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I Took Portalarium To Arbitration Court For Supporting Harassment: They Didn't Dare Show Up.

Aron_SwordmasterAron_Swordmaster Member UncommonPosts: 181
The last time I tried to warn you the potential players about the toxic development team of Shroud of the Avatar, this forum banned me for doing so, and that was despite me emailing MMORPG.com a tip off including the police reports I'd had to submit on the lunatic behind the stalking and harassment: which I could further prove Portalarium themselves had been asked multiple times to engage with addressing.

It shouldn't need explaining that naming myself to the UK and US police would not be the actions of someone who actually was doing anything that Chris Spears was attempting to claim had happened.

Today, I have the all the court documents proving what I say, and I have publicly shared them.

And what's more, it's of public interest because despite knowing for the last 2 months I have the documents, Portalarium have ignored the demands of the American Arbitration Association to remove any reference to them in the Shroud of the Avatar EULA.

You aren't covered by the US Arbitration scheme. Portalarium hadn't even paid the fees to lay claim to being part of it in the first place.


And if you think that's a long, exhausting video, imagine going through far more than that for the past two years. And over something as ridiculous as just daring to say a terrible game is terrible, and thus getting in the way of Real Money Traders profiteering and obsessives obsessing.




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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Honestly I think you are buying into drama. Nay, you are investing in drama.

    If they have done something illegal take them to court. If nothing comes of it then move on.

    This seems more about you wanting attention and to be vindicated in a public forum.

    Stop it.
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  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    Im so confused, Can someone explain this to me , Speak as if you were talking to a 3rd grader (which most of you probably already do when addressing me anyway).
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  • Xee2018Xee2018 Member UncommonPosts: 169
    Thanks for sharing hope this makes you feel better about being banned lol.
    Earthgirl
  • Aron_SwordmasterAron_Swordmaster Member UncommonPosts: 181
    Sovrath said:
    Honestly I think you are buying into drama. Nay, you are investing in drama.

    If they have done something illegal take them to court. If nothing comes of it then move on.

    This seems more about you wanting attention and to be vindicated in a public forum.

    Stop it.
    *Looks at the title of this thread*

    *Looks at what you've just written*

    Oh dear...

    But you're right, I do want attention in one sense: The same way Sophie's Law draws attention, or pointing to a beehive near the picnic table is drawing attention.

    Otherwise though... just... just wow. What you just wrote? Maybe go back and think about it, and your ridiculous conclusions about me again?

    GdemamiKyleran
  • Aron_SwordmasterAron_Swordmaster Member UncommonPosts: 181

    OG_Zorvan said:
    You'd think Portalarium not showing up for a lawsuit and found to be fraudulently using an organizations credentials in their EULA, even after being told to cease and desist, would be something mmorpg.com would actually report on.

    Wouldn't you just?

    The second part of the video will be about the difficulties of trying to work through the law, the media, and the self-destructive post-ironic nasty internet to stop harassment even when you know exactly where the details of who someone actually is are held.

    In the case of the media, a few organisations such as Eurogamer were interested right up until the point I got the AAA judgement; only one, different editor actually explained why they suddenly backed off, and that was because the evidence was now too serious, and they didn't want to risk being sued for putting it in the public domain.

    I had to take the personal risk and do it all myself again first, and hope the story then got picked up like Trends on Twitter are now. There's very little actual investigative journalism in gaming media these days...

    I don't know what MMORPG.com's reasoning for wariness is... and I've both emailed in the source documents as a Tip Off, and reminded Red_Thomas by PM I have the evidence if he actually does care about the truth of the development. 

    But hey, if people WANT their games coverage to hide the beehives until they stick their heads in them, well that's where the money is to be made, I guess.  Look at what happens when someone tries, like I'm doing eh...?


