For a moment I thought I was watching BDO. What's so special about this video?
That has nothing with BDO, even with the BDO before awakening, when the combat was much better than now. That Bless looks pretty impressive with doge, blocks, back-stabs, almost like a DS game. Probably they struggled to make it multiplayer.
I don't know what you are on about. The Warrior in BDO could Dodge, block, and backstab. And that in the video looks like a Warrior to me.
In fact what showed in the video is how I played my Warrior pre-awakening. Most people didn't even know he could dodge or that hitting mobs on the back gave extra DPS bonus, so they never bothered, but they were quick to compling the Warrior sucked. When I tried to explain to them in the forum how they should play him (exactly like in that video), they could not understand why I dodged with a Warrior (to hit mobs on their back and avoid getting hit) and kind of laughed it off. They were adamant that they ought to be able to steamroll everything in full frontal attack, like other classes. Eventually they got it.
When Warrior got the Awakening, and Dodging was not an option anymore, I ditched the Warrior. I don't like one button classes, and I missed my dodge dance around the mobs.
It is maybe how looks the warrior in your dreams, but for sure not in BDO. As you see the block is not a skill here. The back-stab is not a skill too. Warrior never sucked in BDO, I have a warrior, and no one could beat me. Mobs? Why to hit them, in BDO they die when they see a player
You are probably one of those that jumped on the Warrior train once he got the Awakening and became overpowered, I am sure you have no experience in the previous incarnation. Probably you were playing a Sorceress or a Wizard before. So I am not surprised. I played Warrior since day one and the first 6 months there were floods of tears in the forums with people complaining the Warrior sucked and didn't do as much damage as the other classes. I am pretty sure about it as I was the only one claiming he didn't suck and got lot of backlash for it.
Warrior could dodge, block and back stab (Not a skill per se, but after dodging I would hit mobs on their back, that counts as a backstab). Don't force me to download 60 gigabytes of game just to record a video and show you how a pre-awakening BDO Warrior can do the same moves as the Warrior in that video.
That looks good. I hope it runs this smooth at launch. Because The PC Bless still runs like utter shit. I tried it again a couple nights ago and only noticed arbitrary improvements since launch. Will this get a PC launch as well eventually? I don't have an xbox1 so maybe I'm just out of luck.
I played with warrior since CBT2 in Korea till the awakening. Then uninstalled BDO.
But you never played the Warrior, until he got the awakening, I am sure of that. Because if you say that a Warrior with sword and shield in BDO can't do the same stuff that warrior in the video, it means you haven't played him. Simple as that.
Learn to dodge and block. This is honestly the most key. You will get the hang of it so just keep practicing.
BTW,
pro tip - not sure if it works with warrior, but with valk, if you hold
"s" which is backwards while ur getting hit, you will instantly sheild
block the attack and future incoming attacks
"Q"
will pull up the shield when in combat mode, if you don't want to (or
can't) backpedal. (It makes you sit down when not in combat, so be sure
you swing with LMB or press tab to unsheathe your weapons first!)
yes,
I know this lol, but holding backwards is a better way to do it as you
can't be moving and hit Q. You have to stop moving and hit Q to sheild,
otherwise walking backwards is just easier and quicker
Lots
of talk here about stacking DP, but dodging and block is 100x more
important. Even if you have DP in every slot a high-end pack is still
going to destroy you if you cant avoid some of the damage in the first
place.
If you read the last comment, what tells you is that the majority of Warriors (90%), only stacked DP, they didn't even know Warriors could dodge, or understand the importance of it. The rest of us (10%), were the ones that could solo Sausans at 54, while the rest of them cried on the Forums, demanding for more DPS, or begging to get a group.
When a Warrior Dodged in PVE, he would NEVER get hit, zero damage. Not many knew that. I barely used any potions at all, while others were drinking like there was no tomorrow. I could dance back and forth while a group of 10 mobs tried to hit me and never got hit. Unless I was too slow pushing the button.
