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5 Things We'd Like to See in Diablo 4 - The List - MMORPG.com

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited December 2018 in News & Features Discussion

image5 Things We'd Like to See in Diablo 4 - The List - MMORPG.com

Yeah, we know...no official announcement has yet been made about Diablo 4 but we're all 99.999999% sure that the big red bad boy from the long-running series is definitely being primed for a comeback. The biggest question is when Blizzard will finally get around to telling us officially...because they sure missed the boat at BlizzCon, didn't they? At any rate, here are a few things we want to see come the big day when we finally learn that Diablo 4 is on its way.

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  • GendarkGendark Member UncommonPosts: 100
    So basically you want Lost Ark with a diablo skin and "blizzard" polishing touch. I want it too :D
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited December 2018
    Gendark said:

    So basically you want Lost Ark with a diablo skin and "blizzard" polishing touch. I want it too :D
    MAKE IT SO! :D
    Oh and add in Path of Exile type updates and we're golden!
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  • RazankaRazanka Member UncommonPosts: 67
    But we all have phones.
    SBFordBillMurphyPhryangerbeaveronelesslightWhiteLanternJusTnRMrMelGibsonArskaaaRaagnarzand 8 others.
  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    edited December 2018
    I want all of the following:

    1) Character creation.

    2) Traditional Diablo 2/PoE style passive tree AND Diablo 3 style runes.

    3) PoE or Lost Ark style advanced classes/sub-classes.

    4) Character stories. AI companions like in Diablo 3 are okay, but having them offer long, interesting quest chains would be even better and could help flesh out the world, especially if the characters themselves are interesting. Think Mass Effect/Dragon Age loyalty missions.

    5) A select few optional open world patrol zones and faction PvP zones that don't trigger hardcore deaths.
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  • BananableBananable Member UncommonPosts: 194
    Razanka said:
    But we all have phones.
    LOLZ
     Why this isnt "5 Things We'd Like to See in Diablo Immortal" then?  :P

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  • KalebGraysonKalebGrayson Member RarePosts: 430
    I dunno folks. A lot of people are saying Diablo 4 is in the works, but we've seen nothing to prove it actually is. We're talking about Activision-Blizzard here and I think folks have too much hope based on the old Blizzard that is long gone. I hope I am wrong. Even if it is in the works, the development began for Diablo 3 in 2001? was announced in 2008?, and released in mid 2012? If they announced it tomorrow, I'm guessing nothing for us to play FOR 4 YEARS!!!
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  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    At the moment, Diablo 4 would have to be an improvement on Path of Exile for me to even give it a second glance, i am not sure Activision can do that. :/
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    edited December 2018
    I don't want more MMO features.. at all. If you make it like an MMO it needs to be 'balanced' and ' fair'. It becomes too structured and you completely lose the randomness of loot.

    The best.. and I mean absolute BEST.... thing about these games is when you get that awesome drop that makes you stupidly overpowered or create that build that lets you tear through things with barely any effort. That is the whole point of these games and it's why all these MMO attempts just feel like an isometric WoW. It's why Diablo 3 was garbage until Reaper of Souls as well; they made it tiered and structured.

    What's described in the article is basically PoE style, shared hubs. That would be fine and is proven to work but I know for a fact they would not stop there. They would add some silly matchmaking features for dungeons or rifts or some shit and it'll just be WoW. Loads of group only content that doesn't belong in this genre and the forums would be flooded with idiots complaining about each classes strong abilities out of jealousy. Jerks would complain if you don't use a certain build etc. etc. All the magic will become lost.
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  • sofeenhaftsofeenhaft Member UncommonPosts: 4
    They can't. In my opinion the downfall of blizzard and bethesda and so on is a great oppotunity for the gaming scene to get more attention on other studios like grinding gear games pp.
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  • syltmackasyltmacka Member UncommonPosts: 404
    more classes. more darker. more gritty.more diablo.
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  • JusTnRJusTnR Member UncommonPosts: 6
    edited December 2018
    not only 5 Things.! .... i will say more about ...

    6: Real MarketPlace !
    7: Game Gold must be really hard to find !!! shareable between players!
    8:Legendary items must be %5 drop rate so thats why we have to farm 23123123 times ...
    9:Open World Map!
    10: Merchant system ! people creates merchant and afk mode for selling rare items .!
    11: Premium account for additional exp
    12 : item enchanting and upgrading system . +1 to + 15 or 20 etc.
    13: no PAY to WIN !!!!!!
    15: Not SEASON SYTEM! we want to play only 1 character system . 16: A character with huge heals in boss rooms . only for heals and buffs .. can't damage so high !defensive only ! 17: A system for pets . Can choosing collecting rare ultimate items chooseable .. 18: Character Creation more detail like Black Desert Online ! There are more things for adding but i don't remember right now .....i can add more when i remember !
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    People keep saying they want dark and gritty graphics and that concerns me. The ARPG genre has consistently leaned on 'dark and gritty' as a crutch to justify bad or subpar graphics and a lack of original art direction.