    Gdemami
  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    @Aron_Swordmaster If you can spin your plight into some sort of political social injustice I'm sure Kotaku will cover your story. It's all about context man !
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  • Xee2018Xee2018 Member UncommonPosts: 169
    Never understood why anyone would spend the effort or time / money on trying to make a point that they dont like a video game to the point they feel the need to take action.  Seems rather silly.
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  • Aron_SwordmasterAron_Swordmaster Member UncommonPosts: 181
    thunderC said:
    Im so confused, Can someone explain this to me , Speak as if you were talking to a 3rd grader (which most of you probably already do when addressing me anyway).
    At it's simplest;

    1.) Someone on Portalarium's forums is running multiple accounts dedicated to harassing and threatening other users.
    2.) Despite multiple people sharing their reports, someone at Portalarium is protecting this person and nothing is ever done.
    3.) Said user goes beyond the forums and commits crimes against people in real life too.
    4.) In my case, it starts with an email hack, and proceeds to implied rape and death threats directed towards an ex-girlfriend he read about there, followed by years of attempts to gaslight me via sockpuppets (One of said puppets is now in this thread) as well as shut down any account he can find.
    5.) Chris Spears of Portalarium, being fully aware of police reports on this, chooses to try and hurt critical victims by forging claims we had done to him what he knows we have reported to police as happening to us.  This is my first video, above.
    6.) Lunatic behind this all then writes to Portalarium demanding they ban me, and COPIES ME INTO THE CONVERSATION ensuring I can see it.
    7.) Portalarium then does so, and although I keep quiet, he appears around the internet bragging he knows I'm banned from the game because Portalarium tell him they've done so. (Spotted the sockpuppet here yet?)
    8.) Because this is an action covered by the EULA, and clearly based on no evidence, I take them to court.
    9.) Portalarium dare not debate the evidence, and rather than risk a judgement, refuse to respond to any of the summons.
    10.) They get booted from Arbitration, but again knowing I can see the evidence, don't update the EULA despite being ordered to remove any reference to it.

    Even shorter version;

    Portalarium will protect a sociopath stalking and harassing you, if you're critical of the game, will lie and try and defame you as if you're the one doing it, but when challenged to come prove that at Arbitration, won't attend and instead hope you just can't get the story out about what really happened.

    Shorty Short version:

    Harassment is funny; oh shit now we have to argue that in front of adults in court; run away and pretend it never happened.

    Shortest possible version:

    Everything Shroud is shitcakes.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Sovrath said:
    Honestly I think you are buying into drama. Nay, you are investing in drama.

    If they have done something illegal take them to court. If nothing comes of it then move on.

    This seems more about you wanting attention and to be vindicated in a public forum.

    Stop it.
    *Looks at the title of this thread*

    *Looks at what you've just written*

    Oh dear...

    But you're right, I do want attention in one sense: The same way Sophie's Law draws attention, or pointing to a beehive near the picnic table is drawing attention.

    Otherwise though... just... just wow. What you just wrote? Maybe go back and think about it, and your ridiculous conclusions about me again?

    Look, if they've done something wrong take them to court like you should take that individual to court who gave you trouble. Bringing this to a public forum could work against you. I'm pretty sure you can talk to your lawyer, you can talk to another individual for advice but that individual needs to be anonymous.

    If a medical professional needs to be involved then that is also ok.

    Posting all this on a forum is not the way to go about this. So now, if this is all still pending as I could only make it through a few minutes of your video (again, so much nonsense and drama) you should mention to your lawyer that you posted all this on a public forum as well as a youtube video.

    I wonder what Portalarium's lawyers will do once they find out. Good job.
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  • PhaserlightPhaserlight Member EpicPosts: 3,075
    So... I'm at work right now and can't watch those videos, but what sort of action are you seeking?

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  • Aron_SwordmasterAron_Swordmaster Member UncommonPosts: 181
    thunderC said:
    @Aron_Swordmaster If you can spin your plight into some sort of political social injustice I'm sure Kotaku will cover your story. It's all about context man !

    So I don't know if they then got bombarded with nonsense like the above trying to once more gaslight me again, and fell for it, or like Kotaku's normal coverage, just couldn't phrase it as "Blue Haired Lesbians Fight Torch Wielding Neo-Nazis" and decided not to run with it as it wouldn't set off enough culture wars page clicks.

