to talk about.

    Morrowind? I can play the real Morrowind, it is fantastic with the latest mods
    the gameplay is still trash compared to ESO IMO

    if nostalgia is what you are looking for then by all means....
  • Dagon13Dagon13 Member UncommonPosts: 566
    I wonder how many ESO players have actually played Morrowind.
  • Dagon13Dagon13 Member UncommonPosts: 566
    Ralsar said:
    I'm excited for  Morrowind, but moving forward I'd be more interested in them exploring areas of the world that haven't been sufficiently explored in other games.  I want to see the lore and setting of the Elder Scrolls IP continue to expand.  
    I think this would also be the safest development plan.  Nostalgic gamers are a lover scorned.
  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 472
    WoW brought me to the Warcraft line... I didn't play them, but played WoW.

    ESO brought me to the TES line... I didn't play any of those single player ones, just ESO.

    Thus proving that the MMORPGs are WAY better.

    Sz  :)
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    DMKano said:
    Let me know when Cyrodiil gets some love.... and then we got something to talk about.

    Morrowind? I can play the real Morrowind, it is fantastic with the latest mods
     I play Morrowind pretty regularly (I load it up and play just about once a month), doesn't mean I won't play the new Xpac though. All new quests, all new main story, etc..  

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • maybebakedmaybebaked Member UncommonPosts: 305
    Fuck that just give me Elder Scrolls 6
    But then they can't charge a subscription fee and sell you gambling boxes to open.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    baphamet said:
    DMKano said:
    Let me know when Cyrodiil gets some love.... and then we got something to talk about.

    Morrowind? I can play the real Morrowind, it is fantastic with the latest mods
    the gameplay is still trash compared to ESO IMO

    if nostalgia is what you are looking for then by all means....
    I have the distinct feeling there are going to be some seriously salty broken hearts when this expansion launches due exactly to over-expectation because of the very nostalgia you seem to be slamming here. For fuck sakes Zenimax is BANKING on that nostalgia to push sales. At least the people who love the old Morrowind game know exactly what they're getting and not just rejoicing off the hype of a few press releases.
    I think it's a bit silly to act like most don't know what to expect from the chapter TBH. As most are familiar with the ESO team's writing, as well as their typical quest designs. The same goes for their zone design, and the way in which they string it all together. It's been ever present in all of the DLC thus far, I don't really see why that would change now. Speaking of world design, if places like Seyda Neen and Vivec are any indication the nostalgia element is there in vivid High def display. I wouldn't think folks are expecting any more than that TBH. 




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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Fuck that just give me Elder Scrolls 6
    But then they can't charge a subscription fee and sell you gambling boxes to open.
    Yeah? What's stopping them? The latest Deus Ex already added cash shop items (some of which could only be used in one playthrough) to single player games... gambling boxes wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
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    ― Umberto Eco

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  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,698
    Dagon13 said:
    I wonder how many ESO players have actually played Morrowind.
    Of the SP games Morrowind is easily my favorite as it still has strong RPG roots. Oblivion and Skyrim are just action games pretending to be an RPG.

    Of all TES games I have enjoyed ESO as much if not more on occasion as I did Morrowind. And much more than Oblivion or Skyrim.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    edited February 2017
    We'll just have to have a gentleman's disagreement over that. I've seen too many people gushing over the idea of playing in Morrowind without really stopping to think what that really means. I totally agree this will just be ESO with a Morrowind skin, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. However based on previous experience with just about every game in the history of ever, I do feel that there are going to be a lot of players who think it will be otherwise and set their expectation bar far too high. We'll just have to wait and see.
    Maybe I am underestimating the power of folks imaginations :confounded: lol

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Distopia said:
    baphamet said:
    DMKano said:
    Let me know when Cyrodiil gets some love.... and then we got something to talk about.

    Morrowind? I can play the real Morrowind, it is fantastic with the latest mods
    the gameplay is still trash compared to ESO IMO

    if nostalgia is what you are looking for then by all means....
    I have the distinct feeling there are going to be some seriously salty broken hearts when this expansion launches due exactly to over-expectation because of the very nostalgia you seem to be slamming here. For fuck sakes Zenimax is BANKING on that nostalgia to push sales. At least the people who love the old Morrowind game know exactly what they're getting and not just rejoicing off the hype of a few press releases.
    I think it's a bit silly to act like most don't know what to expect from the chapter TBH. As most are familiar with the ESO team's writing, as well as their typical quest designs. The same goes for their zone design, and the way in which they string it all together. It's been ever present in all of the DLC thus far, I don't really see why that would change now. Speaking of world design, if places like Seyda Neen and Vivec are any indication the nostalgia element is there in vivid High def display. I wouldn't think folks are expecting any more than that TBH. 




