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  • JaimlJaiml Member UncommonPosts: 130
    LIOKI said:

    Jaiml said:

    I've been playing it for a few months now.

    It is definitely still in Alpha.  Lot's of stuff still needs to be implemented.  If you don't like to play games that are half finished you should not try this at this time.  I'm not a big fan of the free weekends at this stage.  It is not ready for the mass market and it will only hurt in the long run.  Players who don't understand Alpha will get a bad taste and stay away and post crap about it in forums.

    The good.  Very few quests.  Not a theme park!  You are on your own, go be whatever you want to be.  Skill system advances through use.  I like the skill pool concept.  Great community.  I quickly found a great guild with great people who helped guide me and made the evenings fun.  I love the crafting system!  All good gear is player made.  Crafting is challenging and failure is painful but that just makes success so much sweeter!

    I still have hope it will become a good game.  Though it has a way to go before then.

    Unless you really love the game and want to support it, avoid the cash shop.  I have yet to purchase anything.  Sheesh, stuff is high priced!  Thankfully I have not seen a reason to use it.



    All wrong. This game is bad. Even messing with UE4 the little amount I have I had better melee combat implemented. Moving while swinging a sword? How could any proper game dev even tolerate this, much less allow it to go public? I'd be ashamed and embarrassed. The good you list are not even good, they are ideas that are half baked.
    I get it, everyone has to start somewhere, no one makes a blockbuster game out the gate. This isn't their first rodeo. This is not a commercial product, this is what you make when you learn how to make a commercial product and they damn well know it.
    And yet I enjoy it...

    One of the reasons why I try games and don't just go by others opinions, good or bad, about games.

    My advice?  You should not play this game.  Go find one that you enjoy playing.

    As for me, I'll keep playing until it loses its fun for me.
  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    Jaiml said:

    My advice?  You should not play this game.  Go find one that you enjoy playing.
    Huh, sounds familiar. The whale pod uses that stock phrase every time someone criticizes the game.

    A lot of people have taken that "advice" to heart, which is why SotA is a ghost town still propped up by a few whales with more money than sense.

    Pat yourself on the back for giving out good advice. Who needs haters when SotA's own community is doing a bang up job killing the game?


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  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
    donger56 said:
    This is another sinking ship from space cadet Garriot. It will be interesting to hear his excuses of why this game failed once he drops it and moves on to try to do something else based on his success of a game he made over 20 years ago. These guys need to just go away so we can get some new ideas. This whole nostalgia thing needs to just end because all we are getting is terrible versions of old games that are nothing but cash grabs.

    It kills me.  I used to worship the guy when I was 12 years old and playing the original Ultimas.
  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    Rawyn said:
    donger56 said:
    This is another sinking ship from space cadet Garriot. It will be interesting to hear his excuses of why this game failed once he drops it and moves on to try to do something else based on his success of a game he made over 20 years ago. These guys need to just go away so we can get some new ideas. This whole nostalgia thing needs to just end because all we are getting is terrible versions of old games that are nothing but cash grabs.
    Well, last time it was all EA's fault. This time he has no parent company to fall back on when playing the blame game.

    My prediction is that Richard, the rest of Portalaruim, and the SotA whales will blame it on the very same people they alienated during early development phases of the game. 

    Kudos to to all the people who fought back, called them out on other sites, and risked bans to get the word out on the downward spiral SotA was taking. I'm proud to be one of those people.

    If the game does finally die off, then I'll gladly take some responsibility for that. Maybe in the future Portalarium will think twice before taking people's money and then treating them like garbage.

    The real problem has never been the game itself. It has major issues that need fixing, but the game is playable. The community is the real problem, who are so quick to shut down anyone who dares criticize the status quo, all sanctioned by Richard and Co.

    I sometimes wonder what would happen if Portalarium extended an olive branch to the disaffected, admitting to treating them badly, and asking them to give the game another chance. However, that will never happen due to the bloated egos of both Portalarium and its whale pod.

    RIP SotA (hopefully)
    I would say while the community is a huge downfall of this game. The poor design swinging wildly from month to month, with no planning with core systems, game mechanics, world, awful mix match systems all created with cheap unity assets and using the unity engine are main problems with this game. It had no where to go but down with the titanic with this team that just don't have the talent and know how, they just didn't have a clue what they were doing for 4 years.
    Ah unity engine...no wonder it looks so bad...I thought if someone was going to remake UO at least it would have much better graphics 20 years later.
  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    edited April 2017
    OG_Zorvan said:
    donger56 said:
    This is another sinking ship from space cadet Garriot. It will be interesting to hear his excuses of why this game failed once he drops it and moves on to try to do something else based on his success of a game he made over 20 years ago. These guys need to just go away so we can get some new ideas. This whole nostalgia thing needs to just end because all we are getting is terrible versions of old games that are nothing but cash grabs.
    Well, last time it was all EA's fault. (hopefully)
    No, no. Last time it was NCSoft's fault, remember? When he wanted to play spaceman while Tabula Rasa floundered.
    That's actually what I was thinking of. Don 't know why I said EA.