    I'm still in touch with a few other outlets, and some medium level YouTubers were looking at the story; but this is the problem with the internet from the other side, too many people are far too willing to just become internet bullies, or even get angry when it's pointed out there is injustice, and refuse to really look at what's happening... Until the media actually picks it up, it's too easy to just say what you WANT to be the truth and then bully people until they stop trying to state their own experiences.

    Such as, for instance, claiming I should take them to court, when the whole video is about what happened when I did.

    Dealing with people online is bizarre.






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  • Aron_SwordmasterAron_Swordmaster Member UncommonPosts: 181
    Sovrath said:
    Sovrath said:
    Honestly I think you are buying into drama. Nay, you are investing in drama.

    If they have done something illegal take them to court. If nothing comes of it then move on.

    This seems more about you wanting attention and to be vindicated in a public forum.

    Stop it.
    *Looks at the title of this thread*

    *Looks at what you've just written*

    Oh dear...

    But you're right, I do want attention in one sense: The same way Sophie's Law draws attention, or pointing to a beehive near the picnic table is drawing attention.

    Otherwise though... just... just wow. What you just wrote? Maybe go back and think about it, and your ridiculous conclusions about me again?

    Look, if they've done something wrong take them to court like you should take that individual to court who gave you trouble. Bringing this to a public forum could work against you. I'm pretty sure you can talk to your lawyer, you can talk to another individual for advice but that individual needs to be anonymous.

    If a medical professional needs to be involved then that is also ok.

    Posting all this on a forum is not the way to go about this. So now, if this is all still pending as I could only make it through a few minutes of your video (again, so much nonsense and drama) you should mention to your lawyer that you posted all this on a public forum as well as a youtube video.

    I wonder what Portalarium's lawyers will do once they find out. Good job.
    Good god, you actually doubled down on this.

    Incredible.

    Ok, as it needs spelling out to you... I DID TAKE THEM TO COURT. That's what the whole video is about. You're literally trying to lecture me on something you're not even aware has ALREADY HAPPENED.

    "So now, if this is all still pending as I could only make it through a few minutes of your video"

    The time stamps for the structure of the video are underneath it. Everyone in the world can see at what point the legal documents are first shown, if they're honest.

    It's 2m 18seconds.

    Need I say more?


    "I wonder what Portalarium's lawyers will do once they find out. Good job."

    I don't need to wonder, I already know.

    They didn't even dare show up. Because ITS ALREADY HAPPENED.  They're welcome to try again though, now I have even stronger evidence backed up by the AAA's judgement...




    Still, thank you for providing more evidence for Part 2 which will also be about the mindless, casual tendency towards cruelty from the typically disconnected from reality internet poster.

    You see, you don't have to be smart to attempt to gaslight people, because the internet is full of idiots that will try and argue about easily cross checked facts like EVEN THE TITLE OF THIS POST and then smear your mental health whilst they do it, because you must be mad for thinking SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED might be true.

    In modern terms, it's known as Stochastic Terrorism. You just have to say a word and tonnes of other people will wreck their own habitats before stopping to think. Especially if you stop and think. What are you, some kind'er smart man?

    But I'm not going to fall for it; And it's all too late because Portalarium ALREADY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO COURT.

    And didn't dare show up.

    As it says above.

    Good god.


    Gdemami
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    Allegations remain allegations until the judge has pronounced a verdict.

    Nobody reading the OP can tell if it's all fact or fiction, for that you'd have to hear all sides of the story, etc.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780


    Good god.


    Yes, good god, you are a piece of work.

    Look, I'm sorry you had to experience harassment, no one should have to go through it but bringing your dirty laundry is not the way to go about this.

    But whatever, you do you.


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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    Still, thank you for providing more evidence for Part 2 which will also be about the mindless, casual tendency towards cruelty from the typically disconnected from reality internet poster.


    So why are you here if you assign no value to our reactions or input? 
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  • Aron_SwordmasterAron_Swordmaster Member UncommonPosts: 181
    So... I'm at work right now and can't watch those videos, but what sort of action are you seeking?
    Primarily, it's to warn all those considering Shroud they are genuinely not safe if they play it and become critical.

