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Albion Online - Merlyn Update Arrives - Let the Battle Begin! - MMORPG.com

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edited August 2018 in News & Features Discussion

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With the arrival of the Merlyn update to Albion Online, players can now ride out on the warpath. The new Faction Warfare system should bring some new experiences to players, as rival groups vie for control of the game world. But that's not all that Merlyn brings. Keep reading!

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    How is Albion Online doing? Good to know as it keeps us in tune with indie MMO's generally?
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    Scot said:
    How is Albion Online doing? Good to know as it keeps us in tune with indie MMO's generally?
    Best comparison I can make it Wildstar; since they both have basically single servers.  In that regard, it's more populated than Wildstar and is actually receiving great updates like this one fairly regularly.

    On the topic of this patch; I all but brushed the game aside a while back because of the way everything centered around one place economically and otherwise.  This patch should address that fairly well.  We will see how it works in practice but on paper it makes the game world more dynamic for sure. 

    I think the only reason I'm not playing it today is my time is limited and being in a guild with regular PvP events (the main attraction of the game) requires flexibility I just don't have right now.
    JamesGoblinScot
  • kolok13kolok13 Member UncommonPosts: 4
    i got to ask , is it still a grind fest? , i dont realy have the time to be grinding for hours and feeling im just wasting my time.
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    kolok13 said:
    i got to ask , is it still a grind fest? , i dont realy have the time to be grinding for hours and feeling im just wasting my time.

    I don't understand this question?  It's a usage-based skill system.  If you don't like those then avoid; as that will never change.

    You're not going to get gobs of xp for doing fetch quests and skipping text....
    JamesGoblinScotpostlarvalThunder073kinkyJalepenoOzmodanGdemami
  • kolok13kolok13 Member UncommonPosts: 4








    kolok13 said:


    i got to ask , is it still a grind fest? , i dont realy have the time to be grinding for hours and feeling im just wasting my time.





    I don't understand this question?  It's a usage-based skill system.  If you don't like those then avoid; as that will never change.

    You're not going to get gobs of xp for doing fetch quests and skipping text....






    I think what Kaji is trying to say is you still have to treat it like a full time job to compete/progress.



    yeah wish sucks in the end , irl job is enough job , hard to see any fun in the game at all.
    Thunder073Ozmodan
  • BloodDiimondBloodDiimond Member UncommonPosts: 26
    Change to full drops except gear and it'll be a good game imo. Has so many of the things that are fun but always running around in your nerfed shit sucks ass!!
  • Cuppett5Cuppett5 Member UncommonPosts: 156
    The game is doing well and this update really helps the outer towns from Carleon. The game is still grindy but once you get to tier 4 you can still go out in the world and PK with your guilds and contribute so it's not that bad if you don't have all the time in the world to level up your gear. I'm having a great time playing it at the moment. See you in Albion!
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030








    kolok13 said:


    i got to ask , is it still a grind fest? , i dont realy have the time to be grinding for hours and feeling im just wasting my time.





    I don't understand this question?  It's a usage-based skill system.  If you don't like those then avoid; as that will never change.

    You're not going to get gobs of xp for doing fetch quests and skipping text....






    I think what Kaji is trying to say is you still have to treat it like a full time job to compete/progress.



    Oh, well if you mean you won't be max level in less than a week and geared with BiS in a month then you're right.

    You also won't be stuck on a gear treadmill every couple of months for a .001% upgrade though.
    Octagon7711
  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726


    kolok13 said:


    i got to ask , is it still a grind fest? , i dont realy have the time to be grinding for hours and feeling im just wasting my time.


    I don't understand this question?  It's a usage-based skill system.  If you don't like those then avoid; as that will never change.

    You're not going to get gobs of xp for doing fetch quests and skipping text....

    I think what Kaji is trying to say is you still have to treat it like a full time job to compete/progress.
    Oh, well if you mean you won't be max level in less than a week and geared with BiS in a month then you're right.

    You also won't be stuck on a gear treadmill every couple of months for a .001% upgrade though.
    Seriously?  I don't mind grinding a bit, but this game is over the top in that respect.  It has a lot of other issues that won't be fixed by this patch either.  Still, a very niche game that appeals to the population they have.  Not my cup of tea though.
    [Deleted User]GdemamiOctagon7711
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    edited August 2018
    Based off what I hear "SOLO PVP" was ruined, and "True Ganking" was nerfed by the developers, as well as the game mostly feeling like a Moba.