    We'll just have to have a gentleman's disagreement over that. I've seen too many people gushing over the idea of playing in Morrowind without really stopping to think what that really means. I totally agree this will just be ESO with a Morrowind skin, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. However based on previous experience with just about every game in the history of ever, I do feel that there are going to be a lot of players who think it will be otherwise and set their expectation bar far too high. We'll just have to wait and see.
    ESO has had two large chunks of Skyrim and part of Morrowind in it since it launched. Those zones don't play anything like their single player counterparts... which makes sense since everything that happens in ESO predates the single player games by centuries and then there's that bit about this not being a Tod Howard game :)
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Iselin said:
    Distopia said:
    baphamet said:
    DMKano said:
    Let me know when Cyrodiil gets some love.... and then we got something to talk about.

    Morrowind? I can play the real Morrowind, it is fantastic with the latest mods
    the gameplay is still trash compared to ESO IMO

    if nostalgia is what you are looking for then by all means....
    I have the distinct feeling there are going to be some seriously salty broken hearts when this expansion launches due exactly to over-expectation because of the very nostalgia you seem to be slamming here. For fuck sakes Zenimax is BANKING on that nostalgia to push sales. At least the people who love the old Morrowind game know exactly what they're getting and not just rejoicing off the hype of a few press releases.
    I think it's a bit silly to act like most don't know what to expect from the chapter TBH. As most are familiar with the ESO team's writing, as well as their typical quest designs. The same goes for their zone design, and the way in which they string it all together. It's been ever present in all of the DLC thus far, I don't really see why that would change now. Speaking of world design, if places like Seyda Neen and Vivec are any indication the nostalgia element is there in vivid High def display. I wouldn't think folks are expecting any more than that TBH. 




    We'll just have to have a gentleman's disagreement over that. I've seen too many people gushing over the idea of playing in Morrowind without really stopping to think what that really means. I totally agree this will just be ESO with a Morrowind skin, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. However based on previous experience with just about every game in the history of ever, I do feel that there are going to be a lot of players who think it will be otherwise and set their expectation bar far too high. We'll just have to wait and see.
    ESO has had two large chunks of Skyrim and part of Morrowind in it since it launched. Those zones don't play anything like their single player counterparts... which makes sense since everything that happens in ESO predates the single player games by centuries and then there's that bit about this not being a Tod Howard game :)
    To be fair, not even Howard's own teams have been able to recreate that RPG atmosphere TES had in Morrowind. 

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Distopia said:
    Iselin said:
    Distopia said:
    baphamet said:
    DMKano said:
    Let me know when Cyrodiil gets some love.... and then we got something to talk about.

    Morrowind? I can play the real Morrowind, it is fantastic with the latest mods
    the gameplay is still trash compared to ESO IMO

    if nostalgia is what you are looking for then by all means....
    I have the distinct feeling there are going to be some seriously salty broken hearts when this expansion launches due exactly to over-expectation because of the very nostalgia you seem to be slamming here. For fuck sakes Zenimax is BANKING on that nostalgia to push sales. At least the people who love the old Morrowind game know exactly what they're getting and not just rejoicing off the hype of a few press releases.
    I think it's a bit silly to act like most don't know what to expect from the chapter TBH. As most are familiar with the ESO team's writing, as well as their typical quest designs. The same goes for their zone design, and the way in which they string it all together. It's been ever present in all of the DLC thus far, I don't really see why that would change now. Speaking of world design, if places like Seyda Neen and Vivec are any indication the nostalgia element is there in vivid High def display. I wouldn't think folks are expecting any more than that TBH. 




