My only expectation is for a game to fun. I am not seeing that here.
I think that's something one experiences.
Playing Baseball is more fun than watching Baseball. I imagine that can be said for a lot of things, video games included.
Or better said, there are things going on when one plays that might not be apparent by just watching.
Quite true. Generally, if it's a game that's hectic enough to be highly watchable, it's going to be very action-oriented. Dark Souls combat looks terrible when you don't have the controller on hand, and it's still an action-oriented combat system. Seriously, the rest of the mobs just stand there while you calmly pull your sword out of their buddy's chest?
Strategic combat systems are much less enjoyable to watch than they are to play. I.e. XCOM.
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I'm going to be as productive as possible here... Game looks great, combat looks awful. If that game was released tomorrow I would not buy it, if it released with combat still looking like thst I would not buy it.
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Combat is underwhelming, if the devs don't improve combat by moving on from the 1990's the game will fail and until devs that are in-tune with 2018 to make an MMOPRG we won't see anything good for a while.
At least they're showing some game play, rough though it may be, at a very early stage unlike other crowdfunded indie MMOs that started a much longer time ago that just talk the talk.
Keeping my eye on this one.
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I guess Crowfall is my last hope for a Western mmo.
Meh is all I can say about Crowfall. I know some people say it's not all about graphics when it comes to MMOs, but for me it's just harder to take serious and get immersed in an MMO game that looks like Wizards 101.
Battle Royale? sure bring on the silliness, MMOS are just a different type of game for me. It can have the deepest crafting system ever, and if looks like Dora the Explorer Online I won't touch it. Have fun though.
The main criticism has always been the combat, from the start, and yet it seems like they're not listening when it comes to that because it's still the same combat many have disliked since the very first video showing it.
You for sure have not played they game so thats one strike, second, you probably like the typical flashy korean trash combat like BDO where you can't see a damn thing past all the massive explosions and bright lights That shit is barely tolerable solo, and a complete seizure inducing mess in a group.
There is nothing wrong with tab target, I'll take that and more than 6 buttons on my hotbar anyday over the console port crap thats been coming out lately.
The main criticism has always been the combat, from the start, and yet it seems like they're not listening when it comes to that because it's still the same combat many have disliked since the very first video showing it.
You for sure have not played they game so thats one strike, second, you probably like the typical flashy korean trash combat like BDO where you can't see a damn thing past all the massive explosions and bright lights That shit is barely tolerable solo, and a complete seizure inducing mess in a group.
There is nothing wrong with tab target, I'll take that and more than 6 buttons on my hotbar anyday over the console port crap thats been coming out lately.
Well I will say not a huge fan of BDO combat, to an extent that I feel it's messy at times and all those combos you never end up using feel pointless and do a lot of the same things with a different flourish. I guess it's really no different than having a skill bar with 50 skills when you only use 5 of those at anytime in older MMOs, only difference is you gotta remember key combos in BDO.
It seems that lots of people like that stuff apparently, and BDO is doing well on Steam so consider me impressed. I think the game appeals to people who mostly play console games and prefer it over tab targeting and ping pong combat systems as they call it. It really boils down to preference at this point. I myself like hybrid tab target games these days, as long as you can swap out skills.
The main criticism has always been the combat, from the start, and yet it seems like they're not listening when it comes to that because it's still the same combat many have disliked since the very first video showing it.
Cant say i agree. Ive seen massive differences between pax east -> family alpha -> pax west.. wether its enough to make it decent at release is a different story tho, i agree
Ugh, fast travel. This is what killed WoW for me and this game isn't even launched, lol. The whole theory of, let's not make players travel back home because they've already seen the environment on the way here is just anti immersive. My argument would be, if you could teleport home from the quest item than why not just teleport to the quest item from home? :::rolls eyes:::
Quite sure thats just for the demo.. unless im wrong the entire idea is that you have to walk home aka, have a chance to get fucked by highway men. Not sure tho.. there has at least been quite a bit of backlash on that teleporting so not sure wether even if they wanted to put it in.. not sure if they will after the reactions :P
The main criticism has always been the combat, from the start, and yet it seems like they're not listening when it comes to that because it's still the same combat many have disliked since the very first video showing it.
You for sure have not played they game so thats one strike, second, you probably like the typical flashy korean trash combat like BDO where you can't see a damn thing past all the massive explosions and bright lights That shit is barely tolerable solo, and a complete seizure inducing mess in a group.