    The Censorship by devs, threats to ban people for Laborer Journal, and worst CSR I've ever seen even when they admit they maybe wrong but don't resolve issues is enough to say this update in my opinion is pointless until they can clear up their reputation.

    Honestly if your looking for PVP better off playing Conan Exiles, buying Monster Hunter World, or just waiting for Crow Fall, ARC Fall, or even "Fractured" the game companies seem to have more sense when it comes to what a "True Sandbox is" and freedom to trade in a game without having to worry about "4.5.1 was my trade of equal value" or SBI may terminate your account.

    As for the Economy, there is no "Free Trade" because of Rule 4.5.1, and Arche Age feels more like a true crafting game and a Sandbox to me than Albion ever did.
    [Deleted User]KajidourdenGdemamiNepheth
  • AOTalionAOTalion Member UncommonPosts: 1

    Renoaku said:

    Based off what I hear "SOLO PVP" was ruined, and "True Ganking" was nerfed by the developers, as well as the game mostly feeling like a Moba.



    The Censorship by devs, threats to ban people for Laborer Journal, and worst CSR I've ever seen even when they admit they maybe wrong but don't resolve issues is enough to say this update in my opinion is pointless until they can clear up their reputation.



    Honestly if your looking for PVP better off playing Conan Exiles, buying Monster Hunter World, or just waiting for Crow Fall, ARC Fall, or even "Fractured" the game companies seem to have more sense when it comes to what a "True Sandbox is" and freedom to trade in a game without having to worry about "4.5.1 was my trade of equal value" or SBI may terminate your account.



    As for the Economy, there is no "Free Trade" because of Rule 4.5.1, and Arche Age feels more like a true crafting game and a Sandbox to me than Albion ever did.



    Hello Renoaku,

    Albion Online is a sandbox game that features a player-driven economy. As such, we do not restrict trade in any way, except for exchanges involving real money or other out-of-game assets, which is done to ensure a level playing field for all our players.

    Your account has been caught for a blatant third-party currency transaction incident back in March of 2017, when you have received a large sum of currency from a known third-party gold seller.

    We also do not appreciate you creating multiple accounts to spam our forums and support tickets making threats and calling our employees nazis. We are not in favour of censorship, but we will continue to remove posts of such nature.

    -Talion
    [Deleted User]FearumRenoakumgilbrtsnforcelimapostlarvalklash2defNepheth
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    That's bad, if you do something illegal of course they will ban you. But I don't think calling out people on the boards is a great idea too, so no "Welcome to the boards!" for AOTalion.
    postlarvalNepheth
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Torval said:
    Scot said:
    That's bad, if you do something illegal of course they will ban you. But I don't think calling out people on the boards is a great idea too, so no "Welcome to the boards!" for AOTalion.
    This team isn't the height of professionalism. They're not the worst offenders, but these guys come across a lot more like college interns to me than a serious gaming company.
    Go back to basic forum etiquette, naming and shaming people who cannot prove either way what has happened is damnably poor.
    [Deleted User]Renoaku
  • cagancagan Member UncommonPosts: 445
    It is runescape with better graphics but buy to play... same grind, same gameplay.
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157

    AOTalion said:



    Renoaku said:


    Based off what I hear "SOLO PVP" was ruined, and "True Ganking" was nerfed by the developers, as well as the game mostly feeling like a Moba.





    The Censorship by devs, threats to ban people for Laborer Journal, and worst CSR I've ever seen even when they admit they maybe wrong but don't resolve issues is enough to say this update in my opinion is pointless until they can clear up their reputation.





    Honestly if your looking for PVP better off playing Conan Exiles, buying Monster Hunter World, or just waiting for Crow Fall, ARC Fall, or even "Fractured" the game companies seem to have more sense when it comes to what a "True Sandbox is" and freedom to trade in a game without having to worry about "4.5.1 was my trade of equal value" or SBI may terminate your account.





    As for the Economy, there is no "Free Trade" because of Rule 4.5.1, and Arche Age feels more like a true crafting game and a Sandbox to me than Albion ever did.






