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It's Not a Perfect Game, But It's a Lot of Fun - Warhammer 40K: Inquisitor Martyr Review - MMORPG.co

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imageIt's Not a Perfect Game, But It's a Lot of Fun - Warhammer 40K: Inquisitor Martyr Review - MMORPG.com

Inquisitors, ominous mysterious agents relentless in their pursuit of Chaos, heresy, rebellion, betrayal, or any threat to the Imperium of Man. They are among the most powerful and feared figures in the entire galaxy. Take on the role of an Inquisitor tasked with uncovering the heretical mystery aboard the ancient monastery-fortress the Martyr. This is our Warhammer 40K: Inquisitor Martyr review.

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,262
    edited June 2018
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  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,777
    Boy did they nail the look of Warhammer. This game sure looks the part for sure. Dark and gritty. What I like is there seems to be a wealthy of content in the game already with obviously more to come. I have it on my wishlist waiting for a good sale. Thanks for the review very well done!
    I agree with them nailing the look. I can tell it's warhammer just from offhand screenshots. It looks awesome. 

    It sounds like the game has the same problem as the Van Helsing games, which honestly were really fun to me, so I will be buying this when I get a bit more money. 
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  • ShinobeShinobe Member UncommonPosts: 91
    They just have to fix the Servers, so that you can play CoOp.
  • XingbairongXingbairong Member RarePosts: 927
    Will probably buy it down the road once I see that they aren't going to abandon it. Otherwise it looks like a decent game, a bit too slow for my taste, but I'd buy it on a sale.
  • jdnewelljdnewell Member UncommonPosts: 2,237
    I took the plunge and bought it as I love all things warhammer .
    They nailed the look, feel and the lore. The game is slower paced than most ARPGs and I had to get used to that. But the slower pace feels right in this setting. It does have a few bugs but overall has ran great for me.
    I would recommend this to warhammer and arpg fans. Just beware it's not poe or d3 where you are speed clearing mountains of mobs.
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  • APThugAPThug Member RarePosts: 543
    edited June 2018
    This is a fairly decent game with lots of content and things to do/collect. The leveling is a bit slow but enjoyable once you find the right build.

    I think the environments aren't that appealing. They tend to all blend into each other and look all the same. Doesn't bother me much though as the gameplay does a good job of moving you along. The game does get faster with time. I believe once you've reached max level or spec more into the movement tree things do get a lot faster. But its a long grind.

    Missions are just the right kind of length too. Overrall, its a solid buy. But I'd still wait for it to get a bit cheaper.
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  • McJer84McJer84 Member UncommonPosts: 15
    I cant help but notice that you wrote the review without hitting endgame or even completing the campaign missions, is that a common practice?
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Thank the Emperor it is "fun". ;)

    I will wait for Adeptus Administratum to do some post launch polish before I buy, but the game seems to have enough gameplay and depth for me to put it on my wish list for now.
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  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    looking forward to playing this game.
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  • APThugAPThug Member RarePosts: 543

    Torval said:


    McJer84 said:

    I cant help but notice that you wrote the review without hitting endgame or even completing the campaign missions, is that a common practice?


    I'm not sure how common it is for other people, but for me if I can finish a game or get to level cap I will. Progress was wiped this last week so I only had 5 days to level and explore all the changes they put in place on release day and level.

    Playing for review is also different than playing for enjoyment which can make it difficult to cap level while also still exploring all the systems. While I did push leveling, and got to 18, I also played on Hard and Extreme whenever possible to earn Glory and unlock rewards with that system to see how it works. I also got stuck for a day on a tower defense mission to protect your Adeptus Mechanicus. That was thing was brutal and it took me an entire day to figure out my way past it. In hindsight I probably should have dropped down to Story Mode difficulty so I could barrel past it.



    It also doesn't help that leveling in this game is pretty slow. I'm thinking it'll take around 40-50 hours plus to reach max level. Not including everything else the game has to offer. But thats more than enough time I think to come up with a good enough conclusion on whether you want to continue or not.

