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Torchlight Frontiers - Max Schaefer On Housing, Pets, Progression and More - MMORPG.com

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited August 2018 in News & Features Discussion

imageTorchlight Frontiers - Max Schaefer On Housing, Pets, Progression and More - MMORPG.com

During Gamescom 2018, our pals Ed and Gareth were able to be among the first to get hands-on time with Echtra and Perfect World’s Torchlight Frontiers - the brand new MMO ARPG based on the Torchlight franchise formerly of Runic Games. They also spoke to studio founder Max Schaefer about many of the finer details of how Frontiers will play - from housing to randomization, progression and gear, day and night cycles and more.

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  • NoxiousBassNoxiousBass Member UncommonPosts: 259
    Looks pretty interesting to say the least.
    TokkenTacticalZombehAriesTiger
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    The gameplay video looks SO good. Very smooth animations, just have to see how responsive it is and what the game will be like at the higher levels.

    The idea of Diablo-style clearing rooms without even having to click is just stupid to me.
    Galadourn
  • meonthissitemeonthissite Member UncommonPosts: 917
    I sincerely hope that they include the engineer or engineer type class. Spider mines and Turrets are the best!
    ThupliRPGeniesomeforumguy
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    meonthissite said:
    I sincerely hope that they include the engineer or engineer type class. Spider mines and Turrets are the best!
    Pretty sure the character building the tracks was an engineer in the video......
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  • aslan132aslan132 Member UncommonPosts: 630

    DMKano said:

    "Monsters and harvestables change on the cycle, and it’s feasible that special in-world events can be built around the time of day as well."

    So everything respawns while you are still in the map - like in other MMO hybrids.

    You cant clear our maps like you can in PoE, Diablo, Grim Dawn and Torchlight 1 and 2 where the only time mobs respawn is on zone entering 

    Respawns are a MMO mechanic to enable multiple players to hunt the same area, but to me this never felt right in ARPGs.





    This could mean just in the overworld, but not in the dungeon instances. Those could still act as they do in TL1 and 2. Which would be fine, and make sense for shared overworld maps.
    Thupliinfomatz
  • GazimoffGazimoff Staff WriterMember UncommonPosts: 225

    DMKano said:

    "Monsters and harvestables change on the cycle, and it’s feasible that special in-world events can be built around the time of day as well."

    So everything respawns while you are still in the map - like in other MMO hybrids.

    You cant clear our maps like you can in PoE, Diablo, Grim Dawn and Torchlight 1 and 2 where the only time mobs respawn is on zone entering 

    Respawns are a MMO mechanic to enable multiple players to hunt the same area, but to me this never felt right in ARPGs.





    Respawns are only in shared areas. Private areas are still clearable as before.
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  • KellerKeller Member UncommonPosts: 602
    I would like to know some more about monetization before getting hyped too much by this interview,
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  • DeadSpockDeadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 403
    edited August 2018
    I don’t understand the hype for this I have TL2 and I don’t like it as much as I like D3 and with Perfect World as publisher it’s even worst.
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  • titanofdoomtitanofdoom Member UncommonPosts: 263

    DMKano said:

    "Monsters and harvestables change on the cycle, and it’s feasible that special in-world events can be built around the time of day as well."

    So everything respawns while you are still in the map - like in other MMO hybrids.

    You cant clear our maps like you can in PoE, Diablo, Grim Dawn and Torchlight 1 and 2 where the only time mobs respawn is on zone entering 

    Respawns are a MMO mechanic to enable multiple players to hunt the same area, but to me this never felt right in ARPGs.





    18k posts, I think you may just need to get some kind of life nubly...
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  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    aslan132 said:

    DMKano said:

    "Monsters and harvestables change on the cycle, and it’s feasible that special in-world events can be built around the time of day as well."

    So everything respawns while you are still in the map - like in other MMO hybrids.

    You cant clear our maps like you can in PoE, Diablo, Grim Dawn and Torchlight 1 and 2 where the only time mobs respawn is on zone entering 

    Respawns are a MMO mechanic to enable multiple players to hunt the same area, but to me this never felt right in ARPGs.





    This could mean just in the overworld, but not in the dungeon instances. Those could still act as they do in TL1 and 2. Which would be fine, and make sense for shared overworld maps.

    It's more than likely exactly what it means.  Don't know why you would automatically assume the least likely interpretation of that information but....*shrug*
    Thupli
  • blamo2000blamo2000 Member RarePosts: 1,130
    This states a lot of things I really like hearing - like a focus on multiple characters and no one character being able to do everything. Even multiple characters of the same class for a different specialty/focus.

    The only thing that has me worried is that I just can't seem to get into an arpg mmo, or any of the ones that have came out so far at least.

    I am definitely looking forward to this game and hope I enjoy it, even though I did not really enjoy Torchlight 1 or 2 for more than a couple hours a piece.
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    Torval said:
    I appreciate that he took time to dance through their definition of MMO and explaining the shared world experience more clearly.

    We'll see how they sell the game. I'm very picky about that these days, because I can be. :lol: I'm not doing revenue stream. I'll do box-fee and DLC, but no cash shops, rmt, loot crates, or microtransactions.
    He already mentions they are exploring cash shop options so I guess you're out of luck.

