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  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    Gender lock here is for a reason that you discover as the story progresses.

    I thought that this would be BS hype. NMS kind of hype. After the reviews, I hemmed and hawed and decided not to buy it. But then I did. 12 hours in, I'm engaged. I'm constantly looking around (like Skyrim) for what else they have. Some nice little things are like listening to story tellers in town or the music and just sit there. The one story was a good 5-7 minutes of backstory. Then it looped but still. Drew me right in and I found myself wishing I could hush the people having idle conversations behind me (that didn't seem to loop).

    The creatures feel right. Not super predictable but as they get stronger I am noticing their patterns. As I play I've changed weapons for different creatures. I may save some arrows and kill some with a spear while others I decide it's too risky and bow them to death (or tie them down with ropes and beat them senseless).

    The one thing I wish I'd have been told is to farm boars/turkey/raccoons much more early on for bags. Their "rares" are needed for 2nd and 3rd tier bags and they're not as plentiful as one might think.
  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092

    Ikeda said:

    The one thing I wish I'd have been told is to farm boars/turkey/raccoons much more early on for bags. Their "rares" are needed for 2nd and 3rd tier bags and they're not as plentiful as one might think.



    I figured that out pretty quick when I got my pre-order goodies. Bags are made with animal content, same for health potions. For that reason alone I've been hunting the wildlife for quite a bit already and because of that I already have a lot of green and blue materials from them. I figured to keep them and see what I need them for later on (thanks for clarifying it ;) )



    Loving the game on pro, poor PC elites really don't get it. If you love gaming then why just own one format and then cry when a great game comes out on another format. This day and age you are doing yourself an injustice by not owning at least one console.



    Could not agree more. These days, the PC isn't the only 'master race' anymore and SONY has shown that with the PS4 Pro and Guerrilla with Horizon, while the PC 'evolution' has kinda stalled for the last decade with only the GPU squeezing out more power for games.

    If HZD is setting a standard for coming titles on the PS4(Pro), then I really think that the 'PC master race' elitists are in trouble, because more and more companies might develop for consoles (only). After all, consoles is where the (gaming) money is...
  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    edited March 2017

    Avanah said:

    My Top 5..........................



    1. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!

    2. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!

    3. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!

    4. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!

    5. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!



    #SadPanda



    I'm sure you know the answer. Sony owns Guerrilla Games, the developers of this game and have always owned them.

    Also, Sony is clearly seeing how Microsoft is killing XBO by releasing all their exclusives on PC. Sony is playing it smarter by focusing on hammering its user base with several PS4 exclusive games, increasing sales even more.
    Actually, the Xbox has dominated sales lately in consoles.  Sony is throwing a lot of money away with these PS4 exclusives.  Typical Sony, full of not so bright execs.  Literally the dumbest decision ever to not put a HD Blueray drive in their newer consoles is really hurting them.
  • SpellshaperSpellshaper Member UncommonPosts: 419
    The thing about Sony exclusives is, that they are all 3rd person adventures. If you like any other genre you are out of luck on PS4. It makes sense, because they looks the best on promos and generate a lot of hype.
    But the money they put in to them have to be enormous and they have to be sure its worth it. They even pay devs of other games to NOT be on other systems (especially Xbox, but sometimes even PC).

    But honestly as a consumer without PS4, I have to really apprise the XBox play anywhere titles and most importantly XBox x PC cross play. This feature alone makes Gears of War 4 so much better value for me.

    I am not sure if this move is worth it for MS. I think a lot of people are bashing MS for this move, because of Sony exclusive like this one. But I see it as VERY brave and pro consumer move, thats worth of praise and I hope it will pay off in the long run.

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  • GrakulenGrakulen Staff WriterMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 894
    edited March 2017

    Ozmodan said:





    Avanah said:


    My Top 5..........................





    1. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!


    2. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!


    3. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!


    4. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!


    5. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!





    #SadPanda






    I'm sure you know the answer. Sony owns Guerrilla Games, the developers of this game and have always owned them.


    Also, Sony is clearly seeing how Microsoft is killing XBO by releasing all their exclusives on PC. Sony is playing it smarter by focusing on hammering its user base with several PS4 exclusive games, increasing sales even more.


