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Why do (some) people complain about PvP in BDO?

TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
in Black Desert Online
Its open world pvp at a certain level

However...

Never once been killed in PvP, but maybe thats cause I don't farm the popular areas. But some people make it out they are killed everywhere all the time. But I usually run all over the map exploring and doing random stuff and still never get killed lol. If I see someone farming somewhere, I farm the same area but I don't take his farm spot...guess some people don't pay attention if someone is there before and then get killed.

But then if you get killed...so?

its better to die in pvp than pve

No exp loss, no item loss (except crystals, not a big deal) no durability loss...nothing...

Even I, the most care of carebears, an ultimate ultra carebear, the best carebear, no one is a better carebear than I am believe me I know what is best about being a carebear, I have a bigger carebear rainbow button than any other carebear, in fact my worst enemy has the tiniest carebear rainbow button that doesn't even work, mine actually works, enjoys BDO PvP lol.

I hate deathmatch pvp MMOs, but BDO does it in a way where its the first sorta sandbox MMO that isn't hardcore PvP lol.

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  • DragnelusDragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503
    I think some = most :open_mouth:

  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    DMKano said:
    You havent run across a perma negative karma character who will kill you over and over again until you leave the area or change the channel.

    I agreee that PvP death in BDO has no sting (it used to but Kakao nerfed it) so its no big deal.

    The real complaints are about class/gear imbalance.

    Out of 14 classes in BDO only handful are viable in PvP. 

    Its a real problem

    Actually Karma Bombing is frowned upon some guilds don't support it because if ur in a guild their guild can deck on you, however if you leave or are unguilded and they kill you over and over again and then you login to an alt or something and kill them they have a chance to downgrade their gear so it can cost a person whose killing you a lot of money in game.
  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    I think I have been PKed 3 times total and I have been playing since release. 

    Of all the games I have played with Open World PVP I would say Black Desert has the most passive of them all. 
  • Gobstopper3DGobstopper3D Member RarePosts: 970
    I have never played it and have no desire to, but I don't know why people would complain about being killed in an open world PVP game.  They should know that at some point, your going to be forced into it, so why play it if you don't like pvp?
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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    Black Desert isn't a true PVP game, there currently is no good actual PVP worthy games out at the moment except for MOBA, or PUBG everything else sucks that I have played for PVP.

    Sure in BDO you can get together run a node war every so often if you count that as PVP, or just run around flagging and pvp on random people, but true PVP is like Dark Fall, or other similar games that come out in the future, or are in development.

    Let me know if I have missed a true PVP Game besides Albion that is full loot and actual PVP / Player Skill Based?
  • vanderghastvanderghast Member UncommonPosts: 325
    I'm guessing they are annoyed by it because the vast majority of the game is PVE and then suddenly at high levels it's open PVP.  Probably feels a bit bait and switch to most people.

    That said, people are still playing this thing?
  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 3,069
    vanderghast said:
    I'm guessing they are annoyed by it because the vast majority of the game is PVE and then suddenly at high levels it's open PVP.  Probably feels a bit bait and switch to most people.

    That said, people are still playing this thing?
    Lots of people. At prime time almost every server is crowded. The towns are packed and there's always people out and about in the world.
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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    edited January 2018
    Forgrimm said:
    I'm guessing they are annoyed by it because the vast majority of the game is PVE and then suddenly at high levels it's open PVP.  Probably feels a bit bait and switch to most people.

    That said, people are still playing this thing?
    Lots of people. At prime time almost every server is crowded. The towns are packed and there's always people out and about in the world.
    Yup, even on the actually rare NOT crowded servers (almost never see those at peak) there are people everywhere. Its also always a top seller in the MMO genre on steam. Partly cause its so cheap on sale, but even non-sales it does well.

    And there are always tons of people on every channel everywhere you go. 

    You can see...

    http://steamcharts.com/app/582660

    one of the most played MMOs on steam if not the most played as far as MMOs go. Of course, that is steam numbers. That doesn't factor in (nor factor in other steam hosted MMOs like ESO) the non-steam versions of BDO and other MMOs that can be played off steam.

    But looking at steam numbers for BDO, that is pretty good I think. And actually seeing people everywhere in game, its really popular.
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  • Viper482Viper482 Member LegendaryPosts: 4,099
    Love BDO....but the pvp is the worst I have ever played in a MMO.
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  • btdtbtdt Member RarePosts: 523
    Rhoklaw said:
    No one will ever complain about PvP as long as it's fair and balanced and actually makes sense and isn't about mindless killing via maniacal sociopath standards aka griefing / ganking. The problem with BDO, even though some will deny it, is that despite being limited on the amount of coin you can make by selling cash shop items on the market, it's still a means of acquiring the best gear. If you can outbid everyone on items on the marketplace, than you are guaranteed to roflmaostomp anyone else. It's a proven fact gear = win in both BDO and ArcheAge. It's barely even about skills anymore with the amount of gear disparity these games have.
    The gear argument gets tossed around a lot.  Seems to me it would be a no-brainer then... acquire said gear and then you're back on even footing.

    But then we know this is not the case as there are far more imbalances than just gear.  

    True PVP has nothing to do with balance or fairness.  Never did.  It's about besting your opponent by any means necessary, fair or unfair.  If that means 10v1, so be it.  You bested your opponent.  People talk about PVP as if chivalry was involved. 


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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    edited January 2018
    Its open world pvp at a certain level

    However...

    Never once been killed in PvP, but maybe thats cause I don't farm the popular areas. But some people make it out they are killed everywhere all the time. But I usually run all over the map exploring and doing random stuff and still never get killed lol. If I see someone farming somewhere, I farm the same area but I don't take his farm spot...guess some people don't pay attention if someone is there before and then get killed.

    But then if you get killed...so?

    its better to die in pvp than pve

    No exp loss, no item loss (except crystals, not a big deal) no durability loss...nothing...

    Even I, the most care of carebears, an ultimate ultra carebear, the best carebear, no one is a better carebear than I am believe me I know what is best about being a carebear, I have a bigger carebear rainbow button than any other carebear, in fact my worst enemy has the tiniest carebear rainbow button that doesn't even work, mine actually works, enjoys BDO PvP lol.

    I hate deathmatch pvp MMOs, but BDO does it in a way where its the first sorta sandbox MMO that isn't hardcore PvP lol.
    Because, if a person is killed in pvp it's a "they had it in for me, they went out of their way to attack me, they went out of their way to make to interrupt what I was doing".

    Additionally, some pvp players just can't keep it in their pants and they will verbally attack you. Interesting enough, and from my experience, a good many (not all) will cry like a little child if you give them as good as you got.

    There is an investment of the personal for some people. If they can only learn to separate themselves and just hit "return to town" or wherever, they would do much better. Or, get yourself in pvp shape and try to take them on.

    That's why I got so high in Lineage 2, there was a perma-red player (not a bad guy actually) named EvilSeed who killed me 3 times. So I worked on my character and worked and pretty soon I was not easy meat on the siege field or in world pvp but I still worked and worked so I would be "uber ready" and then he got banned and I never exacted my revenge.

    the end.

    A real lesson for our times. :'(
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  • TalulaRoseTalulaRose Member RarePosts: 1,247
    edited January 2018
    I have never heard anyone complaining about being killed in pvp in game myself. Not sure where the poster is getting this info from. Maybe he heard one person and saw one post and went all they are taking away my guns crazy.

    Everything you do in BDO is to upgrade your gear or acquire in game money just because.
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