    "Examples of some item store ideas for Torchlight Frontiers so far include buyable maps that have increased magic find or gold drops. If you group with one player using this map, everyone in the party gets it. Max said it’ll also be possible to earn such maps in game without spending cash."
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  • DavodtheTuttDavodtheTutt Member UncommonPosts: 415
    Aw, this confirms it. The game is nothing like what I thought it would be from watching the intro/teaser trailer. Ah well, long ago I enjoyed a single-player iso game called Freedom Force, so I suppose I might like a multiplayer action iso game.
  • NarmorNarmor Member UncommonPosts: 23
    Thanks for the article, I'd like to know all I can about this game, been waiting for a Torchlight game for years and this one seems to even above what I expected so hoefhopef it'll turn out as it should be: amazing!
  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    edited August 2018

    DeadSpock said:

    I don’t understand the hype for this I have TL2 and I don’t like it as much as I like D3 and with Perfect World as publisher it’s even worst.



    Its the hope of PWE not controlling how this game is put out. Maybe they will just be the publisher and if the game has a box price that could be good. But if it goes straight to a PWE F2P game then it could suck badly. Remember Subnautica was under PWE and had a box price so the it wasn't bad.
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    coretex666 said:
    Game looks interesting, but the hint at monetization already discourages me a bit.

    "Examples of some item store ideas for Torchlight Frontiers so far include buyable maps that have increased magic find or gold drops."
    I don't think there's any PvP planned, right?  If not, I don't think those items are game-breaking.  It affects party members, so as a fellow player who doesn't purchase them, you can still get the benefits for free simply by grouping with folks who have them.
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    edited August 2018
    Game looks interesting, but the hint at monetization already discourages me a bit.

    "Examples of some item store ideas for Torchlight Frontiers so far include buyable maps that have increased magic find or gold drops."
      I would hold off and wait on judging this to harshly , it sounds like the same exact Mapworks mechainic from Torchlight 2 , which really is not such a big deal you can get maps with different mods on it for gold , I would assume that they would implement the ability to get them with in game currency as well ..
     
      If similar to The Mapworks its not really a big deal at all

      From want ive seen so far they are taking T2 upgrading graphics/engine  adding coop multi player similar to Drakensang ..

      A Cosmetic shop would serve them well ala POE

     
  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    edited August 2018
    Scorchien said:
    Game looks interesting, but the hint at monetization already discourages me a bit.

    "Examples of some item store ideas for Torchlight Frontiers so far include buyable maps that have increased magic find or gold drops."
      I would hold off and wait on judging this to harshly , it sounds like the same exact Mapworks mechainic from Torchlight 2 , which really is not such a big deal you can get maps with different mods on it for gold , I would assume that they would implement the ability to get them with in game currency as well ..
     
      If similar to The Mapworks its not really a big deal at all

      From want ive seen so far they are taking T2 upgrading graphics/engine  adding coop multi player similar to Drakensang ..

      A Cosmetic shop would serve them well ala POE

     
    Didn't he also say you can earn the maps in game from mob drops too?
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Hariken said:
    Scorchien said:
    Game looks interesting, but the hint at monetization already discourages me a bit.

    "Examples of some item store ideas for Torchlight Frontiers so far include buyable maps that have increased magic find or gold drops."
      I would hold off and wait on judging this to harshly , it sounds like the same exact Mapworks mechainic from Torchlight 2 , which really is not such a big deal you can get maps with different mods on it for gold , I would assume that they would implement the ability to get them with in game currency as well ..
     
      If similar to The Mapworks its not really a big deal at all

      From want ive seen so far they are taking T2 upgrading graphics/engine  adding coop multi player similar to Drakensang ..

      A Cosmetic shop would serve them well ala POE

     
    Didn't he also say you can earn the maps in game from mob drops too?
    After another read over yes ,, yes he did ..

    "Max said it’ll also be possible to earn such maps in game without spending cash."

  • TacticalZombehTacticalZombeh Member UncommonPosts: 430
    I'm starting to get more interested. Loved the original TL's. PvE, encouraging alts, pets... sounds pretty good so far. Because it's PvE there's no real P2W worries, and the cash shop initially sounds ok in a 'use-it-or-not' sort of way.
    Worth keeping an eye on.
  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    TacticalZombeh said:
    I'm starting to get more interested. Loved the original TL's. PvE, encouraging alts, pets... sounds pretty good so far. Because it's PvE there's no real P2W worries, and the cash shop initially sounds ok in a 'use-it-or-not' sort of way.
    Worth keeping an eye on.
    It will depend upon the implementation.  If there's player goals that include grinding exorbitant amounts of resources like gold, then it's a poor implementation because it hamfistedly tries to open your wallet to nickel and dime.


    The fact that the buff is shared with party members leads me to believe, at least at this time, that there's consideration being given to ensure the game doesn't punch you in the face every time you login with the need to spend more cash on microtransactions.

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  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    Man i still play T2 modded with some of the coolest classes. I wish they would do something like player contest to let modders create classes for the game.
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050

    DMKano said:

    "Monsters and harvestables change on the cycle, and it’s feasible that special in-world events can be built around the time of day as well."

    So everything respawns while you are still in the map - like in other MMO hybrids.

    You cant clear our maps like you can in PoE, Diablo, Grim Dawn and Torchlight 1 and 2 where the only time mobs respawn is on zone entering 

    Respawns are a MMO mechanic to enable multiple players to hunt the same area, but to me this never felt right in ARPGs.





    My favorite zone in Marvel Heroes was constantly respawning mobs and bosses and I had no issue with it.
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,386
    HOUSING !!!!! Yes sold.
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