There is nothing wrong with tab target, I'll take that and more than 6 buttons on my hotbar anyday over the console port crap thats been coming out lately.
Well I will say not a huge fan of BDO combat, to an extent that I feel it's messy at times and all those combos you never end up using feel pointless and do a lot of the same things with a different flourish. I guess it's really no different than having a skill bar with 50 skills when you only use 5 of those at anytime in older MMOs, only difference is you gotta remember key combos in BDO.
It seems that lots of people like that stuff apparently, and BDO is doing well on Steam so consider me impressed. I think the game appeals to people who mostly play console games and prefer it over tab targeting and ping pong combat systems as they call it. It really boils down to preference at this point. I myself like hybrid tab target games these days, as long as you can swap out skills.
Never got the sentiment that old school MMORPGs only used 4-5 abilities. My DAoC Paladain had over 5 chants alone that could be interchanged and twisted, and that's completely separate from his sword and shield styles.
No, the other abilities were merely situational. Nothing wrong with that until devs Nerf the situation into the ground until it no longer really exists (CC, anyone?), which then leaves players going "wtf am I supposed to do with AoE mezz now that everyone is spamming AoE damage?"
My only expectation is for a game to fun. I am not seeing that here.
I think that's something one experiences.
Playing Baseball is more fun than watching Baseball. I imagine that can be said for a lot of things, video games included.
Or better said, there are things going on when one plays that might not be apparent by just watching.
Not for me.
I have been gaming long enough to know if I will like a game from watching it or even just reading about it.
I suspect you can tell whether you like the features of a game. But that's not a guarantee you are going to love it when you finally delve deep.
However, I'll buy it. You are essentially saying you like/loved every game you played. so there's not a game in the game list you played and ended up disliking?
Though maybe that's what you are saying, if you know the features it's sort of a done deal until you try it"?
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Strategic combat systems are much less enjoyable to watch than they are to play. I.e. XCOM.
Not for me.
I have been gaming long enough to know if I will like a game from watching it or even just reading about it.
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These are video games so it will never be a big issue.
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They are a ways away from a beta phase, if we see this in beta, I don't doubt that feedback will dictate how it proceeds.
Keeping my eye on this one.
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Battle Royale? sure bring on the silliness, MMOS are just a different type of game for me. It can have the deepest crafting system ever, and if looks like Dora the Explorer Online I won't touch it. Have fun though.
You for sure have not played they game so thats one strike, second, you probably like the typical flashy korean trash combat like BDO where you can't see a damn thing past all the massive explosions and bright lights That shit is barely tolerable solo, and a complete seizure inducing mess in a group.
There is nothing wrong with tab target, I'll take that and more than 6 buttons on my hotbar anyday over the console port crap thats been coming out lately.
It seems that lots of people like that stuff apparently, and BDO is doing well on Steam so consider me impressed. I think the game appeals to people who mostly play console games and prefer it over tab targeting and ping pong combat systems as they call it. It really boils down to preference at this point. I myself like hybrid tab target games these days, as long as you can swap out skills.
Cant say i agree. Ive seen massive differences between pax east -> family alpha -> pax west.. wether its enough to make it decent at release is a different story tho, i agree
Quite sure thats just for the demo.. unless im wrong the entire idea is that you have to walk home aka, have a chance to get fucked by highway men. Not sure tho.. there has at least been quite a bit of backlash on that teleporting so not sure wether even if they wanted to put it in.. not sure if they will after the reactions :P
Tried it, cant recommend it.
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No, the other abilities were merely situational. Nothing wrong with that until devs Nerf the situation into the ground until it no longer really exists (CC, anyone?), which then leaves players going "wtf am I supposed to do with AoE mezz now that everyone is spamming AoE damage?"
Not looking for a recommend and if you say you cant recommend something saying why would make it a lot more credible.
I will try it for my self when it comes out.
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However, I'll buy it. You are essentially saying you like/loved every game you played. so there's not a game in the game list you played and ended up disliking?
Though maybe that's what you are saying, if you know the features it's sort of a done deal until you try it"?
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I said last hope for a western mmo. Not last hope to pay my Rent or Electric bill.
I never said anything about Crowfalls character models so where did you get "awesome"? Don't make stuff up.
Crowfalls character models are 100 times better than this.