    This isn't to say that 'dark and gritty' can't look good. Bloodborne is a real looker, after all. But Path of Exile isn't attractive. Grim Dawn isn't attractive. I only want 'dark and gritty' if they can spare the budget to make it look up to par with modern standards.
    Robbgobb
  • boris20boris20 Member RarePosts: 404
    I would love to see a proper trading system. That is 100% what ruined D3 for me. 
    My drive to play D2 was farming gear to trade. I kept me hooked. Always out trying to find the best of the best to sell for what I needed. 

    I would like to be able to trade rare gear once more, but with a real trading system of some sort. Shops you can set up, a auction house, something. 
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  • chrisapete123chrisapete123 Member UncommonPosts: 23
    PvP will ruin Diablo please no PVP option cuz it ruins MMORPGs.
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  • boris20boris20 Member RarePosts: 404


    PvP will ruin Diablo please no PVP option cuz it ruins MMORPGs.



    Open world no option to unflag, yes a bad idea.

    Some form of group arena or mini games, I would love. Hell even separate zones for larger clan battles would be fun, give me extra drive to tweak out my character. Separate gear sets to pvp in if desired.
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    I would really like to see one of these AAA Devs make there ARPG with Soldaks Dynamic Quest and Event system (DIns Curse /Drox Operative/Kivi for ex). would be amazing ..

       There system really makes the game world feel alive exciting and driven with purpose ..
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  • RobbgobbRobbgobb Member UncommonPosts: 674
    Lore would be awesome. There are so many stories hanging. I would love to have more Covetous Shen. He is so awesome.

    I think Diablo 3 is very pretty to look at and enjoy playing it. PoE looks is why I don't play it. I want to be happy when playing and the graphics just depress me like I am looking at a picture that the sun has bleach the color out of.

    Deeper character building would be great. I would be fine if this was something more end game where was trying to farm what runes were originally going to be fore D3. I forgot how many combinations they said there could have been.

    I would enjoy seeing something for clans except it kind of goes counter to lore and same for shared lobbies. If lore somehow went past the character being "THE ONE WHO SAVES THE WORLD" and allowed for groups to form then it would be better.

    Get rid of character being the world savior. I am tired of that so very much. I enjoy the stories in games that you are just one of many who have the ability to help save the world but it is not just you alone.

    PvP will never be what I want as I would much prefer to go play a first or third person game that was built around fighting other players.
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  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,523
    Yeah going to be honest I don't want MMO elements in Diablo. I am fine with co-op ect...but I don't want it to be like every other Korean ARPG MMO that is released where you have people all over the place in hubs and the world. I don't want to compete for mobs, don't want to see a hundred of myself everywhere, ect. Do not want PVP where they have to balance the PVE part around it. I am fine with arena PVP as long as it doesn't intrude on the other aspects of the game. For me ARPG's are a single player thing maybe co-op. Even when I play PoE I do SSF leagues.

    Those are my personal things just like the article is the OP's personal list. I would like to see more story content released over time. I would like to see a little darker gore style added back into it instead of the bright and happy feeling it got with D3.
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  • blamo2000blamo2000 Member RarePosts: 1,130
    The only thing that could get me to check out a Diablo 4 is a decent chardev system like d2 had.
  • SamhaelSamhael Member RarePosts: 1,534
    I don't even recall the story for Diablo 3. So that says something about how well the lore stuck with me. I'd prefer a look/feel like D1 and D2 as I really didn't care for the visuals of D3.
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  • LuidenLuiden Member RarePosts: 337
    I don't think Blizzard has the ability to innovate anymore.. so prepare for some kind of clone game that runs on a phone.. maybe a watch. Basically they will just copy what somebody else has done and try to put it on a gas station tv pump.. because that's what we really want is to play Diablo 4 while pumping gas.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    Ahem, well, here we go:

    1. Since monetisation was a bit of a fiasco with D3 and its real money AH, how about a GaaS setup where you buy the base game and they keep adding class packs every 3 months or so that you can buy for 15 bucks? You get a class, a class weapon, a bit of story and two character slots for that price, perhaps some unique monsters to boot. Some suggestions for classes would be:

    Beastmaster
    Chloromancer
    Druid
    Monk
    Amazon
    Rogue
    Warlock
    Zealot
    Shaman
    Witchhunter
    Dark Knight
    Priest

    This way customers can spend money when they want to and Blizzard keeps a steady income instead of 1 base game, 1 expansion and 1 character pack in 6 bloody years. 6 years in which they had to keep spending money to keep the servers up and create seasons.