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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    They say max level will take 75 hours, for sure not doable in just 5 days  :D

    Me? I love that it takes longer, much to do too.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • KnaveSkyeKnaveSkye Member UncommonPosts: 137
    "Warhammer 40K: Inquisitor Martyr places you in the role of an Imperial Inquisitor tasked with investigating a strange message from the Marty"

    Given how far in the future the game is set, i'm sure there is a clever Back to the Future joke to be made here...i lack the wit to create one.
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  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,523
    edited June 2018
    If you love warhammer 40k then this would be a great game for you.  Right now though I would say hold off on picking it up if you want to play with others.  They are working on it but might be a little while before it is up to speed.  Single player you shouldn't have any issues.

    They are having the first live event starting today in just a little bit.  Endgame content hasn't been released yet, it will be a couple weeks I think they said.  If you look at the community hub on steam they had a lay out of how they plan to add new content to the game over the month few months in one of their post.

    Leveling is extremely slow but not to bad, one of the things I like.  Just playing normally an not trying to do some of the major exploits like some have done I have a 48 crusader and a 21 pysker right now.

    It is very repetitive as any ARPG, but it isn't a loot pinata either.  Don't expect to see shiny loot dropping left and right.  A lot of people have given it bad reviews basically because it isn't Diablo 3 which it never set out to be, so take the reviews with a grain of salt.  It does have some issues but they have been patching away fixing things left and right.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    For some quicker feeling/gameplay I recommend going dual blade assassin. Warp in with an attack, hit target with marks and remove them with bonus damage finisher. Easy peasy, even better with a grenade and invisibilty loadout to get nice up and close for maximum pain and proper positioning. It ain't D3 but its got a nice flow to it, combat is very solid.

    I think a good description of the game would be: 100% WH40K, 60% ARPG, 75% quality

    I must ad that the pace with which they have improved the game since early alpha (I played that too) is astounding, it was a complete and utter mess and they turned it around at lightning speed, very, very promising for the future.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    [Deleted User]Octagon7711
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050
    I'm keeping an eye on it but the combat is slow and they need to do a LOT of work on endgame. I've read their plans for a month from now but don't think they can improve it enough for me to buy unless it's less than $30
  • cmacqcmacq Member UncommonPosts: 331
    I find it interesting that so many people's comments reflect on the price and they'll buy it when it gets cheaper. I just don't get that. The game has issues but it's a lot of fun in a lot of ways if you like ARPGs and the WK40 universe. Gaming is by far the cheapest form of entertainment in my life so what's another $20? That's not even a round of drinks in most places. There are so few games of this type out there that personally I feel I want to support them. I bought the game in early access way back when at full price and was happy to do it. FYI I played Van Helsing so have some familiarity with Neocore. I think they're in it for the long haul and the game will continue to improve. In the meantime I'm having a lot of fun with it. D3 is in maintenance mode, I don't care for POE, and I'm kind of burnt out on Grim Dawn. This one is now my goto ARPG.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    edited June 2018
    cmacq said:
    I find it interesting that so many people's comments reflect on the price and they'll buy it when it gets cheaper. I just don't get that. The game has issues but it's a lot of fun in a lot of ways if you like ARPGs and the WK40 universe. Gaming is by far the cheapest form of entertainment in my life so what's another $20? That's not even a round of drinks in most places. There are so few games of this type out there that personally I feel I want to support them. I bought the game in early access way back when at full price and was happy to do it. FYI I played Van Helsing so have some familiarity with Neocore. I think they're in it for the long haul and the game will continue to improve. In the meantime I'm having a lot of fun with it. D3 is in maintenance mode, I don't care for POE, and I'm kind of burnt out on Grim Dawn. This one is now my goto ARPG.
    I think price is a relevant topic here. This is currently the most expensive game in its genre by a wide margin. That's a tough sell, because the vast majority of ARPG's are not worth $50 at all, either because of low production values, low content value, or both. This one might be, but the only way to know that is to purchase it. See the Catch 22?
  • cmacqcmacq Member UncommonPosts: 331

    Aeander said:


    cmacq said:

    I find it interesting that so many people's comments reflect on the price and they'll buy it when it gets cheaper. I just don't get that. The game has issues but it's a lot of fun in a lot of ways if you like ARPGs and the WK40 universe. Gaming is by far the cheapest form of entertainment in my life so what's another $20? That's not even a round of drinks in most places. There are so few games of this type out there that personally I feel I want to support them. I bought the game in early access way back when at full price and was happy to do it. FYI I played Van Helsing so have some familiarity with Neocore. I think they're in it for the long haul and the game will continue to improve. In the meantime I'm having a lot of fun with it. D3 is in maintenance mode, I don't care for POE, and I'm kind of burnt out on Grim Dawn. This one is now my goto ARPG.


