I'm okay with blunted edge graphics so long as the aesthetic is generally pleasing. By that I mean, objects in the environmental appear logically arranged and fit the theme of the environment, and the textures aren't ugly as sin.
I votes top notch . . . But i am liking project gorgon and will pick it up if it goes on a 50% sale at Christmas. Seems like a nice in between PoE game for me.
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I don't expect, or want, an MMORPG MMO to have cutting-edge graphics. I do expect it to be visually appealing and self consistent. A reasonable frame rate (30fps) and that it be well drawn. That's enough for me.
This will sound cold, but 30% vote top notch ? That's 30% selfish, inexperienced dreaming and not thinking about what a true mmorpg is. A vast open world of deep and interesting mystery.
YOU CAN'T have both it's just a fact... This is shallow gameplay thinking.
Graphics dont matter to me at all , its gameplay that makes the difference . some of the best looking games out today have shit and shallow gameplay you dont have to look far , we are surrounded by it..
This will sound cold, but 30% vote top notch ? That's 30% selfish, inexperienced dreaming and not thinking about what a true mmorpg is. A vast open world of deep and interesting mystery.
YOU CAN'T have both it's just a fact... This is shallow gameplay thinking.
So, by your logic, isn't it selfish of you with a lesser computer to disregard those who have invested in great machines so they can have a top notch experience?
What a true mmorpg is? It certainly has nothing to do with every game having to be made for everyone.
Not sure why you felt compelled to put "A vast open world of deep and interesting mystery?"
Amazing graphics and "deep game play" are two different things. One can have shallow game play and still have crappy graphics.
This has to be one of the weirdest posts I've read.
on topic, I prefer the best graphics but can do with middle of the Road graphics if the art design is good.
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I don't care much for graphics as long it fits, and get the job done, but also not that really old thing, example wow is too old for me to even care if it existed once, don't matter how many times they "try" to update it, i'm ok with gw2 graphics though, even anime ones, the real looking ones I do like but I find then tend to get old fast and start to get heavy when you need the most, with in gw2 I never had a issue
This will sound cold, but 30% vote top notch ? That's 30% selfish, inexperienced dreaming and not thinking about what a true mmorpg is. A vast open world of deep and interesting mystery.
YOU CAN'T have both it's just a fact... This is shallow gameplay thinking.
So, by your logic, isn't it selfish of you with a lesser computer to disregard those who have invested in great machines so they can have a top notch experience?
What a true mmorpg is? It certainly has nothing to do with every game having to be made for everyone.
Not sure why you felt compelled to put "A vast open world of deep and interesting mystery?"
Amazing graphics and "deep game play" are two different things. One can have shallow game play and still have crappy graphics.
This has to be one of the weirdest posts I've read.
He's pulling facts out of his weird opinions as usual. Just ignore him.
But it's just so odd!
And can personal taste really be selfish? I mean, it's what one likes/dislikes. No one is being forced to buy a game they can't run or that has an art design they don't like.
Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!
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I am not tied to a particular form of graphics. I care about feeling immersed. I was fine, for example, with WoW graphics (and EQ in its day).
Same here, except WoW graphics originally turned me off. Having a little architecture background (high school studies), the buildings leaned a bit too much for my tastes. However, when I tried again later (BC Expac?) they were acceptable to me then.
EQ I never had trouble with. They were considered "top o' the line" back then (1997), requiring players to invest in a 3D video card to play. Seeing the original graphics now (EQ1999) and they show their age badly.
Then again, I enjoy playing MineCraft, and those graphics are not "top notch" by any stretch
It does depend on the game and setting for me, like you said
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Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
in video games graphics help with immersion a lot, if it is beautiful it will help you greatly to immerse yourself into that world, it is very important in my opinion.
This will sound cold, but 30% vote top notch ? That's 30% selfish, inexperienced dreaming and not thinking about what a true mmorpg is. A vast open world of deep and interesting mystery.
YOU CAN'T have both it's just a fact... This is shallow gameplay thinking.
So, by your logic, isn't it selfish of you with a lesser computer to disregard those who have invested in great machines so they can have a top notch experience?
What a true mmorpg is? It certainly has nothing to do with every game having to be made for everyone.
Not sure why you felt compelled to put "A vast open world of deep and interesting mystery?"
Amazing graphics and "deep game play" are two different things. One can have shallow game play and still have crappy graphics.
This has to be one of the weirdest posts I've read.
He's pulling facts out of his weird opinions as usual. Just ignore him.
But it's just so odd!
And can personal taste really be selfish? I mean, it's what one likes/dislikes. No one is being forced to buy a game they can't run or that has an art design they don't like.
Ahhhhhhhhhh!!!!
It's not odd, You can't have BOTH..... I'm talking about an mmorpg not a game-online. Games-on line are shallow because all resources are put into graphics. 30 days worth of content.