Like the first poster said, it was demanding, I think I got carpal syndrome because of it, but it was hella fun.
I played with warrior since CBT2 in Korea till the awakening. Then uninstalled BDO.
But you never played the Warrior, until he got the awakening, I am sure of that.
Dude, do you understand English. I played that game in Korea and Russia, before you even know about it, probably.
It's not that I don't understand you, it's just that I don't believe you, because it's clear that you don't know what a pre-awakening warrior could do, I even quoted other people in my previous post, but you still insist.
Who uses potions in BDO? Read 2016 BDO forums, and you will know who (Warriors). Who could not clear Sausans at 54? Read 2016 BDO forums, and you will know who (Warriors). Who was crying because Warriors were under powered?
Read 2016 BDO Forums, and you will know who (Warriors).
At the start it was full with L2 players. Then only the solo noobs stayed. You can doge in BDO, but it is in general useless, as you do not avoid the hits in PvP.
Thanks for finally admitting it. And never said that Dodging was effective in PvP, it was in PvE though as you could 100% ignore damage. But the actual point is: I commented that the Warrior in this video looked like BDO Warrior (pre-awakening), and you said he didn't look anything like that, because this one could "dodge, block and backstab".
I replied that BDO Warrior could do exactly the same, in fact the video shows how I played my BDO Warrior (90% of warriors didn't do that, preferring frontal attack and dying when got hit by 10 mobs at once). But you said BDO Warrior couldn't do that.
Now after going back and forth, you are admitting he could do those things but were useless. Even though in PvE were very useful, if you wanted to kill groups of 10 mobs at once, unless you were happy killing mobs one by one.
Blocking 10 mobs did shit, and frontal DPS was really poor when the Warrior launched in EU/NA, so you had to dodge to avoid the barrage and blast them on their back which gave between 50% to 100% DPS bonus because it ignored Armor.
Have you noticed that Mobs in BDO can actually block? Well they can't block if they face the other way, that's why you hit them on the back, to maximize damage, and that's why dodging was so important. Other classes didn't need to do that, but since Warrior DPS was poor, Warriors had to do it (though 90% didn't).
WTF person is you to call me liar? Why you are talking about BDO here? Also this is the game with the most lame mobs ever. It is ridiculously easy. One combo and 10-20 mobs die. Why you dodge? As with the combo you make the last hit behind them. Warrior did not have poor DPS, and with the combos it had pretty good AoE. I played BDO in CBT2 in Korea, why should I read what some noobs write about the game?
First of all chill.
Second, it's you that called me liar by stating that what I said wasn't true.
The difference between me and you is that I am actually supporting my claims (read my last 2 posts), while you just keep saying, the game is easy, and that warrior could not do that (even though you admitted lately that he actually could do it), and other non sense. Without backing it up.
Posting a picture of your Warrior prove shit. Since I told you that, even if you played it, you were probably in that 90% of players who just used his Warrior with frontal attacks. A lvl 54 Warrior frontal attacks would barely dent a group of Sausans, because his DPS was poor, that's why you had to Dodge and hit them on the back. I told you already twice that hitting mobs on the back gives you between 50% to 100% DPS bonus, that's why you had to dodge. It seems like a damn good reason to me.
Now it seems to me that you actually didn't play the NA/EU version properly, by your own admission.
No boss gear as I see. I had boss in Russia, but there was not a very big difference I think.
Well there was actually a big difference. Maybe you are not aware, but Warrior was severely nerfed for the NA/EU version, and that was one of the main concern on BDO forums, by people who played the Korean or Russian version and confirmed the NA/EU warrior was gimped.
To finish off, it all started by you saying that the Warrior could not Dodge, Block and Backstab, basically saying I was lying. But then you finally admitted that it actually could, but it was useless (irrelevant to the original discussion). So when you complain someone is calling you liar, maybe you should look yourself in the mirror first.
So when you complain someone is calling you liar, maybe you should look yourself in the mirror first.