    For myself, I have to put it into public domain in the hopes that the media can then report on it as common knowledge, as they're reticent to cover it for fear of complications for themselves, or in some cases, outright bias towards defending Portalarium.

    After that, my hope is that if the story goes viral, Portalarium will finally realise they can't hide their support of harassment any further, and will take steps to shut it down just to save themselves.

    And THAT has been my goal all along. I know precisely who the lunatic keeps dropping rape and death threats about, and her safety is and always will be more important. And he will not stop, even when he thinks he's silenced me; The video above gives just a sample of what he's done since he was stroking himself off at the thought I was banned originally, including here.

    Quick check of my email security and... yup... proxy attacks from Moldova and the US in the last day. Even just being reminded I still exist sets him off again.

    So he will BE stopped.

    Where it goes after this is a question for myself and my legal support in Texas to discuss privately; but for now, when you accepted the EULA for Portalarium, you originally agreed that you would never go to another court except the AAA, no matter what they did.

    That is now no longer the case, thanks to the action I'm detailing above. I followed their EULA, and then it was voided, because they abused it. So all doors are open now.

    It is my hope I don't have to look at them because if enough attention is generated, the stupidity all stops.

    But I'll take just protecting everyone else from getting dragged into it too.  There's an entire sub-reddit dedicated to those who came before and after me; Shroud of the Avatar Raw.  Hopefully my posts here keeps others safe from similar experiences.
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  • Aron_SwordmasterAron_Swordmaster Member UncommonPosts: 181

    Amathe said:
    Still, thank you for providing more evidence for Part 2 which will also be about the mindless, casual tendency towards cruelty from the typically disconnected from reality internet poster.


    So why are you here if you assign no value to our reactions or input? 
    Why are you personally asking, if you've not been cruel or mindless?

    But I'll give you a straight answer all the same.

    One of the posters here is a sockpuppet of the person doing the stalking and harassment, and has tried, as always, to draw my attention to what he thinks he's achieved.

    Do you think his opinion matters to me? Do you think it should?

    It does not.

    Another user of these forums, and the main booster of Shroud is an RMT who uses knowledge that he posts under the same user name elsewhere to try and ban people for "doxxing" him if they become critical of Shroud. He tried it against user "JamesGoblin" specifically here recently.

    The same user even used his real name on MassivelyOP.com to do the same; it didn't work there because the moderators could see I was just quoting his posts under that real name. But when he and others claim I'm banned at Reddit, this is the dirty trick he used to do it. He reported in knowledge that I was aware of what he was claiming on MassivelyOP.com, whilst lying on Reddit and claiming to have never done any RMT, to say knowledge of that wasn't Reddit based... and thus I'd "doxxed" him.

    When you know that user name, it also turns out he's a real life scammer and stole thousands from people who thought they were donating to charity.

    Should I care what people like him thinks either?

    In this very thread you have people throwing around claims of mental illness because they haven't even watched a video they claim to know all about.

    Should I care what people like that think?


    However not everyone here is going to be like that. It's for THEM I post.

    But it would be foolish to care what those who don't appreciate, can't understand, or are actively malicious in trying to use it to gaslight me think whilst I do what's right.

    So I don't.

    I know it'll then be used by the malicious or just those lacking empathy to say I'm just being arrogant and that justifies their hatred of me and blah blah blah...

    Again, I don't care. You can't expect dwarves to queue for the rack.





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  • Aron_SwordmasterAron_Swordmaster Member UncommonPosts: 181
    Sovrath said:


    Good god.


    Yes, good god, you are a piece of work.

    Look, I'm sorry you had to experience harassment, no one should have to go through it but bringing your dirty laundry is not the way to go about this.

    But whatever, you do you.


    2 minutes 18 seconds.

    Your integrity didn't even last that long; What makes you think your judgement of anything else is even vaguely worthwhile either...?

    When another poster asked why I didn't necessarily care how people reacted, you proved the specifics. Thank you for "doing you".



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  • DracSchniderDracSchnider Member UncommonPosts: 223
    Well I will put my to cents in.   In another thread here you clearly pointed me out as some person with a hidden agenda.  I'm just a player who likes his game and like to point out misinformation that others post or information that is out of date because of fixes. 

