Fractured Early Introductory Video

jahlon · July 2018

Just like anything in life you don't know what you don't know.

Don't know about Fractured? Here's a little bit about it just to show off a touch of the game. It might be enough to get you to want to know more.

benseine · July 2018

@jahlon Why do you say crowdfunding is not a way mmorpgs should be funded? You got burned by wich games then? My biggest burns in mmorpgs where from games that where not crowdfunded:

1. Archeage - sieges not happening after seeing years of cbt beta gameplay of mostly sieges

2. Black Dessert Online - stating game is not p2w, then change cashshop few months after release

3. Bless Online - Again monetization changes and not add features in final release.

If it wasn't for crowdfunding then 9/10 newly announced mmorpgs would still be themapark WoW clones for another decade or two...

Edit: btw, the retail price will be around $30 for a b2p game (and $20 if you get an early bird package on Kickstarter)

RofusEU · July 2018

Crowdfunding is pretty much the only source of MMORPGs at the moment since there are no big game companies taking the risk and making any. Lately we have had just western rereleases of asian games and everyone knows how those turn out to be... I still have hope in crowdfunding

Anyways, it's a pretty nice video

benseine · July 2018

RofusEU said:

Lately we have had just western rereleases of asian games and everyone knows how those turn out to be... I still have hope in crowdfunding

Played my fair share of asian mmorpgs. In my opinion they are all polished turds. Seeing a different approach in games like Saga of Lucimia and Fractured is a welcome change for me.

benseine · July 2018

@jahlon btw, forgot to mention. EQN was a game that you where hyped about, according to your video. That game wasn't crowdfunded either, but started under Sony devellopment, and you could buy acces to it's testing game called EQN Landmark. Then Sony sold their studio to a corporate invenstment bank and that studio got the new name Daybreak Studio's. And under the new management EQN tot cancelled... Now have you seem crap like that with crowdfunded games?

RofusEU · July 2018

benseine said:

RofusEU said:

Lately we have had just western rereleases of asian games and everyone knows how those turn out to be... I still have hope in crowdfunding

Played my fair share of asian mmorpgs. In my opinion they are all polished turds. Seeing a different approach in games like Saga of Lucimia and Fractured is a welcome change for me.

Yup, they can be fun for a while but get boring fast with all the grind. We need something new and interesting

benseine · July 2018

@RofusEU yeah grind + rng + dailies just pisses me off after a while, no matter how beautifull it looks or how fun the combat is. The isnane powergaps in those games are a real turnoff for me aswell.

Indigo3x3 · July 2018

I will definitely be playing this game, after reading all the info about it, most likely going to pledge on kick-starter as well.

jahlon · July 2018

The reason why I think that MMORPG should not be crowdfunded is because the amount of money asked for is never enough to get the company through to launch. Instead, it is an amount of money that is requested to get them through to a certain stage of development.

For example, when it came to Chronicles of Elyria, the amount they asked for was $900,000 but nowhere on their kickstarter was it clearly documented they were going to need more money. Instead, what they said was here:

Image: https://forums.mmorpg.com/uploads/editor/88/55q03tjvdeps.png

Yeah the Landmark thing was a sham as well, so I hear you there. I don't think that SOE would have recovered if they had still be the owners of EQNext and Landmark when they went belly up.

I think there is a certain inherent risk when trying to do a game. Risk vs reward, and too many kickstarters seem to offer too much reward (bonuses) for taking the risk, instead of the companies putting out the game taking the risk.

I think the Fun Pimps behind 7 Days to Die have a good method of what they are doing. They've made a ton of money on a game that's playable in Early Release which is continually getting developed.

benseine · July 2018

@jahlon well I think that is still a better way to go for mmorpgs to show investors a new concept (and not another WoW clone) has the interests of many players. It brings innovation.

Yeah I would prefer the way 7 days to die does it. I can only wish the standard for mmorpg devellopment starts with a playable arena mode. Now that I think of it, that is how Star Citizen did it... almost. Their arena mode came pretty fast... and got many excited... was the MMO part that is taking forever.

jahlon · July 2018

See I disagree with you there.

Look at CoE. They did their kickstarter and basically slammed developers by saying nobody would take the risks they were, and then they wonder why a short time later they can't find a major backer.

IF a game had a good enough concept, then it should be able to draw private backers to get it to a certain development point.

Star Citizen is a good example as well. $150,000,000 raised and still no final game?

benseine · July 2018

@jahlon I knew before crowdfunding was a thing that the development of a WoW clone mmorpg was about 8 years from start to final game. I'm not surprised a whole new type of mmorpg, like Star Citizen, has some troubles down the road and takes that long. I have faith in my unreleased KS backed mmorpgs.

And why is it that Crowfall and Camelot Unchained did got multi million investments? Maybe CoE did do something wrong, but let's see how it plays out. Since mmorpgs usually take 8 years or longer it is a bit too soon to call of crowdfunding for mmorpgs. But I agree it's not a save bet to play a finished game anytime soon.

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Indigo3x3 · July 2018

@blueturtle13 You never know, hopefully they can get last minute exposure.

jahlon · July 2018

I don't think Fractured will hit it this time.

But if they dust off and reengagee they'll get it next time.

benseine · July 2018

@blueturtle13 @jahlon maybe they hit it now the roadmap is known. Posted it here

RofusEU · July 2018

They will hit their goal

ladyrowan2 · July 2018

benseine said:

@jahlon btw, forgot to mention. EQN was a game that you where hyped about, according to your video. That game wasn't crowdfunded either, but started under Sony devellopment, and you could buy acces to it's testing game called EQN Landmark. Then Sony sold their studio to a corporate invenstment bank and that studio got the new name Daybreak Studio's. And under the new management EQN tot cancelled... Now have you seem crap like that with crowdfunded games?

I remember that one. I almost bought into the EQN Landmark. I was very glad I decided to wait once it was cancelled.

ladyrowan2 · July 2018

They are about 72% there. They have a couple of spotlights that are due that people have been asking for on the Crafting and Town management. I'm looking forward to seeing their take on crafting.

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Kajidourden · July 2018

jahlon said:

See I disagree with you there.

Look at CoE. They did their kickstarter and basically slammed developers by saying nobody would take the risks they were, and then they wonder why a short time later they can't find a major backer.

IF a game had a good enough concept, then it should be able to draw private backers to get it to a certain development point.

Star Citizen is a good example as well. $150,000,000 raised and still no final game?

Anyone with a functioning brain could have told you that before backing the game. I'm amazed there were enough idiots to fund it at all, considering how pie-in-the-sky their ambitions were.

benseine · July 2018

@jahlon checked the blog about crowdfunding? Pretty much what I said

Baumhauer · July 2018

I hope they will hit their goal.

RofusEU · July 2018

Baumhauer said:

I hope they will hit their goal.

So do I and hopefully they reach all of the stretch goals they just revealed. If not during KS then during the crowdfunding on their website once that opens

Chimborazo · July 2018

They're a bunch of italian guys that live and work really close to me, I wish them all the luck in the world. Don't know if I'm gonna pledge, I've never given money for a kickstarter and I'm not totally sold on the game concept. I could pledge money just to help out, but there's a thousand living creatures that are in greater need of my money

benseine · July 2018

@Chimborazo KS nearly complete, so np, they'll make it

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