Dude I never say in BDO you cannot doge. I say that the physics in the video above look like that in Dark Souls, but not BDO. Do you get the meaning. Also why we are talking about BDO here?
Yes you said the DS bit, but obviously my comments were aimed at the first part.
For a moment I thought I was watching BDO. What's so special about this video?
That has nothing with BDO, even with the BDO before awakening, when the
combat was much better than now. That Bless looks pretty impressive with
doge, blocks, back-stabs, almost like a DS game. Probably they
struggled to make it multiplayer.
You said the video has nothing to do with BDO because in the video you can Dodge, Block and Backstab just like DS, implying that in BDO you could not do the same.
And the reason I am talking about BDO, is to explain to you that you actually could, since you were so keen in telling me I was lying (hence why you should look yourself in the mirror first, before accusing someone else of calling you liar). Simple.
You said the video has nothing to do with BDO because in the video you can Dodge, Block and Backstab just like DS, implying that in BDO you could not do the same.
And the reason I am talking about BDO, is to explain to you that you actually could, since you were so keen in telling me I was lying (hence why you should look yourself in the mirror first, before accusing someone else of calling you liar). Simple.
You could not do these things like in DS, and here. If you played DS3, you will know what I'm talking about.
Keep on digging, maybe you will reach China! Warrior in BDO before awakened (56) when you get the Greatsword is very different in terms of gameplay, sure you could stand in front of a mob and hopefully take them down eventually, the Sausans example was a good one because for the warrior its tough to wear them down, unless you dodge and get a few back attacks in for the damage bonuses, if you stand there and just tank it then you will be there all day.
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Looks like it.
Combat reminds me of TERA and this game actually looks really good.
What's so special about this video?
The Warrior in BDO could Dodge, block, and backstab. And that in the video looks like a Warrior to me.
In fact what showed in the video is how I played my Warrior pre-awakening.
Most people didn't even know he could dodge or that hitting mobs on the back gave extra DPS bonus, so they never bothered, but they were quick to compling the Warrior sucked.
When I tried to explain to them in the forum how they should play him (exactly like in that video), they could not understand why I dodged with a Warrior (to hit mobs on their back and avoid getting hit) and kind of laughed it off.
They were adamant that they ought to be able to steamroll everything in full frontal attack, like other classes.
Eventually they got it.
When Warrior got the Awakening, and Dodging was not an option anymore, I ditched the Warrior.
I don't like one button classes, and I missed my dodge dance around the mobs.
after fail, in each region of the world, we aim at each region of the world... console version this time !! after they will go to mobile, mark my word
Probably you were playing a Sorceress or a Wizard before.
So I am not surprised.
I played Warrior since day one and the first 6 months there were floods of tears in the forums with people complaining the Warrior sucked and didn't do as much damage as the other classes.
I am pretty sure about it as I was the only one claiming he didn't suck and got lot of backlash for it.
Warrior could dodge, block and back stab (Not a skill per se, but after dodging I would hit mobs on their back, that counts as a backstab).
Don't force me to download 60 gigabytes of game just to record a video and show you how a pre-awakening BDO Warrior can do the same moves as the Warrior in that video.
Because if you say that a Warrior with sword and shield in BDO can't do the same stuff that warrior in the video, it means you haven't played him.
Simple as that.
Taken from a Reddit thread:
Learn to dodge and block. This is honestly the most key. You will get the hang of it so just keep practicing.
BTW, pro tip - not sure if it works with warrior, but with valk, if you hold "s" which is backwards while ur getting hit, you will instantly sheild block the attack and future incoming attacks
"Q" will pull up the shield when in combat mode, if you don't want to (or can't) backpedal. (It makes you sit down when not in combat, so be sure you swing with LMB or press tab to unsheathe your weapons first!)
yes, I know this lol, but holding backwards is a better way to do it as you can't be moving and hit Q. You have to stop moving and hit Q to sheild, otherwise walking backwards is just easier and quicker
Lots of talk here about stacking DP, but dodging and block is 100x more important. Even if you have DP in every slot a high-end pack is still going to destroy you if you cant avoid some of the damage in the first place.