    Maybe because NC was just a repeat performance of the Richard vs. EA blamestorm.

    I always thought politicians were special because they can constantly blame others for their failures and still get to keep their jobs. Apparently that applies to game developers as well.
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  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    edited April 2017

    I always thought politicians were special because they can constantly blame others for their failures and still get to keep their jobs. Apparently that applies to game developers as well.

    Although different in substance, the underlying philosophical dynamic behind politics and the differing gaming preferences are still  the same.  Much like the loyal polar opposite philosophical dynamic that exists within the political spectrum, strong loyalties related to specific polar opposite gaming preferences also reside in the varied gaming philosophical extremes.  So just as the ignorant, uninformed, masses within those political demographics are, more often than not, easily swayed with meaningless words, assumptions, beliefs, and baseless promises,  ... the equivalent in meaningless words, assumptions, beliefs, and baseless promises, more often than not, easily sway their targeted masses within the gaming population demographic.

    This is why we often see heated arguments and rhetoric within gaming industry discussion forums rivaling those often seen in the political spectrum. Religion also tends to fall in this category.  It is often said that two topics of discussion that should always be avoided are politics and religion.  An argument could be made that gaming discussion should be added to that list, particularly as it applies to debates related to, but by all means certainly not limited to, the PvE vs PvP arena.  It is an industry so varied in heated opinions and preferences, that it makes agreement in anything a virtual impossibility.

      
  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    Rawyn said:
    donger56 said:
    This is another sinking ship from space cadet Garriot. It will be interesting to hear his excuses of why this game failed once he drops it and moves on to try to do something else based on his success of a game he made over 20 years ago. These guys need to just go away so we can get some new ideas. This whole nostalgia thing needs to just end because all we are getting is terrible versions of old games that are nothing but cash grabs.
    Well, last time it was all EA's fault. This time he has no parent company to fall back on when playing the blame game.

    My prediction is that Richard, the rest of Portalaruim, and the SotA whales will blame it on the very same people they alienated during early development phases of the game. 

    Kudos to to all the people who fought back, called them out on other sites, and risked bans to get the word out on the downward spiral SotA was taking. I'm proud to be one of those people.

    If the game does finally die off, then I'll gladly take some responsibility for that. Maybe in the future Portalarium will think twice before taking people's money and then treating them like garbage.

    The real problem has never been the game itself. It has major issues that need fixing, but the game is playable. The community is the real problem, who are so quick to shut down anyone who dares criticize the status quo, all sanctioned by Richard and Co.

    I sometimes wonder what would happen if Portalarium extended an olive branch to the disaffected, admitting to treating them badly, and asking them to give the game another chance. However, that will never happen due to the bloated egos of both Portalarium and its whale pod.

    RIP SotA (hopefully)
    I would say while the community is a huge downfall of this game. The poor design swinging wildly from month to month, with no planning with core systems, game mechanics, world, awful mix match systems all created with cheap unity assets and using the unity engine are main problems with this game. It had no where to go but down with the titanic with this team that just don't have the talent and know how, they just didn't have a clue what they were doing for 4 years.
    Ah unity engine...no wonder it looks so bad...I thought if someone was going to remake UO at least it would have much better graphics 20 years later.

    Well to be fair, the game looks pretty awesome with all the settings up.


    SotA suffers from the same issue DAoC had. Environment and structures looked awesome, but character models looked like shit. The textures in DAoC still to this day look pretty good, given how long ago they were created.

    I think it's the gap between the two that sets people off. ESO is a good example where that gap is very small and even though some of the textures look a bit unrealistic, the character textures and models fit quite nicely in context with the rest of the world. SotA characters look like clay pots sliding around in comparison to the environment.
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  • Solar_ProphetSolar_Prophet Member EpicPosts: 1,960
    Playing this game is like watching a newer Adam Sandler or Eddie Murphy film. Its awfulness is made all the more painful because you've seen the people involved do so much better in the past, and it leaves you wondering just what the hell happened. 

    AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!

    We are born of the blood. Made men by the blood. Undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open. FEAR THE OLD BLOOD. 

    #IStandWithVic

  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    Playing this game is like watching a newer Adam Sandler or Eddie Murphy film. Its awfulness is made all the more painful because you've seen the people involved do so much better in the past, and it leaves you wondering just what the hell happened. 

    I don't know if you spent much time on their forums, but the sheer level of "groupie" mentality is on fire.

    Garriott could take a page out of the Jim Jones playbook and ask his fans to drink poisoned kool-aid and I'd put money down that half of them would.

    That's what happened. The God complex set in.

    Garriott and crew can do as much of a half-assed job as they want and their fans will insist it's "the bestest game EVAR!"

    Such a sad turn of events.
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