    Technically you pointing fingers at me with your statement could have negatively impacted me is that then Slander?  forums on games are where people like to go to find out about the game.  good or bad reviews are fine, however trolling because one doesn't like the game and feels that they need to over voice an opinion is simply trolling for no other reason.   Who in there right mind would spend countless effort to hate a game company just because a video game didn't meet what they expected?  If I had gloves I didn't like I wouldn't wear them and probably throw it out.  I would not be looking at the gloves every day yelling at them and telling people stay away from this brand because I hate the color or how it feels.   


    As to your post anyone can feel harassed,  I am harassed all the time since I posted my review.  Do I care no not really.  I'm just here because I play the game unlike a lot of the guys here that don't who use to bash it constantly.  I don't want to see garbage in a game forum, I want to see what people are doing in a game, what classes they play, things of interest.  Not 50 posts from the same people on how I hate this game. 

    If you got banned from a forum there was probably a reason.  the fact you created more accounts to get back in there means you are there to do the same thing you claim happened to you which is harassing the players and devs.   looking at the video and all the information from all over the place and the fact you state that you are archiving everything said could be considered harassing the company and the developers?  this can go around and around. 

    IMO it would be best to let it go and move on in life then waste your time on a video game.
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  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    Why are you personally asking, if you've not been cruel or mindless?


    So you just knee jerk insult anyone who does not jump on your bandwagon?  Or conclude they are someone who is really your secret stalker or whatever you call them?  Wow. 
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  • Aron_SwordmasterAron_Swordmaster Member UncommonPosts: 181
    Amathe said:
    Why are you personally asking, if you've not been cruel or mindless?


    So you just knee jerk insult anyone who does not jump on your bandwagon?  Or conclude they are someone who is really your secret stalker or whatever you call them?  Wow. 
    Where is the insult for you in that statement?

    It's a rhetorical question, but maybe I shouldn't have phrased it that way because I didn't expect you to then actually answer it as phrased, and yes, actually look for reasons to hate rather than understand.

    The rhetoric being that decent people don't actually do that, it's inherent to decency to spot the statement actually being made and reject it.

    And, the following examples that were all to illustrate that not everyone's opinion is valid. Your question was self-evidentially nonsensical, especially with regards to a 2 year campaign trying to harm my mental health through mechanisms including trying to persuade me everyone thinks I'm mad.

    But if that's the path you want to go down too... I can only ask the same question again; why do you think I would, or even should care if you do?

    And if I did care, would I still be here to warn you all it happens?

    And who would be sensitive to your feelings in turn, when it happened to you?

    Those are also rhetorical questions, by the way, because I find it hard to grasp the kind of logic that expects people to suffer off camera, so you don't personally have to think about it.
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  • Aron_SwordmasterAron_Swordmaster Member UncommonPosts: 181
    Rhoklaw said:
    So you backed a game, didn't like how slow it progressed and then proceeded to ransack their official forums in an attempt to do what? Afterwards, you get hacked by "someone" which you magically know as being a prominent member of Portalarium? So you take them to court and they refuse to even acknowledge your claims by choosing not to attend. So they are no longer able to state in their EULA that they are supported by whatever judicial association you use in your country. Got it.

    Well, SotA is a failure. So I'm not entirely sure that they are going to waste money in court or waste time updating their FAQ / EULA. Thanks for giving us insight into your speculative journey.

    • "The American Arbitration Association."
    • My accent in the video.
    Somewhere out there, there will be someone who will one day be able to help me make sense of the kind of mindset that, when given warning about how they're being mistreated by the games industry, thinks it makes sense to make up fantastical tales about why they're justified in hating the messenger instead...

    Again, I'm just not going to respect people who aren't even able to accurately repeat basic facts and then abuse the person who presented them because of what you think they said; and it's really, really weird so many of you seem to think I should be expected to do so.

    But no, I don't believe nor ever stated "a prominent member of Portalarium" actually was behind the hacks; Just in case people were getting confused by other people who are determined to confuse themselves first.






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