    I think price is a relevant topic here. This is currently the most expensive game in its genre by a wide margin. That's a tough sell, because the vast majority of ARPG's are not worth $50 at all, either because of low production values, low content value, or both. This one might be, but the only way to know that is to purchase it. See the Catch 22?



    Oh I hear what you're saying all right. I just disagree. I determine a game's value by what it's worth to me in terms of time invested etc. Doesn't matter if it's $20 or $50 if I play it much in the end it amounts to a pittance per hour. Whether that boils down to 5 cents or 10 the number is so low as to be irrelevant. 18 holes of golf at a decent course can easily be $25 per hour so the comparison is laughable. If we all were only willing to pay $20 for a game then we would not need see titles of this calibre at all. And yet folks will pay full pop for yet another rehash of COD?
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    edited June 2018
    cmacq said:

    Aeander said:


    cmacq said:

    I find it interesting that so many people's comments reflect on the price and they'll buy it when it gets cheaper. I just don't get that. The game has issues but it's a lot of fun in a lot of ways if you like ARPGs and the WK40 universe. Gaming is by far the cheapest form of entertainment in my life so what's another $20? That's not even a round of drinks in most places. There are so few games of this type out there that personally I feel I want to support them. I bought the game in early access way back when at full price and was happy to do it. FYI I played Van Helsing so have some familiarity with Neocore. I think they're in it for the long haul and the game will continue to improve. In the meantime I'm having a lot of fun with it. D3 is in maintenance mode, I don't care for POE, and I'm kind of burnt out on Grim Dawn. This one is now my goto ARPG.


    I think price is a relevant topic here. This is currently the most expensive game in its genre by a wide margin. That's a tough sell, because the vast majority of ARPG's are not worth $50 at all, either because of low production values, low content value, or both. This one might be, but the only way to know that is to purchase it. See the Catch 22?



    Oh I hear what you're saying all right. I just disagree. I determine a game's value by what it's worth to me in terms of time invested etc. Doesn't matter if it's $20 or $50 if I play it much in the end it amounts to a pittance per hour. Whether that boils down to 5 cents or 10 the number is so low as to be irrelevant. 18 holes of golf at a decent course can easily be $25 per hour so the comparison is laughable. If we all were only willing to pay $20 for a game then we would not need see titles of this calibre at all. And yet folks will pay full pop for yet another rehash of COD?
    The problem with dollars/hr as a metric is that, while usually reliable, it doesn't take quality of hours into account (and how can it, as that is a subjective, but important, quality). I'll give a few examples from my own experience. 

    I put about 35-40+ hours in Dynasty Warriors 9, but I did not enjoy a single solitary second of that time. I was desperately looking for redeeming value or fun in this game because I love the Dynasty Warriors franchise as my guilty pleasure. But there was no fun or redeeming value in Dynasty Warriors 9 because it is, without any hint of exaggeration on part, the worst AAA game of this console generation. I would have felt betrayed if it I had been paid to play it. At full retail price, every single aspect of this game was akin to being waterboarded by Hitler. 

    I put roughly 35-40+ hours into Tales of Zestiria. And I hated it. A lot. I wanted to find a redeeming story, characters, and gameplay in this game because I grew up loving the Tales franchise. But unfortunately, Tales of Vesperia was the last true masterpiece from the Tales franchise and Tales of Zestiria is a dumpster fire with a bad story, bad characters, bad gameplay, overcomplicated mechanics, and a terrible difficulty curve. I picked up this title at a deep discount and still felt that I did not get my money's worth - because I hated almost the entire experience until I put the game down in anger and disappointment.


