I wonder why this was the game to truly anger the players. I would love to see all games with loot boxes be given an adult only rating and subject to strict rules.
It took a big company like EA to bring loot boxes into the spotlight which is good I guess.
Hopefully this leads to the end of them in every game and the ability the buy stuff without losing to RNG.
Actually, Overwatch brought the lootboxes into the big stage.
Team Fortress 2 brought them to the west originally. Is it safe to say Overwatch is kind of a Team Fortress clone? I sort of think it is.
Definitely very very heavily influenced by TF2:
"blatant ripoff of the game modes; control, king of the hill, and especially payload maps, and the heroes; Tracer vs. Scout, Pharah vs. Soldier, Junkrat vs. Demoman, Zarya vs. Heavy, Torbjörn vs. Engineer, Mercy vs. Medic, Widowmaker vs. Sniper - only Pyro and Spy weren’t represented closely, although one could argue that Mei is Overwatch’s Pyro and Reaper its Spy."
- From some reddit post someone made
...and yet , Blizzard dev's has clearly said that Overwatch was influenced , along other games , by TF2. So they never denied that they didn't ...copy things from other games, including TF2.
Everyone should watch this :
I'm not criticising Overwatch for being influenced by TF2. I'm pointing out that Valve actually started all this. I think it was CS:GO that started the first microtransactions in the west as well with the helmets, not 100% sure they were the first though so don't quote me on it.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
I wonder why this was the game to truly anger the players. I would love to see all games with loot boxes be given an adult only rating and subject to strict rules.
So true but I think its the fact that such iconic characters are hidden behind a massive grind to unlock just one or an insane paywall along with the retail cost. On top of that they are messing with the star wars franchise which has a very strong following and just like other beloved franchises when the fans feel wronged watch out.
Not to mention EA continually drags there name through mud and makes things worse and worse.
It took a big company like EA to bring loot boxes into the spotlight which is good I guess.
Hopefully this leads to the end of them in every game and the ability the buy stuff without losing to RNG.
Actually, Overwatch brought the lootboxes into the big stage.
Team Fortress 2 brought them to the west originally. Is it safe to say Overwatch is kind of a Team Fortress clone? I sort of think it is.
Definitely very very heavily influenced by TF2:
"blatant ripoff of the game modes; control, king of the hill, and especially payload maps, and the heroes; Tracer vs. Scout, Pharah vs. Soldier, Junkrat vs. Demoman, Zarya vs. Heavy, Torbjörn vs. Engineer, Mercy vs. Medic, Widowmaker vs. Sniper - only Pyro and Spy weren’t represented closely, although one could argue that Mei is Overwatch’s Pyro and Reaper its Spy."
Lol, I wonder how long until they turn them back on... my guess would be right around the time the refund period expires.
Also short of totally overhauling the system I don't think it's going to make much difference, P2W or not, random upgrades are a s**t system that never should have been implimented in the first place.
The best part about all of this is that it highlights just how stupid millennials are. Game companies have been doing this to you for years, it's the P2W model but for some reason you just flock to it like you are getting some huge deal. You bitch and cry about the traditional monthly charge but then you blow hundreds if not thousands of dollars on a game.
The reason why this is blowing up is because a document got released that showed just how much money they would make off you. Do you think this is new to this game? No, if you saw how much money games have been making off you with cash shops for years you would probably puke all over yourself.
Hopefully this will be the thing that opens some eyes and gets rid of this P2W, F2P or whatever other arse backwards model these games are coming up with to rip you off.
Good luck unlocking in this game, I hear it is an unimaginable number to unlock everything. Knowing the short attention span of many console players, only a masochist would attempt such.
So the outrage is outdated again? Not only has the fat lady not sung, she is not even in the building yet.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
I suspect this decision was only made to suppress some fire to keep selling. EA is so corrupt that they'll rip customers off twice as hard after current storm is somewhat quieted.
I suspect this decision was only made to suppress some fire to keep selling. EA is so corrupt that they'll rip customers off twice as hard after current storm is somewhat quieted.
I get what you're saying but I don't think this is your typical storm that will go quiet. They may just have gone far enough to start killing the goose that was laying all those golden eggs for themselves and for every other AAA publisher.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
I suspect this decision was only made to suppress some fire to keep selling. EA is so corrupt that they'll rip customers off twice as hard after current storm is somewhat quieted.
I get what you're saying but I don't think this is your typical storm that will go quiet. They may just have gone far enough to start killing the goose that was laying all those golden eggs for themselves and for every other AAA publisher.
I so hope so. Been hoping for this kind of storm for years tbh. On the side note: mmorpg.com gave this p2w title 85 i.e positive review on Metacritic.
I suspect this decision was only made to suppress some fire to keep selling. EA is so corrupt that they'll rip customers off twice as hard after current storm is somewhat quieted.
I get what you're saying but I don't think this is your typical storm that will go quiet. They may just have gone far enough to start killing the goose that was laying all those golden eggs for themselves and for every other AAA publisher.
I so hope so. Been hoping for this kind of storm for years tbh. On the side note: mmorpg.com gave this p2w title 85 i.e positive review on Metacritic.
Made me stick around their website for a while looking at some of their movie and TV reviews... I like it.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Apparently they saw pre-order and sale numbers go down the drain and went into full damage control mode. Players/customers should not be fooled by this move and must continue to speak with their wallets. Only when SWBF II sale figures receive unsalvageable damage will the EA suits learn their lesson.
This shitshow is kinda cool and then again it's kinda bad :c
Evidently, Battlefront 2 is a cool, fun game (with awful progression system). It rights the wrongs of BF 1. And then some. And, well, it's star wars man. After decades of shitty SW games I'm up for anything that's AAA and decent.