    Actually, the Xbox has dominated sales lately in consoles.  Sony is throwing a lot of money away with these PS4 exclusives.  Typical Sony, full of not so bright execs.  Literally the dumbest decision ever to not put a HD Blueray drive in their newer consoles is really hurting them.



    You really hate the fact they didn't put that HD Blu Ray drive in. Other than that the PS4 is superior in every objective measure. Especially with MS cross play. Just play all the new good XBox One games on PC. If it wasn't for that I'd buy an XBox. Heck i've bought two and then sell them after a few months of them sitting around and me not playing them. It's also easier to dominate sheer sales numbers when you are playing catch up.
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    I have a PS4, but, not getting the game, from what i've seen so far the game itself looks good, but it has the same problem that The Crew and Watchdogs had, the main character that you play, if you don't like them, then the game is pretty much ruined, and that is the problem with Horizon zero dawn, the character you are limited to playing, i detest. :o
  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    edited March 2017
    Grakulen said:
    Ozmodan said:
    Avanah said:
    My Top 5..........................
    1. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!
    2. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!
    3. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!
    4. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!
    5. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!

    #SadPanda
    I'm sure you know the answer. Sony owns Guerrilla Games, the developers of this game and have always owned them.

    Also, Sony is clearly seeing how Microsoft is killing XBO by releasing all their exclusives on PC. Sony is playing it smarter by focusing on hammering its user base with several PS4 exclusive games, increasing sales even more.
    Actually, the Xbox has dominated sales lately in consoles.  Sony is throwing a lot of money away with these PS4 exclusives.  Typical Sony, full of not so bright execs.  Literally the dumbest decision ever to not put a HD Blueray drive in their newer consoles is really hurting them.

    You really hate the fact they didn't put that HD Blu Ray drive in. Other than that the PS4 is superior in every objective measure. Especially with MS cross play. Just play all the new good XBox One games on PC. If it wasn't for that I'd buy an XBox. Heck i've bought two and then sell them after a few months of them sitting around and me not playing them. It's also easier to dominate sheer sales numbers when you are playing catch up.
    Certainly don't hate the fact they did not put that drive it, but yes I do criticize it.  Here is the point, if you want to go buy a HD Blueray unit, they start at $250 and go up.  When you add in the fact that 95% of us cannot stream 4k video, if you want to actually see 4k on the beautiful TV you own, you will need such a drive.  Now the Xbox One S can be had for the exact same price which makes it an easy decision.   As to the PS4, yep it is a good unit, but most of us don't need or want more than one console, hence it loses out.  Then when you factor in the fact that Microsoft is letting you play both console and PC with all the new titles that makes it an even better deal.  

    Sony execs are just brain dead.  I would not be surprised to see them bought out as they have run the corporation into the ground.
  • GrakulenGrakulen Staff WriterMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 894

    Ozmodan said:


    Grakulen said:

    Ozmodan said:
    Avanah said:
    My Top 5..........................
    1. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!
    2. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!
    3. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!
    4. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!
    5. Why aren't these games on the best gaming system? PCs!


    #SadPanda
    I'm sure you know the answer. Sony owns Guerrilla Games, the developers of this game and have always owned them.

    Also, Sony is clearly seeing how Microsoft is killing XBO by releasing all their exclusives on PC. Sony is playing it smarter by focusing on hammering its user base with several PS4 exclusive games, increasing sales even more.
    Actually, the Xbox has dominated sales lately in consoles.  Sony is throwing a lot of money away with these PS4 exclusives.  Typical Sony, full of not so bright execs.  Literally the dumbest decision ever to not put a HD Blueray drive in their newer consoles is really hurting them.


    You really hate the fact they didn't put that HD Blu Ray drive in. Other than that the PS4 is superior in every objective measure. Especially with MS cross play. Just play all the new good XBox One games on PC. If it wasn't for that I'd buy an XBox. Heck i've bought two and then sell them after a few months of them sitting around and me not playing them. It's also easier to dominate sheer sales numbers when you are playing catch up.