    Hello Renoaku,



    Albion Online is a sandbox game that features a player-driven economy. As such, we do not restrict trade in any way, except for exchanges involving real money or other out-of-game assets, which is done to ensure a level playing field for all our players.



    Your account has been caught for a blatant third-party currency transaction incident back in March of 2017, when you have received a large sum of currency from a known third-party gold seller.



    We also do not appreciate you creating multiple accounts to spam our forums and support tickets making threats and calling our employees nazis. We are not in favour of censorship, but we will continue to remove posts of such nature.



    -Talion



    I don't really come here to talk about this game much anymore because I realize it's in my opinion a dead game, but I still read about this game from time to time and the so called updates it'se getting while the biggest changes that need to happen are with the "Customer Service" and "Company running the game" IMO.

    You just said that you don't restrict trade, but obviously this can't be true, because in the Rules of the Game, or Terms OF Use, or Conditions it says 4.5.1, you can't trade without anything of equal value in return on your risk getting terminated from the game.

    ** Respectfully no other MMORPG game out there, even those in development I named** has a rule like this in their Terms OF Service because it's a "True Sandbox" meaning you won't get banned or account Terminated just for trading in a game.

    The comapny accused my account of being involved with a "Real Money Trading Transaction, but actually has no hard evidence to back it up other than "In Game Logs" which again do not prove anything, being in a Beta test, and accepting a "Trade, or Investment" in good faith that the transaction is legitimate from a group of friends isn't a violation of the rules especially when the group you played with played Arche Age with you for over a year, and to be honest I know it's ignorant, but I do not always look at the players name or logs of a person who is trading with me especially if they are on "Voice Communications" such as discord outside of the game.

    A reputable company would not Terminate a users account just for "Trading" in a "Sandbox MMORPG" that allows trading, and I don't blame SBI for "Gold Sellers" being there no one should have to deal with cheating scumbags, bots, and fraud, but as a "Consumer" or just a "Customer" of a game who backed the game for 3 years with (ZERO INFRACTIONS) should not have their account kicked out of a game for Life just because someone else did something they should not have, but everyone should have been made aware that people were commiting acts of "Fraud" and "Cheating" in Albion Online so perhaps I myself could have watched my trades and transactions more closely in the first place.

    Censorship, I am not going to use the *N* word on these forums because it's really rude, but your company claims not to support censorship, this is actually a lie and i've got proof to back this up.

    https://imgur.com/a/VHdQitC Evidence of Censorship, one of those is someone elses post, one of them is mine, I do not see anyone calling anyone the *N* word here, but then I guess a ban without issuing a valid reason from a "Steam" discussion, and for the post talking about Laborer journals, and 4.5.1 and how it has effected people, as well as allowing third party investments on your own forums with certain players being allowed (Is censorship worthy.)

    But hey, you know the best part is when "Sandbox Interactive" blocks your email, and suddenly you got a handfull of pissed off friends, and one of them sends a support ticket, and gets a response that "Evidence is reviewed, but it's not always accurate" which means very well that I could be telling the truth about it, perhaps I did trade with someone in the game who violated the rules, but there is absolutely zero evidence of a "Real Money Transaction" with the person who did the trade.

    I don't really care for the game anymore, because "Crow Fall" is about to be released a way more reputable game ill be playing and the chances of getting banned from a "True Sandbox Game is really small unless you actually break the rules, given "SBI is the only comapny to enforce an Equal Trading Rule / Policy in their user agreement.

    I strongly feel the complaints are valid, and the company should try to address / resolve issues instead of just brushing things off in a very unprofessional way, because with the snapshots I've logged, even on Reddit speaking to people on r/MMORPG, the moderators did not believe the censorship of Albion Online, but once I showed them the Snapshots, and evidence they now leave the posts alone, and don't lock such claims anymore.

    So by all means please feel free to either.

    A.) Refund my money so I can give it to a more reputable company, because my product was never delivered as promised and falsely terminated over another users illegal activity.

    B.) Give me the account back, and get some real evidence of "RMT" becuase hey you accuse me of it, and chances are I am going to do it again right.

    C.) Do nothing, and back to square one every single day every time someone asks about the game, and hey you all can ban a person from "Steam Discussions" You cannot ban negative reviews on a product, or comments, and you know all that appears on the Google Search Engine.

