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delete5230
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I for one have a lot of faith in Pantheon.
Where do I get this faith from ?... "Nothing, just a feeling"
What do we know at this point ?
- We have a Web site full of features without anything viewable to the public yet.
People want proof not words.
- Videos showing their class balancing techniques, and improved stages of graphics.
No viewable world, just testing zones.
A large percent of the population has a negative view of this game. It's understandable if it's not their style. You can't please everyone.... The problem is their is no proof of anything. Without proof how can a potential fan be positive ?
They talk about the perception system, but not much put into practice.
They talk about solo, but nothing put into practice.
Not much of the world is visible, only test zones.
Without cities towns crafting stations and NPC's theirs no proof this game is any fun !
After so long words don't carry much weight, actions do !!
How far has this game advanced ?
70, 50, or maybe only 5%... If its kept secret most likely not far. As it stands right now, players could only assume its a remake of EverQuest 1, because that's the only thing players can see.
It's crowed funded and early revenue needs to be generated.
But it's still very early... Light years away.
My opinion,
This team sucks for graphics animation and world design and overall coding. They should stick to ideas and outsource the actual game world to ArenaNet, they can pump out a good stable product. This game will eventually become reality, their just messing around with old technology that was proven to be quirky.
Reference: See Everquest 2 and Vanguard.
Where do I get this faith from ?... "Nothing, just a feeling"
What do we know at this point ?
- We have a Web site full of features without anything viewable to the public yet.
People want proof not words.
- Videos showing their class balancing techniques, and improved stages of graphics.
No viewable world, just testing zones.
A large percent of the population has a negative view of this game. It's understandable if it's not their style. You can't please everyone.... The problem is their is no proof of anything. Without proof how can a potential fan be positive ?
They talk about the perception system, but not much put into practice.
They talk about solo, but nothing put into practice.
Not much of the world is visible, only test zones.
Without cities towns crafting stations and NPC's theirs no proof this game is any fun !
After so long words don't carry much weight, actions do !!
How far has this game advanced ?
70, 50, or maybe only 5%... If its kept secret most likely not far. As it stands right now, players could only assume its a remake of EverQuest 1, because that's the only thing players can see.
It's crowed funded and early revenue needs to be generated.
But it's still very early... Light years away.
My opinion,
This team sucks for graphics animation and world design and overall coding. They should stick to ideas and outsource the actual game world to ArenaNet, they can pump out a good stable product. This game will eventually become reality, their just messing around with old technology that was proven to be quirky.
Reference: See Everquest 2 and Vanguard.
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I did a rewrite. Please re-read the OP
I'll agree, until there is something playable that we all can get our hands on it is not really possible to determine if we'll like it or not.
Watching bits and pieces from streamers of early alpha doesn't cut it.
In my case I won't really know until its fully launched as I feel virtual world MMORPGs are truly a sum of their parts.
I probably will wait 6 months to a year post launch as my current preference is to give devs time to flesh out inevitible early issues and content a bit more.
At first I was going to dismiss your outsourcing idea, isn't often done by western MMORPG teams.
Then I recalled, Ashes of creation stood up a sizable offshore team in like Malaysia or something and it can be extremely cost effective if done correctly. (Like 2 to 3 times less expensive)
So perhaps this could be one way to make limited funds go further and improve graphics and animations. Lots of great artists in Asian made games, just normally in styles I don't much care for.
As for a "large percentage" having a negative view? We here at MMORPG.com forums are a bunch of "Don't Bees," (old Romper Room reference) and if left up to most of us nothing new would ever be made, could ever succeed, or be any fun.
Talk about tiny niches...the posters here are among the tiniest so I would not take what is said here (and certainly not from me) as any sort of ultimate market success or failure predictor.
Just realize, if you make your own predictions posters here will challenge any and all assertions because....that's just what we do here, all part of forum PVP.
Heck, if you stated "tomorrow the sun will come up" @Wizardry would tell you why it will be a lazy effort, @DMKano will say his inside sources know it won't, I'll probably argue against your usage of "come up" and why stating it will "rise from the horizon" is the proper way to say it.
Ignore us all and keep the faith, but most of important...don't invest a lot of money before it launches, or at least not more than you are willing to easily part with.
If you live in the US, Happy Thanksgiving tomorrow.
Cheers.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
Hope your computer can run it, their forums will be loaded with "it will not play" !
My bet is once the crowd funding overhype dies down and people lose attention we will get a few buggy as all hell with place holder combat videos and lots of explanations. Until proven otherwise i take this stance.
Look at Camelot Unchained. You can find gameplay and the head salesman showing it off, despite it looks basic as hell and not even close to beta. Even if that game turns out to suck they have something. People are more likely to fund projects they can see, so they would be showing it off if they had anything that looked professional and quality...which they dont.
Why is this even being debated in 2018? So many developers have done this. Talk big and hope the crowd funding happens so they can actually make the game. I just spent a few hours or boredom going down memory lane and looking at all the games that were just like this and seeing their websites as dead links. All those games started just.like.this. The ones that pulled out and launched into decent games is....hmm...cant think of any off the top of my head...i mean i know star citizen will launch eventually and be at least ok...but other than that...None as far as i can remember.
Come on, dude. I mean...really. Come on.
This game is like 2 years away from launch...of course they don't have a lot ready to show people.
However...even now, they have live streams in the actual world, fighting actual bosses, in actual dungeons. There is more ready to go in this pre-alpha than some games I've seen go into closed beta.
VR has shown us a lot. I am sure they show more as development continues but heck give them time.
What does Everquest 2 have to do with this? No one working on this game had anything to do with EQ2.
As far as Vanguard goes, I think Brad is the only person working on Pantheon that was with vanguard. Vanguard also used a different game engine. I believe it was based off of the Unreal 2 engine. Maybe they had quirky computers.
The difference, I'll not get baited down a rabbit hole were things get ugly.
I'll still give quality service on how thing are.
I'll improve on grammar, and shorten my post.
However I do like telling stories, But they'll be at the end and optional reads.
Chi puo dir com'egli arde é in picciol fuoco.
He who can describe the flame does not burn.
Petrarch