    Certainly don't hate the fact they did not put that drive it, but yes I do criticize it.  Here is the point, if you want to go buy a HD Blueray unit, they start at $250 and go up.  When you add in the fact that 95% of us cannot stream 4k video, if you want to actually see 4k on the beautiful TV you own, you will need such a drive.  Now the Xbox One S can be had for the exact same price which makes it an easy decision.   As to the PS4, yep it is a good unit, but most of us don't need or want more than one console, hence it loses out.  Then when you factor in the fact that Microsoft is letting you play both console and PC with all the new titles that makes it an even better deal.  

    Sony execs are just brain dead.  I would not be surprised to see them bought out as they have run the corporation into the ground.



    I'd have like to have had a HD Blu Ray player too but I won't go so far as to call them brain dead. The PS4 still has a 2:1 install base on the XBox this console generation.

  • SpellshaperSpellshaper Member UncommonPosts: 419
    PS4 still has a 2:1 install base on the XBox this console generation.


    Source?

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  • RyphtRypht Member UncommonPosts: 39


    PS4 still has a 2:1 install base on the XBox this console generation.




    Source?





    The latest PS4 sales numbers continue to show Sony with a comfortable lead, crossing 50 million sold over the course of its lifetime. That's compared to just 24 million Xbox One consoles sold as of October 15, 2016. http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/ps4-vs-xbox-720-which-is-better-1127315
  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    So, another interesting fact:

    Your mount can run shit over.  I grabbed a "ram" mount and went loco on boars and turkeys, foxes and rabbits near the "Stadium" (don't want to give it away if you haven't been exploring).  He's also useful on Cultists... Run in full speed, dismount, shoot a couple of arrows while he goes full Bronco, and then hop back on and circle around for another charge.  

    Took out a couple of the flamebreathers, 2 saws, 4 watchers and about 10 cultists in one fight in particular (it may have been my fault I dragged them all together... and it was priceless)
  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092

    Rypht said:





    PS4 still has a 2:1 install base on the XBox this console generation.






    Source?









    The latest PS4 sales numbers continue to show Sony with a comfortable lead, crossing 50 million sold over the course of its lifetime. That's compared to just 24 million Xbox One consoles sold as of October 15, 2016. http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/ps4-vs-xbox-720-which-is-better-1127315




    Only bad decision SONY made for the Slim was to remove that digital audio out jack IMO. I know it saves a couple of $ in sales price, but WHY? The console supports Dolby DIgital / DTS and now you have to be creative to loop the sound from HDMI back to your amplifier (would not work on my old TV). Or perhaps SONY did this on purpose to make it a 'selling point' for the Pro (as if the thing didn't have enough selling points already :D )

    Also, as @Grakulen already stated, what's the use to buy a XB1 when the thing actually is a mediocre Windows 10 PC (if even that - my 10 year old CPU performs much better) and you can cross-play all XB1 games on your PC if you have Windows 10 installed on your system..? IMO one of the worst 'marketing' decisions Mickey$oft ever made (other than to fork out an other $10 for selling XB1 games, while they're still normal price on Steam...)


    ...note...
    I'm no XB1 hater, though I am a Mickey$oft hater. Reason I've never bought a XBOX is because the games available on them are just not the ones that appeal to me. I'm more a jRPG lover, and for that PlayStation is just a better platform ;-)
  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    PS4 still has a 2:1 install base on the XBox this console generation.


    Source?


    Lol you got your source now spread it over the Xbox 1. 




  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    It's not about the PC elite race or any such crap I just suck at the playstation controls so I always hesitate having to buy a new console or get another device like Xim to play the game with a mouse and keyboard plus I bet this game depends on fast reflexes another weak aspect for me.

  • SpellshaperSpellshaper Member UncommonPosts: 419
    Maybe I am blind, but I cant see any source there? I am asking because I think there are none as MS said they wont release any numbers, so you can keep your fanboy pitchfork in the ass.

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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    kitarad said:
    It's not about the PC elite race or any such crap I just suck at the playstation controls so I always hesitate having to buy a new console or get another device like Xim to play the game with a mouse and keyboard plus I bet this game depends on fast reflexes another weak aspect for me.
    Controller hater here. I have to use Keymander to play Destiny so that shows how much I suck at aiming!