    Or perhaps the biggest issue of all is why SBI made it so easy for these lame ass gold sellers to come into the game in the first place committing fraud and illegal acitvities, rather than using a "Secure Payment Processor" like "Steam" or "XSOLLA" to help prevent people from doing this, and having Gold to Silver was just a really bad idea to begin with.

    How can you blame a player for lacking knowledge in Fraud going on in a game, or illicit activity if they don't even know about it and are just paying the game.

    ** Please fix the game, I await new patches to address all the actual issues with the game people are complaining about, and a account fix.**

    And sorry for the long wall of text, but it turns out I have "Autism" in Real Life...
    Fearum[Deleted User]forcelimaGdemamipostlarval
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    edited August 2018
    Misquote.
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030

    AOTalion said:



    Renoaku said:


    Based off what I hear "SOLO PVP" was ruined, and "True Ganking" was nerfed by the developers, as well as the game mostly feeling like a Moba.





    The Censorship by devs, threats to ban people for Laborer Journal, and worst CSR I've ever seen even when they admit they maybe wrong but don't resolve issues is enough to say this update in my opinion is pointless until they can clear up their reputation.





    Honestly if your looking for PVP better off playing Conan Exiles, buying Monster Hunter World, or just waiting for Crow Fall, ARC Fall, or even "Fractured" the game companies seem to have more sense when it comes to what a "True Sandbox is" and freedom to trade in a game without having to worry about "4.5.1 was my trade of equal value" or SBI may terminate your account.





    As for the Economy, there is no "Free Trade" because of Rule 4.5.1, and Arche Age feels more like a true crafting game and a Sandbox to me than Albion ever did.






    Hello Renoaku,



    Albion Online is a sandbox game that features a player-driven economy. As such, we do not restrict trade in any way, except for exchanges involving real money or other out-of-game assets, which is done to ensure a level playing field for all our players.



    Your account has been caught for a blatant third-party currency transaction incident back in March of 2017, when you have received a large sum of currency from a known third-party gold seller.



    We also do not appreciate you creating multiple accounts to spam our forums and support tickets making threats and calling our employees nazis. We are not in favour of censorship, but we will continue to remove posts of such nature.



    -Talion



    Hahahahaha I love that they called them out like this. Well done.
    Fearum[Deleted User]RenoakumgilbrtsnforcelimapostlarvalNepheth
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    edited August 2018

    AOTalion said:



    Renoaku said:


    Based off what I hear "SOLO PVP" was ruined, and "True Ganking" was nerfed by the developers, as well as the game mostly feeling like a Moba.





    The Censorship by devs, threats to ban people for Laborer Journal, and worst CSR I've ever seen even when they admit they maybe wrong but don't resolve issues is enough to say this update in my opinion is pointless until they can clear up their reputation.





    Honestly if your looking for PVP better off playing Conan Exiles, buying Monster Hunter World, or just waiting for Crow Fall, ARC Fall, or even "Fractured" the game companies seem to have more sense when it comes to what a "True Sandbox is" and freedom to trade in a game without having to worry about "4.5.1 was my trade of equal value" or SBI may terminate your account.





    As for the Economy, there is no "Free Trade" because of Rule 4.5.1, and Arche Age feels more like a true crafting game and a Sandbox to me than Albion ever did.






    Hello Renoaku,



    Albion Online is a sandbox game that features a player-driven economy. As such, we do not restrict trade in any way, except for exchanges involving real money or other out-of-game assets, which is done to ensure a level playing field for all our players.



    Your account has been caught for a blatant third-party currency transaction incident back in March of 2017, when you have received a large sum of currency from a known third-party gold seller.



    We also do not appreciate you creating multiple accounts to spam our forums and support tickets making threats and calling our employees nazis. We are not in favour of censorship, but we will continue to remove posts of such nature.



    -Talion



    Hahahahaha I love that they called them out like this. Well done.
    This is unprofessional, by all means ban, by all means say people are being banned, but you don't name individuals. I assume if the game account is linked to the forum account they would be banned there too, that's fine, but naming an shaming individuals who cannot tell their side or in this case prove it is wrong.
    postlarval
  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    Scot said:

    AOTalion said:



    Renoaku said:


    Based off what I hear "SOLO PVP" was ruined, and "True Ganking" was nerfed by the developers, as well as the game mostly feeling like a Moba.