    We'll just have to have a gentleman's disagreement over that. I've seen too many people gushing over the idea of playing in Morrowind without really stopping to think what that really means. I totally agree this will just be ESO with a Morrowind skin, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. However based on previous experience with just about every game in the history of ever, I do feel that there are going to be a lot of players who think it will be otherwise and set their expectation bar far too high. We'll just have to wait and see.
    ESO has had two large chunks of Skyrim and part of Morrowind in it since it launched. Those zones don't play anything like their single player counterparts... which makes sense since everything that happens in ESO predates the single player games by centuries and then there's that bit about this not being a Tod Howard game :)
    To be fair, not even Howard's own teams have been able to recreate that RPG atmosphere TES had in Morrowind. 
    True that. They have become more and more a marriage of TES and Fallout.
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • M1tankerr460M1tankerr460 Member UncommonPosts: 13
    Well as far as the layout goes, they've already stated they used the same map from TES: Morrowind and gave it a face lift. 
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Torval said:
    Iselin said:
    Fuck that just give me Elder Scrolls 6
    But then they can't charge a subscription fee and sell you gambling boxes to open.
    Yeah? What's stopping them? The latest Deus Ex already added cash shop items (some of which could only be used in one playthrough) to single player games... gambling boxes wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
    You people talk like this is a new thing. How do you think GTA stays in the top 10 revenue earners month after month, year after year.

    My son just bought weapon a pack in Uncharted 4 because he wanted them and they were on sale. Most people don't actually care about that stuff, like they don't care if they have to buy a $50 endorsement tag for their fishing license and a $12 lure. The costs are insignificant (especially compared to other hobbies) and they just want to have fun.
    And you people talk like this is a good thing lol.
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Torval said:
    Iselin said:
    Fuck that just give me Elder Scrolls 6
    But then they can't charge a subscription fee and sell you gambling boxes to open.
    Yeah? What's stopping them? The latest Deus Ex already added cash shop items (some of which could only be used in one playthrough) to single player games... gambling boxes wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
    You people talk like this is a new thing. How do you think GTA stays in the top 10 revenue earners month after month, year after year.

    My son just bought weapon a pack in Uncharted 4 because he wanted them and they were on sale. Most people don't actually care about that stuff, like they don't care if they have to buy a $50 endorsement tag for their fishing license and a $12 lure. The costs are insignificant (especially compared to other hobbies) and they just want to have fun.
    This is true. 

    I'm sure many others are like myself. While I do play games more than the average person I assume. I spend all of my money elsewhere (Art supplies, Guitar/sound production equipment etc) for the most part. At most I'll pay a sub usually. I don't really care to purchase shop items. Certain games make it a must to "look cool". Yet I've never felt SWTOR or ESO were that way (just two mainstream examples). I actually find most of the shop costumes in games to be gaudy and unrealistic, which I despise. 

    XP pots and that stuff never had much appeal for me either. Mounts and the like again usually gaudy or unrealistic. There's just never much in those shops that draw me to them. 

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311
    baphamet said:
    DMKano said:
    Let me know when Cyrodiil gets some love.... and then we got something to talk about.

    Morrowind? I can play the real Morrowind, it is fantastic with the latest mods
    the gameplay is still trash compared to ESO IMO

    if nostalgia is what you are looking for then by all means....
    I have the distinct feeling there are going to be some seriously salty broken hearts when this expansion launches due exactly to over-expectation because of the very nostalgia you seem to be slamming here. For fuck sakes Zenimax is BANKING on that nostalgia to push sales. At least the people who love the old Morrowind game know exactly what they're getting and not just rejoicing off the hype of a few press releases.
    i'm not slamming nostalgia, i love it myself with certain games. but gameplay wise? there is no comparison IMO and i'm not sure how anyone could argue otherwise but please do give it a try if you disagree.
  • baphametbaphamet Member RarePosts: 3,311
    Dagon13 said:
    I wonder how many ESO players have actually played Morrowind.
    i have and it's got a great atmosphere and all that, just like all the ES single player games. but the gameplay has not aged well, even skyrim is not fun for me anymore because the combat is just so basic and clunky compared to so many other newer RPG's including ESO.

    but that's just me and i know some will disagree and that's fine.
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    edited February 2017
    Iselin said:
    Torval said:
    You people talk like this is a new thing. How do you think GTA stays in the top 10 revenue earners month after month, year after year.

    My son just bought weapon a pack in Uncharted 4 because he wanted them and they were on sale. Most people don't actually care about that stuff, like they don't care if they have to buy a $50 endorsement tag for their fishing license and a $12 lure. The costs are insignificant (especially compared to other hobbies) and they just want to have fun.
    And you people talk like this is a good thing lol.
    Nah just acknowledging it is a thing. Good or bad is in the eye of the beholder. It also varies game by game. Look at GTA since it was used as an example. They consistently offer free multiplayer content updates to that game. Which is probably a direct result of all of the revenue from that shop.