    I have had zero issues playing HZD so far with a controller. Their are a few perks/skills/whatever you can get early on that slows down time to make aiming easier. Plus the Spear is OP as hell IMHO. I beat the first tutorial Boss-type thing solely by melee, didn't fire one shot (because I screwed up and fell off a rock in front of it O.o ). I have been pleasantly surprised at how easy a time I have had at ranged combat, although I am only a few hours in-game so I expect it to get a little harder.

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  • RedFinRedFin Member UncommonPosts: 18
    I'm maybe 18 hours into this game and I'm really impressed.  I've never played a console game with combat that is this responsive.  Once the controls became second nature, it really opened up combat and I found myself engaging with enemies for the challenge rather than try to sneak around them.  The beauty of the game is well reported, even on a regular PS4 (1080p), so I'll skip that analysis.  The absence of zoning in the game is remarkable.  I've never really had issues with zoning in games but now seeing a game without it, I want all future games to follow suit.

    I think they could have done a better job with the level and skill system though.  I don't know for sure, but I think by the end of the game I could see having every skill available, similar to Shadow of Mordor.  I wish developers would stop this practice and limit a single play through to 25% or so of the available skills.  Doing so would foster the desire for additional playthroughs and also make my decisions feel like they actually matter.

    Oh, and by the way, I haven't seen any lag/judder yet and I've had no bugs so far, which may be a first for me for games played on day one.  It's good to see a developer actually finish the game before it's released for once.
  • GrakulenGrakulen Staff WriterMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 894


    PS4 still has a 2:1 install base on the XBox this console generation.




    Source?






    https://www.gamespot.com/amp-articles/xbox-one-sales-reach-26-million-report/1100-6447023/

    It's not about hating on the XBox. It's just math.

    Also the reason people stop reporting on numbers is from fear of scaring off investors. If the numbers were great they would shout them from the rooftops.
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004

    Grakulen said:





    PS4 still has a 2:1 install base on the XBox this console generation.






    Source?











    https://www.gamespot.com/amp-articles/xbox-one-sales-reach-26-million-report/1100-6447023/



    It's not about hating on the XBox. It's just math.



    Also the reason people stop reporting on numbers is from fear of scaring off investors. If the numbers were great they would shout them from the rooftops.



    I think one of the reasons why Microsoft is pushing the whole UWP thing for Win10 is because XB1 userbase is not very good compared to the PS4 userbase, whether or not UWP will eventually compensate for the disparity though, is a good question.
  • mmorobommorobo Member UncommonPosts: 126
    For record I have an Xbox 1 and no PSs.  (Full disclaimer I have 4-PCs, 3-DS, 2-3DS, Wii and WiiU)

    When people are talking about the X-1 beating the PS4 where do they get the made up the numbers?  Every report that I've read MS only had about 4-6 months where they outsold Sony in the US.  World wide sales still favored the PS4 every month.
  • SpellshaperSpellshaper Member UncommonPosts: 419

    It's not about hating on the XBox. It's just math.



    Also the reason people stop reporting on numbers is from fear of scaring off investors. If the numbers were great they would shout them from the rooftops.

    I know there are no numbers, thats why I was asking. Its not math its just made up numbers just like a lot of "jurnalism" these days. Facebook message is reliable source for a lot of journalists, verifying is too hard and first nonsense is better than late truth. I just dont jump on this trend and point out such practices whenever I can.

    I dont hate any console either, actually my only console is from Nintendo. But I have to praise super pro-consumer moves that XBox is doing lately, despite or in spite of the hate.

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  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,099
    I just can't get past robot dinos. Wtf?
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Viper482 said:
    I just can't get past robot dinos. Wtf?
    I share that wtf but I do want to find out if they have a good story to account for it. I bet they do.
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  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    Iselin said:
    Viper482 said:
    I just can't get past robot dinos. Wtf?
    I share that wtf but I do want to find out if they have a good story to account for it. I bet they do.
    So far, so far.  But I haven't gotten to the end yet to know if the hook that keeps tugging me around is worth it or if I'm about to get eaten.
  • HeraseHerase Member RarePosts: 993
    Viper482 said:
    I just can't get past robot dinos. Wtf?
    It is quite wtf, but for me they don't feel out of place. Think due to them not going overboard with the machine types and keeping them similar to animals we know of and at some point existed irl. They did a good job with the prehistoric-esk meets futuristic world.  Also think this is revealed overtime as the story unravels 
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