    The Censorship by devs, threats to ban people for Laborer Journal, and worst CSR I've ever seen even when they admit they maybe wrong but don't resolve issues is enough to say this update in my opinion is pointless until they can clear up their reputation.





    Honestly if your looking for PVP better off playing Conan Exiles, buying Monster Hunter World, or just waiting for Crow Fall, ARC Fall, or even "Fractured" the game companies seem to have more sense when it comes to what a "True Sandbox is" and freedom to trade in a game without having to worry about "4.5.1 was my trade of equal value" or SBI may terminate your account.





    As for the Economy, there is no "Free Trade" because of Rule 4.5.1, and Arche Age feels more like a true crafting game and a Sandbox to me than Albion ever did.






    Hello Renoaku,



    Albion Online is a sandbox game that features a player-driven economy. As such, we do not restrict trade in any way, except for exchanges involving real money or other out-of-game assets, which is done to ensure a level playing field for all our players.



    Your account has been caught for a blatant third-party currency transaction incident back in March of 2017, when you have received a large sum of currency from a known third-party gold seller.



    We also do not appreciate you creating multiple accounts to spam our forums and support tickets making threats and calling our employees nazis. We are not in favour of censorship, but we will continue to remove posts of such nature.



    -Talion



    Hahahahaha I love that they called them out like this. Well done.
    This is unprofessional, by all means ban, by all means say people are being banned, but you don't name individuals. I assume if the game account is linked to the forum account they would be banned there too, that's fine, but naming an shaming individuals who cannot tell their side or in this case prove it is wrong.
    He did tell his side though.  
    [Deleted User]

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Scot said:

    AOTalion said:



    Renoaku said:


    Based off what I hear "SOLO PVP" was ruined, and "True Ganking" was nerfed by the developers, as well as the game mostly feeling like a Moba.





    The Censorship by devs, threats to ban people for Laborer Journal, and worst CSR I've ever seen even when they admit they maybe wrong but don't resolve issues is enough to say this update in my opinion is pointless until they can clear up their reputation.





    Honestly if your looking for PVP better off playing Conan Exiles, buying Monster Hunter World, or just waiting for Crow Fall, ARC Fall, or even "Fractured" the game companies seem to have more sense when it comes to what a "True Sandbox is" and freedom to trade in a game without having to worry about "4.5.1 was my trade of equal value" or SBI may terminate your account.





    As for the Economy, there is no "Free Trade" because of Rule 4.5.1, and Arche Age feels more like a true crafting game and a Sandbox to me than Albion ever did.






    Hello Renoaku,



    Albion Online is a sandbox game that features a player-driven economy. As such, we do not restrict trade in any way, except for exchanges involving real money or other out-of-game assets, which is done to ensure a level playing field for all our players.



    Your account has been caught for a blatant third-party currency transaction incident back in March of 2017, when you have received a large sum of currency from a known third-party gold seller.



    We also do not appreciate you creating multiple accounts to spam our forums and support tickets making threats and calling our employees nazis. We are not in favour of censorship, but we will continue to remove posts of such nature.



    -Talion



    Hahahahaha I love that they called them out like this. Well done.
    This is unprofessional, by all means ban, by all means say people are being banned, but you don't name individuals. I assume if the game account is linked to the forum account they would be banned there too, that's fine, but naming an shaming individuals who cannot tell their side or in this case prove it is wrong.
    Totally disagree with you.  Renoaku has been telling his side every since shortly after the incident occurred.  I see nothing wrong with Sandbox Interactive setting the record straight.  There's no reason at all to believe that they aren't on the level and that Renoaku isn't talking out of his ass to blame them for his violation of their policies.  None whatsoever.  There's no motive for Sandbox Interactive to arbitrarily ban players from their game.
    It does not matter if the ban is arbitrary or not, you don't come on a forum to level accusations at people. In this case they could tell their side of the story, but what could they prove? What information do you have about what you have done in games, what you have bought? There is a reason I can hardly think of any MMOs where this has happened, its unprofessional.