    Otherwise it would have probably died off long ago. Yet the servers are still pretty active (across multiple platforms). Is that good or bad?

    I personally don't look at it so negatively in cases like that.

     1) it's a game with tons of vanilla content ( at a typical game's price tag). 
     2) they regularly update the multiplayer portion. (yes I'd love some single player DLC)...

    In other cases it's not so rosy. This isn't really a universally good or bad topic.  

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Distopia said:
    Iselin said:
    Torval said:
    You people talk like this is a new thing. How do you think GTA stays in the top 10 revenue earners month after month, year after year.

    My son just bought weapon a pack in Uncharted 4 because he wanted them and they were on sale. Most people don't actually care about that stuff, like they don't care if they have to buy a $50 endorsement tag for their fishing license and a $12 lure. The costs are insignificant (especially compared to other hobbies) and they just want to have fun.
    And you people talk like this is a good thing lol.
    Nah just acknowledging it is a thing. Good or bad is in the eye of the beholder. It also varies game by game. Look at GTA since it was used as an example. They consistently offer free multiplayer content updates to that game. Which is probably a direct result of all of the revenue from that shop.

    Otherwise it would have probably died off long ago. Yet the servers are still pretty active in that game (across multiple platforms). Is that good or bad?

    I personally don't look at it so negatively in cases like that.

     1) it's a game with tons of vanilla content ( at a typical game's price tag). 
     2) they regularly update the multiplayer portion. (yes I'd love some single player DLC)...

    In other cases it's not so rosy. This isn't really a universally good or bad topic.  

    Well I must be old fashioned but I like buying the game and then playing the game without any other purchases like I did back in the 80s and 90s. Back then no one was trying to get at our wallet constantly while we played.

    It was even a rare thing in PC games when consoles started doing it but these days there is hardly any difference between PC, consoles, IOS or Facebook games. They're all constantly trying to sell you more.

    At best to me, they're things to be ignored while playing but they're always an annoyance.
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • TENTINGTENTING Member UncommonPosts: 262
    edited February 2017
    Iselin said:
     


    Well I must be old fashioned but I like buying the game and then playing the game without any other purchases like I did back in the 80s and 90s. Back then no one was trying to get at our wallet constantly while we played.

    It was even a rare thing in PC games when consoles started doing it but these days there is hardly any difference between PC, consoles, IOS or Facebook games. They're all constantly trying to sell you more.

    At best to me, they're things to be ignored while playing but they're always an annoyance.
    I have followed this discuss in various threads by now and been considering your responses.

    I too liked it when games were a one payment purchase.
    The games in question tended to only give content for a week or two though, at best a month if it had different difficulties, or if you were competing with friends, a bit of rivalry play engaged us for a longer time in certain games.
     But overall short term games.

    Now these MMORPGs are massive, having to pay them with a sub and then +++ extra extra Xpacs, DLCs, Chapters etc. and what ever eyecandy is added in a store that lures the beholder to buy things again.

    It is unfortunate it has turned out that way, and on top of that, getting things ingame in a lot of MMORPGs has gotten increasingly more annoying. And when not that, designers intentionally degrade the attraction of lower game rewards in appeal and looks, to the point where its almost an insult. And causing second grade players, if they wear the ugly gear.

    Manipulation is taking place, I will not deny that.

    It is just so rare to find a game that has the design you like, the art you like and the playstyle you like, that it becomes easy to feel grateful of such one game existing, that paying the compromise seems fair enough.

    I mean what other choice do we have.

    Play ugly cheap games or games with an extreme amount of RNG to prolong players subs? 
    Not play games at all?
    Spend most of our time on gameforums complaining to the companies?

    What are our choices Iselin?

    I just want to play the game I like.

    Do I feel its unfortunate that Zenimax continue to raise the prices for mounts? As if they are testing just how high they can go, before they have to stop?
    Yes I find it very annoying.
    And I have stopped buying the really expensive ones. I mean a mount now costs a whole game or now a chapter.

    It just does not end till we stop buying the games, there is no other way.

    But I dont want to stop, I cant.

    What to do? :o 



      
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