The rest of us (10%), were the ones that could solo Sausans at 54, while the rest of them cried on the Forums, demanding for more DPS, or begging to get a group.
When a Warrior Dodged in PVE, he would NEVER get hit, zero damage. Not many knew that.
I barely used any potions at all, while others were drinking like there was no tomorrow.
I could dance back and forth while a group of 10 mobs tried to hit me and never got hit. Unless I was too slow pushing the button.
http://https//www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/49jzdb/how_do_i_stop_taking_so_much_damage_as_warrior/
I even quoted other people in my previous post, but you still insist.
Who uses potions in BDO?
Read 2016 BDO forums, and you will know who (Warriors).
Who could not clear Sausans at 54?
Read 2016 BDO forums, and you will know who (Warriors).
Who was crying because Warriors were under powered?
http://forum.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?/topic/63442-why-wont-cmsdaum-address-warrior/
It doesn't look you played a pre-awakening warrior, not matter your claims.
And never said that Dodging was effective in PvP, it was in PvE though as you could 100% ignore damage.
But the actual point is:
I commented that the Warrior in this video looked like BDO Warrior (pre-awakening), and you said he didn't look anything like that, because this one could "dodge, block and backstab".
I replied that BDO Warrior could do exactly the same, in fact the video shows how I played my BDO Warrior (90% of warriors didn't do that, preferring frontal attack and dying when got hit by 10 mobs at once).
But you said BDO Warrior couldn't do that.
Now after going back and forth, you are admitting he could do those things but were useless.
Even though in PvE were very useful, if you wanted to kill groups of 10 mobs at once, unless you were happy killing mobs one by one.
Blocking 10 mobs did shit, and frontal DPS was really poor when the Warrior launched in EU/NA, so you had to dodge to avoid the barrage and blast them on their back which gave between 50% to 100% DPS bonus because it ignored Armor.
Have you noticed that Mobs in BDO can actually block?
Well they can't block if they face the other way, that's why you hit them on the back, to maximize damage, and that's why dodging was so important.
Other classes didn't need to do that, but since Warrior DPS was poor, Warriors had to do it (though 90% didn't).
Second, it's you that called me liar by stating that what I said wasn't true.
The difference between me and you is that I am actually supporting my claims (read my last 2 posts), while you just keep saying, the game is easy, and that warrior could not do that (even though you admitted lately that he actually could do it), and other non sense. Without backing it up.
Posting a picture of your Warrior prove shit.
Since I told you that, even if you played it, you were probably in that 90% of players who just used his Warrior with frontal attacks.
A lvl 54 Warrior frontal attacks would barely dent a group of Sausans, because his DPS was poor, that's why you had to Dodge and hit them on the back. I told you already twice that hitting mobs on the back gives you between 50% to 100% DPS bonus, that's why you had to dodge. It seems like a damn good reason to me.
Now it seems to me that you actually didn't play the NA/EU version properly, by your own admission.
Maybe you are not aware, but Warrior was severely nerfed for the NA/EU version, and that was one of the main concern on BDO forums, by people who played the Korean or Russian version and confirmed the NA/EU warrior was gimped.
But then you finally admitted that it actually could, but it was useless (irrelevant to the original discussion).
So when you complain someone is calling you liar, maybe you should look yourself in the mirror first.
And the reason I am talking about BDO, is to explain to you that you actually could, since you were so keen in telling me I was lying (hence why you should look yourself in the mirror first, before accusing someone else of calling you liar).
Simple.
Warrior in BDO before awakened (56) when you get the Greatsword is very different in terms of gameplay, sure you could stand in front of a mob and hopefully take them down eventually, the Sausans example was a good one because for the warrior its tough to wear them down, unless you dodge and get a few back attacks in for the damage bonuses, if you stand there and just tank it then you will be there all day.