    I have put many hours into Fire Emblem Heroes, a free mobile game on my phone. It's decent. It's a good enough way to spend bathroom & lunch breaks at work. I have, without a doubt, put more time and money into it than into any of the actual Fire Emblem games (my favorite franchise of all time). Does that mean that I consider it to be a better value or a better experience than any of the mainline games? It might be a stretch for me to call it better than the games that I would consider the weak links in the franchise (Shadow Dragon and Echoes: Shadows of Valentia). But it does not by any means hold a candle to the quality of time I spent with Blazing Sword, Sacred Stones, Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn, and Awakening, which I have played for significantly fewer hours than this mobile game.


    Conversely, I bought Bastion a few years back for about $20 (by my estimation). I played it through one time, for a total of about 6 hours. That's not a traditionally high value by the dollars/hr metric. But I loved this game. I adored this game. It made me very happy for that one evening that I played it. I still remember just how much of an impact this game left on me. I got my money's worth several times over.
  • cmacqcmacq Member UncommonPosts: 331
    Well that's all pretty simple for me. I don't put much time into a game if I'm not having fun and it doesn't take me long to figure out if I will have fun or not. I don't do it just to pass time. Life is too short for that.
  • MykellMykell Member UncommonPosts: 780
    Its a good base to build on for an ARPG. It needs work but so did D3 and POE. They totally nailed the setting and im no 40k fan but some of the story mission maps are just amazing to see. Can see myself coming back as long as they add new stuff to play with.

    Crusader 2H axe and multi-melter or flamethrower is fun but and if anyone thinks its slow then roll a Psyker and you can pretty much blow maps up lol.
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  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    Torval said:
    Aeander said:
    cmacq said:
    I find it interesting that so many people's comments reflect on the price and they'll buy it when it gets cheaper. I just don't get that. The game has issues but it's a lot of fun in a lot of ways if you like ARPGs and the WK40 universe. Gaming is by far the cheapest form of entertainment in my life so what's another $20? That's not even a round of drinks in most places. There are so few games of this type out there that personally I feel I want to support them. I bought the game in early access way back when at full price and was happy to do it. FYI I played Van Helsing so have some familiarity with Neocore. I think they're in it for the long haul and the game will continue to improve. In the meantime I'm having a lot of fun with it. D3 is in maintenance mode, I don't care for POE, and I'm kind of burnt out on Grim Dawn. This one is now my goto ARPG.
    I think price is a relevant topic here. This is currently the most expensive game in its genre by a wide margin. That's a tough sell, because the vast majority of ARPG's are not worth $50 at all, either because of low production values, low content value, or both. This one might be, but the only way to know that is to purchase it. See the Catch 22?
    It's not even the most expensive game in the genre. If you mean it can't be played then yes, but most expensive? Hell no!

    Path of Exile is the most expensive if you want a full game experience. It costs hundreds of dollars and is an endless revenue sink. Grim Dawn is $58 for the game plus DLC. Victor Vran is close at $51. You can pick up TQ and the DLC for $40 which is $5 cheaper. You can pick up D3 with DLC for $45 as well.

    It's not overpriced compared to the rest of the genre offerings and is in at least as good condition as Grim Dawn or Victor Vran on release, or other indie titles.

    I get people wanting to wait for polish, and feature love. I don't get people being cheap and unwilling to play or choosing a mediocre experience in a F2P whale driven cash shop game.
    Not sure I understand what you mean by claiming PoE is the most expensive.  Browsing their cash shop, there isn't a drop of gameplay content (i.e. dungeons, unlockable areas, etc.) in there.  There's a shit ton of cosmetics, though.  I get that you value those highly, but that's not nearly the same as locking DLC/expansion content behind the cash shop.

    I've played it casually multiple times, and I've not spent a dime on it.  I don't remember any actual gameplay content as mentioned above that was walled off because I wasn't throwing money.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    If this were just for myself, I'd probably buy it at current price, earlier arguments aside. However, I play ARPGs with a RL friend who is not inclined to play non-f2p games. I will probably buy 2 copies at deep discount.
    MadFrenchie
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    edited June 2018
    Yup, a bit clunky for my taste. People keep saying tactical and slower, but it really just feels sloppy and poorly executed to me.
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    Looking at the Steam reviews, content is the main issue. So... I'm going to wait a bit.

    I feel like I'll enjoy it now but I'd rather wait until it's ready before being done with it.
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