Yes it's selfish to cater to the greater machines people ! No I'm not selfish I have a greater machine.
Whether its heavily cartoonised, anime, cell shaded or photorealistic, i want them to be top notch. I want awesome environments, terrain and weather effects, flora and fauna. Though to be fair i also want music and background 'ambience' sounds etc. to be of the same standard, and the games writing, creative, moving, entertaining. Basically, i want it all
In terms of graphics mmorpgs are doomed to aim as high as possible. The reason is simple, they are projects with a life span of decades, which mean that they need to plan ahead and have an engine that is moddable enough to get constant upgrades. If that is not possible, they need to have an art style that allows for graceful ageing.
Usually, the aim is a combination of both. The better the engine, the less compromises need to be made in the art department.
Think graphics engine as the foundation of a building. They need to be solid enough to withstand expansions and the passing of time.
Don't care about graphics that much, as long as the art is sound. Though I'm not that keen on WoW style tbh. I prefer something more realistic, perhaps something like Vermintide.
So 1st person ESO. Is there any other mmorpg with 1st person and decent graphics?
Cartoon. It ages way better: WoW, Wildstar, Albion, Fortnite, Civ 6, Dauntless, that sort of thing. Still WoW is the best and a WoW 2 would be awesome. I don't like when the landscape is a painting. If you see it, you should be able to get to it somehow. That's the best part of Azeroth.
The worst graphics for me are like EQ2 -- you can see horribly that aged. I don't like figures that look shiny, like plastic or clay.
2D or even 2,5D graphics don't do it for me. We are not in 1999 anymore. Beside that I don't care much for graphics. I must like the art style (e.g. I don't like WoW art style and prefer EQ2'). I also don't like it when graphics get too realistic. We are not there yet but we are getting close to graphics which look like reality. Don't really want to see how someone gets beheaded in reality.
Know why it should matter? Graphics are the very core of a VIDEO game,they help to bring the world to life render objects to look believable/real. Graphics is basically 90% of a game,without them ,you have the engine and empty artwork.If i wasn't so lazy i would load up a simple map and show you what it looks like without the FACE.
IF anyone says graphics don't matter,they are either completely ignorant of graphics or are lying.
yeah i said i was lazy so this is someone else's video.Skip to 40 seconds and you'll see what a blank map and a character looks like with no textures/face,it is NOT what anyone would accept for gaming. Graphics matter 100%. What i feel the OP is actually eluding too is level of detail.This also matters to me because lack of detail does a WORSE job of bringing the visual to life. There are of course several levels of detail,i feel most accept them somewhere in between.I doubt there is a single person that needs 10/10 graphics,well perfect could never be achieved anyhow.
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probably why i favor more cartoonish styles over the realistic approach a lot of people seem to want.
I had fun once, it was terrible.
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That's 30% selfish, inexperienced dreaming and not thinking about what a true mmorpg is. A vast open world of deep and interesting mystery.
YOU CAN'T have both it's just a fact... This is shallow gameplay thinking.
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EQ I never had trouble with. They were considered "top o' the line" back then (1997), requiring players to invest in a 3D video card to play. Seeing the original graphics now (EQ1999) and they show their age badly.
Then again, I enjoy playing MineCraft, and those graphics are not "top notch" by any stretch
It does depend on the game and setting for me, like you said
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
You can't have BOTH..... I'm talking about an mmorpg not a game-online. Games-on line are shallow because all resources are put into graphics. 30 days worth of content.
Yes it's selfish to cater to the greater machines people !
No I'm not selfish I have a greater machine.
The worst graphics for me are like EQ2 -- you can see horribly that aged. I don't like figures that look shiny, like plastic or clay.
ART STYLE is king for me, too.
Beside that I don't care much for graphics. I must like the art style (e.g. I don't like WoW art style and prefer EQ2').
I also don't like it when graphics get too realistic. We are not there yet but we are getting close to graphics which look like reality. Don't really want to see how someone gets beheaded in reality.
Graphics are the very core of a VIDEO game,they help to bring the world to life render objects to look believable/real.
Graphics is basically 90% of a game,without them ,you have the engine and empty artwork.If i wasn't so lazy i would load up a simple map and show you what it looks like without the FACE.
IF anyone says graphics don't matter,they are either completely ignorant of graphics or are lying.
yeah i said i was lazy so this is someone else's video.Skip to 40 seconds and you'll see what a blank map and a character looks like with no textures/face,it is NOT what anyone would accept for gaming.
Graphics matter 100%.
What i feel the OP is actually eluding too is level of detail.This also matters to me because lack of detail does a WORSE job of bringing the visual to life. There are of course several levels of detail,i feel most accept them somewhere in between.I doubt there is a single person that needs 10/10 graphics,well perfect could never be achieved anyhow.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.