    The fact you see no reason to think the company is not on the level is not the issue here, lets say you were fired from work. Would you expect to see your employer commentating about this in forums and social media? When you question what had happened online would you expect a reply online detailing what you are supposed to have done? Maybe you would be told this is being submitted to lawyers unless you desist, but they would not lay the case out against you for all to see.
    [Deleted User]Gdemami
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Scot said:
    Scot said:

    AOTalion said:



    Renoaku said:


    Based off what I hear "SOLO PVP" was ruined, and "True Ganking" was nerfed by the developers, as well as the game mostly feeling like a Moba.





    The Censorship by devs, threats to ban people for Laborer Journal, and worst CSR I've ever seen even when they admit they maybe wrong but don't resolve issues is enough to say this update in my opinion is pointless until they can clear up their reputation.





    Honestly if your looking for PVP better off playing Conan Exiles, buying Monster Hunter World, or just waiting for Crow Fall, ARC Fall, or even "Fractured" the game companies seem to have more sense when it comes to what a "True Sandbox is" and freedom to trade in a game without having to worry about "4.5.1 was my trade of equal value" or SBI may terminate your account.





    As for the Economy, there is no "Free Trade" because of Rule 4.5.1, and Arche Age feels more like a true crafting game and a Sandbox to me than Albion ever did.






    Hello Renoaku,



    Albion Online is a sandbox game that features a player-driven economy. As such, we do not restrict trade in any way, except for exchanges involving real money or other out-of-game assets, which is done to ensure a level playing field for all our players.



    Your account has been caught for a blatant third-party currency transaction incident back in March of 2017, when you have received a large sum of currency from a known third-party gold seller.



    We also do not appreciate you creating multiple accounts to spam our forums and support tickets making threats and calling our employees nazis. We are not in favour of censorship, but we will continue to remove posts of such nature.



    -Talion



    Hahahahaha I love that they called them out like this. Well done.
    This is unprofessional, by all means ban, by all means say people are being banned, but you don't name individuals. I assume if the game account is linked to the forum account they would be banned there too, that's fine, but naming an shaming individuals who cannot tell their side or in this case prove it is wrong.
    Totally disagree with you.  Renoaku has been telling his side every since shortly after the incident occurred.  I see nothing wrong with Sandbox Interactive setting the record straight.  There's no reason at all to believe that they aren't on the level and that Renoaku isn't talking out of his ass to blame them for his violation of their policies.  None whatsoever.  There's no motive for Sandbox Interactive to arbitrarily ban players from their game.
    ..

    The fact you see no reason to think the company is not on the level is not the issue here, lets say you were fired from work. Would you expect to see your employer commentating about this in forums and social media? When you question what had happened online would you expect a reply online detailing what you are supposed to have done? Maybe you would be told this is being submitted to lawyers unless you desist, but they would not lay the case out against you for all to see.
    That's not a fair comparison.  An employer/employee relationship is not analogous to service provider/customer.

    You can say that Sandbox Interactive is unprofessional and I'll not argue that with you because what is and isn't professional is a subjective evaluation, but I stand by my opinion.  I see nothing wrong with Sandbox Interactive publicly calling out libelous garbage being spread about their company on a public forum.
    They can certainly say it is not true and so on, not saying they should not defend themselves. It is when they go into details of the case that they cross the line. And honestly, if a poster on here starts saying that they were banned for the no reason, the first thing I think is that there was a good reason.

    Companies should know that their reputation is hardly being ruined by a random guy on a forum, state it is a falsehood and leave it at that.
    InteritusGdemami
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    Scot said:
    Scot said:
    Scot said:

    AOTalion said:



    Renoaku said:


    Based off what I hear "SOLO PVP" was ruined, and "True Ganking" was nerfed by the developers, as well as the game mostly feeling like a Moba.





    The Censorship by devs, threats to ban people for Laborer Journal, and worst CSR I've ever seen even when they admit they maybe wrong but don't resolve issues is enough to say this update in my opinion is pointless until they can clear up their reputation.





    Honestly if your looking for PVP better off playing Conan Exiles, buying Monster Hunter World, or just waiting for Crow Fall, ARC Fall, or even "Fractured" the game companies seem to have more sense when it comes to what a "True Sandbox is" and freedom to trade in a game without having to worry about "4.5.1 was my trade of equal value" or SBI may terminate your account.





