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[NO NO NO SPOILERS] Is Star Wars The Last Jedi worth seeing?
TheScavenger
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Haven't seen it yet. My friend is a HUGE Star Wars fan and said it was even more amazing than The Force Awakens, but he loves anything Star Wars. I actually didn't see The Force Awakens, but I did see Rogue One and that was amazing
Tickets here aren't that much for person, like 12 dollars a person. More than a subscription to an MMO seeing that a sub lasts 30 days. And I'll probably see it anyway even if responses in this thread are negative, it be something nice for me and my wife to do together and get out of the apartment to do stuff.
But going in with knowing "well not as good as Rogue One or as good as my friend said, but still enjoyable to watch", or ..."well my friend was right and many people agree, even better than force awakens."
either way, what you guys think of it?
Remember, NO NOOOOOOOOOOO NO spoilers
Tickets here aren't that much for person, like 12 dollars a person. More than a subscription to an MMO seeing that a sub lasts 30 days. And I'll probably see it anyway even if responses in this thread are negative, it be something nice for me and my wife to do together and get out of the apartment to do stuff.
But going in with knowing "well not as good as Rogue One or as good as my friend said, but still enjoyable to watch", or ..."well my friend was right and many people agree, even better than force awakens."
either way, what you guys think of it?
Remember, NO NOOOOOOOOOOO NO spoilers
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You might have a point. Actually I think you do. I think that i know why as well. It struck me as odd at the time mildly not to the point that it drufg me personally out of the story. I wouldnt go as far as you though, The actor choice for young Anakin was horrible and so was the dialogue in those OTHER movies. So I would go that far for those.
As for Eps. 1-3, these movies are rated PG-13, this limits how evil the plot can be. I also suspect the writers can't imagine the kind of evil that is possible out there. So thy can't possibly be expected to write about the Dark Side.
For instance, if Anakin was interested in preventing the death of Padmé. Why not have him practice trying to save the life of someone, the only way a Sith could? By killing hundreds or thousands of innocents and failing. He could have used Clone Troupers, he had thousands and they were treated as expendable. This was meant to be a like take on the level of dark people may have wanted or expected in the fall of Anakin. I kept my description minimal so as not to offend everyone.
I feel the only problems with the prequels, is that the Dark Side audience wanted to see more dark. But they must realize that the nature of the production would prevent that. They consider Rogue One to be the best Star Wars movie because of what happens to all the heroes in the end.
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The Last Jedi was the only Star Wars movie that had me feeling angry when I left the theater. I was forgiving to some of the other SW movies that have been lackluster. But none of them had me feeling angry with what I just freaking saw. Only TLJ did that.
This anger wasn't solely due to a key thing happening with a certain character. There are a lot of pointless things in this movie, and the way the story unfolds makes every character coming out looking like godd*mn idiots. At least half of the evens in this movie could have been avoided. You'll know what I'm talking about when you see this movie. The unfolding story is so stupid, I was embarrassed for the Star Wars Franchise.
This movie also gets one of the singularly most embarrassing things I have ever witnessed in a Star Wars production, just as bad as the Star Wars Christmas Special: Space Leia or Super Leia.
If you do go see the flick, try not to bust out laughing or scream, "What the f**k is that!!!" in the theater when you see *that* scene.
This movie is filled to the brim with characters.
Terrible characters.
Pointless characters.
Disappointing characters.
Unrecognizable characters from what they were before.
Lastly, if you don't want to take the word of this random guy on an internet message board, take a look at this warning from the reviews of this movie on Rotten Tomatoes. The critics adore this movie with 93% rating. But audience reviews are at 56%.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)
Otherwise....nope. It took me about 10 minutes to settle on a word to describe the movie. I normally walk out of the theatre and immediately say "that was great!" or something similar, but this time I was literally speechless for about 10 minutes.
I finally settled on "retarded"
I would rate The Last Jedi as the worst Star Wars movie so far. I started another thread with my issues about the movie if you want to read it. Its not as if my expectations were too high either, I'd deliberately avoided all trailers, forums, discussions, articles etc about the film so I was going in blind.
To me, the story felt completely unimpactful. I think it suffers from a similar issue that some superhero films do - it's a series of "cool scenes" glued together. You know that you need to have Spider-Man swing around a lamp post to kick over a car, glide under a railway bridge to catch a train about to derail, or have a super heroine jump from a rooftop to land on one knee with her cloak gracefully following.
All of the recent Star Wars movies did it, but in this one it's too obvious. After The Force Awakens, I left the cinema thinking "This is pretty cool, they recreated the first movie." After this one, I was really disappointed. I had hoped the movie would return back to unpredictable nuanced story telling, but instead it felt like any other generic Sci-Fi movie.
Don't get me wrong, it's not a terrible movie. Just for a Star Wars fan, it does not necessarily uncover any new interactions you haven't seen before. Even the prequels, which most people didn't enjoy, did create huge new chunks of the Star Wars universe. They felt very different to the original trilogy. These new canon movies seems to lack any of that.
I am cautiously optimistic about the next non-trilogy one. Rogue One was a bit more creative in terms of the broader story, so perhaps the next one will let them take a bit more liberty beyond gluing cool scenes together.
So what did I think of The Last Jedi? I don't know, I haven't seen it. And I probably never will.
It's one of the better films in the series according to everyone I know who isn't a rabid frothing at the mouth fanboy. Most people I know who aren't butthurt about the EU getting removed from canon like all three of the recent films.
Don't let other people form your opinions for you. Watch and decide for yourself.
@Warmaker too late to spare us your bleeding scientific heart (sorry), but of all the wild artistic licenses Star Wars takes "*that* scene" may actually be closer to reality in some ways than you think (minus "The Force" of course):
It's definitely not *good* for one's survival prospects, but it may not be the instant death you imagine.
I know, it goes against my intuition, too. Just remember Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (the book), 2001: A Space Odyssey, and Titan: After Earth.
Story wise, I agree it may have been a missed opportunity considering real life events. /shrug
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