But that progression system man. Why were they so dumb to come up with it? This is so freaking infuriating. Did they really think parents will stand-by their children, purchasing loot boxes in the hopes that their kids will earn the item they want? What?
Star Wars has always been a kids show. That's the sole fucking reason Disney invested into purchasing the whole IP. If you want to milk parents, milk them properly. Make cool items and put a god damn price tag on them, like every other game under the sun.
Furthermore, why are they bringing up F2P schemes into a 60$ game?
Fuck man this whole mambo jumbo frustrates me so damn much :c It is a good game, but the marketing guys at the EA dropped the ball so hard on this one, this game will be a barren land in no time.
So I read that announcement but in my head it said this:
"Dear Players,
We'd like to apologise for failing to pull the wool over your eyes with our latest loot crate scam. Many of you realised that this was nothing but a big pay to win clusterfuck and now our investors and shareholders are in a panic in case the game bombs.
We've decided to take the loot crates and pay to win out of the game, FOR NOW! Once you all calm down, and after we've sold a fuck ton of units, we'll be re-introducing these game breaking mechanics so we can milk as much money as we can from all you idiots out there, who quite frankly should know by now that we can't be fucking trusted! MUAHAHAHA!
We're sorry we have to do this but you were to damned smart for us this time. Not to worry, we'll figure out more ways to rip you off soon enough.
It took a big company like EA to bring loot boxes into the spotlight which is good I guess.
Hopefully this leads to the end of them in every game and the ability the buy stuff without losing to RNG.
Actually, Overwatch brought the lootboxes into the big stage.
Team Fortress 2 brought them to the west originally. Is it safe to say Overwatch is kind of a Team Fortress clone? I sort of think it is.
Definitely very very heavily influenced by TF2:
"blatant ripoff of the game modes; control, king of the hill, and especially payload maps, and the heroes; Tracer vs. Scout, Pharah vs. Soldier, Junkrat vs. Demoman, Zarya vs. Heavy, Torbjörn vs. Engineer, Mercy vs. Medic, Widowmaker vs. Sniper - only Pyro and Spy weren’t represented closely, although one could argue that Mei is Overwatch’s Pyro and Reaper its Spy."
- From some reddit post someone made
BIG. STAGE. Key words.
Valve isn't the big stage? I mean they only operate the biggest digital games platform ever made and practically define PC gaming...
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
EA can still kiss my buttocks, they had the nerve to do the same thing with the new Need for Speed, and are going to get away selling a 3 year old game in Sims 4 to console full price. They helped ruined Mass Effect Andromeda... closed studios down to bleed them dry and absorb them, and this was only this year.
This company has shown way to many times in the past too.. that they absolutely don't give a rats butt about any of us. I'm just waiting for them to absorb Bioware, Dice, and few other studios soon.
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So true but I think its the fact that such iconic characters are hidden behind a massive grind to unlock just one or an insane paywall along with the retail cost. On top of that they are messing with the star wars franchise which has a very strong following and just like other beloved franchises when the fans feel wronged watch out.
Not to mention EA continually drags there name through mud and makes things worse and worse.
Also short of totally overhauling the system I don't think it's going to make much difference, P2W or not, random upgrades are a s**t system that never should have been implimented in the first place.
The reason why this is blowing up is because a document got released that showed just how much money they would make off you. Do you think this is new to this game? No, if you saw how much money games have been making off you with cash shops for years you would probably puke all over yourself.
Hopefully this will be the thing that opens some eyes and gets rid of this P2W, F2P or whatever other arse backwards model these games are coming up with to rip you off.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
On the side note: mmorpg.com gave this p2w title 85 i.e positive review on Metacritic.
Made me stick around their website for a while looking at some of their movie and TV reviews... I like it.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
EA is pulling a scam level of 10 year old. Its retarded ... lol
Basically they are pulling cash shop until people do first reviews and first batch of people buys the game. And than they will bring it back.
The level of scummy marketing is epic on this one.
And the golden poop award is still coming to haunt them.
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/This is still not over, the transactions are only TEMPORARILY disabled and may well come back just as intrusive after launch.
Evidently, Battlefront 2 is a cool, fun game (with awful progression system). It rights the wrongs of BF 1. And then some. And, well, it's star wars man. After decades of shitty SW games I'm up for anything that's AAA and decent.
But that progression system man. Why were they so dumb to come up with it? This is so freaking infuriating. Did they really think parents will stand-by their children, purchasing loot boxes in the hopes that their kids will earn the item they want? What?
Star Wars has always been a kids show. That's the sole fucking reason Disney invested into purchasing the whole IP. If you want to milk parents, milk them properly. Make cool items and put a god damn price tag on them, like every other game under the sun.
Furthermore, why are they bringing up F2P schemes into a 60$ game?
Fuck man this whole mambo jumbo frustrates me so damn much :c It is a good game, but the marketing guys at the EA dropped the ball so hard on this one, this game will be a barren land in no time.
Back to Jedi Academy MP for me
Wow.. I did not know that scores bellow 1 (0.8 ATM) are actually registrable in metacritic.
"Dear Players,
We'd like to apologise for failing to pull the wool over your eyes with our latest loot crate scam. Many of you realised that this was nothing but a big pay to win clusterfuck and now our investors and shareholders are in a panic in case the game bombs.
We've decided to take the loot crates and pay to win out of the game, FOR NOW! Once you all calm down, and after we've sold a fuck ton of units, we'll be re-introducing these game breaking mechanics so we can milk as much money as we can from all you idiots out there, who quite frankly should know by now that we can't be fucking trusted! MUAHAHAHA!
We're sorry we have to do this but you were to damned smart for us this time. Not to worry, we'll figure out more ways to rip you off soon enough.
Thanks, suckers!"
I must be getting cynical in my old age.