    As for the Economy, there is no "Free Trade" because of Rule 4.5.1, and Arche Age feels more like a true crafting game and a Sandbox to me than Albion ever did.






    Hello Renoaku,



    Albion Online is a sandbox game that features a player-driven economy. As such, we do not restrict trade in any way, except for exchanges involving real money or other out-of-game assets, which is done to ensure a level playing field for all our players.



    Your account has been caught for a blatant third-party currency transaction incident back in March of 2017, when you have received a large sum of currency from a known third-party gold seller.



    We also do not appreciate you creating multiple accounts to spam our forums and support tickets making threats and calling our employees nazis. We are not in favour of censorship, but we will continue to remove posts of such nature.



    -Talion



    Hahahahaha I love that they called them out like this. Well done.
    This is unprofessional, by all means ban, by all means say people are being banned, but you don't name individuals. I assume if the game account is linked to the forum account they would be banned there too, that's fine, but naming an shaming individuals who cannot tell their side or in this case prove it is wrong.
    Totally disagree with you.  Renoaku has been telling his side every since shortly after the incident occurred.  I see nothing wrong with Sandbox Interactive setting the record straight.  There's no reason at all to believe that they aren't on the level and that Renoaku isn't talking out of his ass to blame them for his violation of their policies.  None whatsoever.  There's no motive for Sandbox Interactive to arbitrarily ban players from their game.
    ..

    The fact you see no reason to think the company is not on the level is not the issue here, lets say you were fired from work. Would you expect to see your employer commentating about this in forums and social media? When you question what had happened online would you expect a reply online detailing what you are supposed to have done? Maybe you would be told this is being submitted to lawyers unless you desist, but they would not lay the case out against you for all to see.
    That's not a fair comparison.  An employer/employee relationship is not analogous to service provider/customer.

    You can say that Sandbox Interactive is unprofessional and I'll not argue that with you because what is and isn't professional is a subjective evaluation, but I stand by my opinion.  I see nothing wrong with Sandbox Interactive publicly calling out libelous garbage being spread about their company on a public forum.
    They can certainly say it is not true and so on, not saying they should not defend themselves. It is when they go into details of the case that they cross the line. And honestly, if a poster on here starts saying that they were banned for the no reason, the first thing I think is that there was a good reason.

    Companies should know that their reputation is hardly being ruined by a random guy on a forum, state it is a falsehood and leave it at that.

    Sorry, I refuse to be sympathetic towards a person being shitty and then getting shittier when they get caught.  Call em out.  They've earned it.
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  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    Scot said:
    They can certainly say it is not true and so on, not saying they should not defend themselves. It is when they go into details of the case that they cross the line. And honestly, if a poster on here starts saying that they were banned for the no reason, the first thing I think is that there was a good reason.

    Companies should know that their reputation is hardly being ruined by a random guy on a forum, state it is a falsehood and leave it at that.
    Well with all honestly, that is because most cheaters in an online game who Aimbot, Hack, Exploit, or RMT actually do this, and in the small cases where people are unfortunate enough to get caught up in such an event sometimes you have a really hard time proving it.

    Take for example false bans from Fortnite & PUBG didn't happen to me, but it did happen to quite a few players at one time due to a mistake in the detection method although they were unbanned.

    The problem with "SBI" as a company is the customer service compared to calling Blizzard and them helping get your hacked or compromised account back, or something you have to jump through many hoops, and the way "SBI" sees it if your transaction linked back to a "Gold Seller" or someone else who did something wrong (Then they will assume you paid real Money for it.)

    Eventhough I read a post here earlier that denies the claims it can be proven with pictures, and that is the problem with "SBI" they put too much information out there that makes it seem like I could be telling the truth, obviously it's impossible to prove from a game company aspect if a person is or isn't unless they talk directly (In game about real money transactions.) 

    With Albion, a guild member, or another player can easily frame another player who accepts trade without equal value in return in other games even if the same thing could happen you likely wouldn't get banned.

    Albion Online is a sandbox game that features a player-driven economy. As such, we do not restrict trade in any way, except for exchanges involving real money or other out-of-game assets, which is done to ensure a level playing field for all our players.


    You can't provide any type of counter evidence explaining your actions because you are already guilty before you are innocent I tried in like 3-4 tickets that kept getting closed, never knew if I was talking to a real manager or not.