    2. D3 has perfect character customisation, especially on higher difficulty levels. What D4 needs is ways to customise your Rift/Dungeon runs in addition to that. How about being able to add modifiers to your runs? Positive ones like 10% resist all or +5 minutes time, which will decrease your rewards. And negative ones like All monters have added poison damage or -5 Minutes of time to complete the run for higher rewards. Rewards would be currency to spend on random gear, like the blood stones or whatever they are called do now.

    3. Seasons that actually add game play, like PoE does it. But when a season ends, how about bringing back that specific season trait as a modifier to your runs as explained before. As an example, one season could be all about traps, after the season ends your could modify your dungeon run with Inclusion of traps for a greater reward.

    4. Meaningful crafting. How about being able to infuse high quality gems into your recipes to ad unique and random properties. How about deconstructing and/or combining high level gear to create new items.

    5. Make the towns bigger and actual hubs for 24-32 people.

    6. Add extremely rare gear with non class specific skills. I would love this in all honesty, it would open up so many new builds.

    7. I LOVE, LOVE the skill system with its modifiers in D3. But PLEASE, make these modifiers more viable and unique, half of them are worthless or so unexciting you almost don't notice them.

    8. More randomisation when it comes to world and gear creation. Right now the world of D3 is 60% predetermined with 40% randomisation, and really, it shows after playing through all of it for the 20th time, I would like a LOT more variation. How about creating night and day versions of every zone with the accompanying enemies and flora effects (glowing mushrooms pop out at night in the desert for instance and at that time the dead rise). And weapon randomisation, just look at the amount of suffixes and prefixes a game like Grim Dawn has, more modifiers please!

    9. Make the towns more interactive, @Scorchien mentions games like Dins Curse, that is EXACTLY what D4 needs, a town with wishes and needs, a town that can get attacked or invaded, starving for food. All of it dynamic.

    10. New modes, simple dungeon runs aren't cutting it in the long run. How about The Last Stand? A mode where you defend a random fortification in heaven from the assaults of hell and the more waves you beat the better the reward. Howe about The Descent? In which you decent the rings of hell going deeper and deeper and the difficulty goes up with every level. The catch? You can only exit the dungeon ONCE with the loot and if you die you lose it all. So when your inventory is full you have to decide what to drop and what to keep while gambling you will actually survive the next level.

    Do I have to go on Blizzard? Because it REALLY isn't hard. Do I have to go on? because I could, I've got plenty more great ideas like the ones mentioned above. Maybe you should hire me because I don't only think that I know what I want, I damn well know that what I think that I want is exactly what I actually want. And really MMORPG? I never give negative comments when it comes to articles posted here but this one is really inadequate, if that is all you want from D4 then, well, good luck to you all. I like something more ambitious.



    End of rant, thanks for reading.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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  • Luther512Luther512 Member UncommonPosts: 7
    If they are making a d4 I want it to be what I expected d3 to be, a continuation of d2 in form and function plus more. Played a few hours of PoE. I honestly didn't want to but now that I have I really like it. It feels brutal and gritty. It feels more like diablo than d3.
  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,523


    My list is quite different.

    1. Hardly obtainable level cap like in D2 / long term leveling 
    2. Skills / talents / stats obtainable all the way to max level
    3. Ability to allocate stats 
    4. Skill trees with no reset with a real possibility of hitting a dead end due to a badly built character
    5. Various play styles on each class
    6. Additional extra hard difficulty on top of regular 3 or 4 difficulties for high level / geared characters
    7. Darkness, atmosphere
    8. Reasonable skill / spell visual effects
    9. Some new ideas increasing depth of the game (like rune words or horadric cube in D2)



    You realize your list is basically PoE right?
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    Torval said:
    I don't want them to go to DOOM levels of virtual gore. It doesn't need to be that big and detailed. That's just gross to me. The reason why the gore in D2 worked for me is because the scale left more to the imagination. To me it was great because it sparked my imagination without trying to take over. I have a feeling they'll try and go edgy over the top though.
    I never thought D3 was light on gore anyway. There's body parts flying all over the place. I never understood the complaints about D3 not being dark enough. I think it's very dark from the start. The creature models are horrific, there are dungeons filled with body parts, torture devices and the gore is there. I guess the complaints are about it being stylised? or is it just about the blue tint to the darkness? I don't know..  the enemies flashing white when you hit them hides a lot of the gore I guess, but it is there.
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