    We also do not appreciate you creating multiple accounts to spam our forums and support tickets making threats and calling our employees nazis. We are not in favour of censorship, but we will continue to remove posts of such nature.


    Actually I don't see a banned reason, and I really do not see the "N" word which is really not polite to say, and this is only from my post complaining about 4.5.1, which no other game has, and Albion has yet to update it in like a year since release, as well as the Laborer Journal thing. This happened to other people I can't speak for if they actually said anything offensive, but based off their ban messages they didn't.



    This is still my most favorite one, after I was blocked from the support portal and a lot of members from the gaming communities I am in got upset and started sending them tickets about the ban this was sent to one of them saying "All evidence is reviewed in all cases, but that does not mean it is accurate." Accepting payment in any form is against the Terms and is not negotiable.

    This does depend how you define a payment though, since I am being accused of being a Buyer, I would assume this means freely trading and accepting an offer that came my way (Without the use of Real Money.) SBI claims they don't restrict trades or do anything unlesse real money is involved, but there is absolutely no way for them to tell when "Real Money" is involved, unless a person clearly admits to it in the game.

    Having a system like this leaves Vulnurbility in a game, for example if I am in another guild with another user, talking with osmeone on discord, and I tell another guild member that I am leaving the game I am giving them all my Gold or silver, and instead what I do is use a different IP address and commit fraud giving them everything they think I have from one of my characters on a different account while being logged in at the same time from two different locations.

    The problem is that the guy who belives in good faith I am just helping him out has truly done nothing but in the eyes of SBI, they are guilty of buying for real money, and I am sure given all the exposure it's likely happened to at least one other person.



    No one received a warning until launch of the game not to accept offers from anyone who is offering gifts to other players, this was SBI, threatening people that if they choose to accept mounts or items from other players your account is at risk, even if a player think that another person is just trying to be a kind soul and help a newbie out. In EVE Online I used to give away so much stuff and no one ever got in trouble.

    Rather than resolve the problem by adding limits to keep people from doing this their way out was to blame the players.




    ^ Noted in Patch Notes previously?



    ^ SBI's response to Labor Journals, after smart players played the economy it got deemed and exploit, again players were threatened with suspensions / bans.



    ^ From what the latest game company responded to me when going to back a kickstarter which I missed but yeah Users won't get kicked out for not trading in equal value, and I got a lot more of these from CCP, Crow Fall, Arc Fall, and many other upcoming sandbox games where i've asked the same question before backing the games with pre-orders and stuff.

    So in the public eye generally speaking, when posts like this which are kinda long make it to like Reddit, Steam Reviews, which cannot be censored,  Other games forums asking the same questions, consumer complaint sites yeah go figure True Sandbox games will have more players.

    Honestly, this could have been resolved in a more professional way for real, but without a real "CSR" team that is very unlikely to happen, but I would have been fine playing the game at release with a warning about what was going on and being more careful what offers I take, or just getting a refund of the money I actually spent in the game which leaves the unanswered question below...



    ^ The purchases I made with the company, they claim I purchased gold from a 3rd party, but it makes no sense to why I have 3 gold transactions on "Sandbox Interactive" site, and why I would use a 3rd party service which are never trust worthy given I use "Game Flip" to buy PUBG Codes  4 out of 5 purchase attempts were scams.

    Normally a guilty person would just end up making a new account right and not care especially being a year  + later?
    [Deleted User]Gdemami
  • forcelimaforcelima Member UncommonPosts: 232
    Smdh you are still at this STILL at this. Congrats on your persistence!!! Your dedication seems to borderline madness. 

  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    It is the state of games to day.   I was talking to a friends grandkids the other day and they were both using aimbots in Fortnite.  They thought they were being honorable just using aimbots because so many others were using much more sophisticated cheats.  I did not say anything.  I have to feel for small game companies who do not have the expertise to eliminate all the cheating.  Mistakes are going to be made.  They are not going to admit to them and complaining about the situation is not going to change it.    IMO, there are a lot better games out there, it is not worth the time complaining even if you are in the right.

    Oh and it was totally unprofessional for them to post anything about Renoaku.  Any respect I had for them went down a couple notches.

    [Deleted User]ScotGdemami
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