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Anthem Player Discovers that a Starter Rifle May be the Best in the Game UPDATED!

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited March 2019 in News & Features Discussion

imageAnthem Player Discovers that a Starter Rifle May be the Best in the Game - MMORPG.com

According to Reddit user YeetLordSupreme, Anthem's starter rifle seems to be the best in the game damage-wise. After conducting a number of experiments with weapons up to and including a max-level Masterwork firearm, it was determined that weapon damage and enemy health scale based on the weapon being used by players. A scar monster, for instance, took 6 bullets to kill leading one to think it would take about 30 for a level 1 gun...but, no. Just 4.

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UPDATE: https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/ay0oh7/psa_the_level_1_defender_rifle_is_the_best_weapon/ehy00eh

Hey everyone – Thanks for the feedback on this. I have confirmed with the team that this is in fact a bug related specifically to the default items on a loadout in combination with higher level gear you have equipped. It’s not functioning as intended and the team is working on it for an upcoming fix.

We are listening to all your feedback. We'll update you as soon as we have some new information to share.



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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Well , if thats true , ( and i dont play Anthem) this is terrible itemization and doesnt give much incentive to loot grind
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    edited March 2019
    Scorchien said:
    Well , if thats true , ( and i dont play Anthem) this is terrible itemization and doesnt give much incentive to loot grind
    It doesn't sound like an intentional reality of itemization, but rather a bug or oversight.
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  • Mr.GutsyMr.Gutsy Member UncommonPosts: 93

    Aeander said:


    Scorchien said:

    Well , if thats true , ( and i dont play Anthem) this is terrible itemization and doesnt give much incentive to loot grind


    It doesn't sound like an intentional reality of itemization, but rather a bug or oversight.



    This stuff is pretty common.
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited March 2019
    Aeander said:
    Scorchien said:
    Well , if thats true , ( and i dont play Anthem) this is terrible itemization and doesnt give much incentive to loot grind
    It doesn't sound like an intentional reality of itemization, but rather a bug or oversight.
    Exactly what I said in the article: That it's a bug and it'll probably be hotfixed out of the game before morning. :D But ya gotta admit it's pretty funny. 
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    It's a solution to P2W. Give all characters the best weapon in the game at start and then everything else is cosmetic.

    GENIUS!!
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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

    As predicted:

    UPDATE:     https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/ay0oh7/psa_the_level_1_defender_rifle_is_the_best_weapon/ehy00eh

    Hey everyone – Thanks for the feedback on this. I have confirmed with the team that this is in fact a bug related specifically to the default items on a loadout in combination with higher level gear you have equipped. It’s not functioning as intended and the team is working on it for an upcoming fix.

    We are listening to all your feedback. We'll update you as soon as we have some new information to share.

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  • RhygarthRhygarth Member UncommonPosts: 259
    It will be a scaling bug where the game takes the weapon lvl and lowers the mob hp acordingly
    It does indeed feel like the lvl 1 cloudburst is killing mobs faster than my endless siege (not much faster tho) the problem is the endless siege holds maybe 5 times the amount of ammo and i would run out of ammo on the cloudburst befor i killed a gm2 mob that had shields.

    So if your farming trash on gm1 them maybe it would be better with the starter gun but in anything with a bit of a challange i would stick to my lvl 45 guns as the sustain firepower would win in the end at least on the colossus.
  • DeadSpockDeadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 403
    Good thing I passed on Anthem looking forward to Tuesday The Division 2 early start.
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    edited March 2019
    This a quite hilarious.

    It's obviously great getting a new gun that does more damage when the enemies gain health the second you equip it.

    It's like false economy...

    Fixing this bug won't change that enemies gain more health when you do more damage. It's highlighted a really ugly mechanic in the game.
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    TheDarkrayne said:
    This a quite hilarious.

    It's obviously great getting a new gun that does more damage when the enemies gain health the second you equip it.

    It's like false economy...

    Fixing this bug won't change that enemies gain more health when you do more damage. It's highlighted a really ugly mechanic in the game.
    A mechanic that is both confusing and pointless. I had no idea it was even a thing because I can't think of any reason for it to be a thing when the game already has difficulty settings.
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  • SamhaelSamhael Member RarePosts: 1,534

    parrotpholk said:

    Can anyone here who plays still please confirm if this is reality.

    Seems like if you post it on reddit now that the sites are picking up on it and running with it.



    I would doubt that most people actively playing kept their starter rifle. I salvaged mine after the second drop.
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    Samhael said:

    parrotpholk said:

    Can anyone here who plays still please confirm if this is reality.

    Seems like if you post it on reddit now that the sites are picking up on it and running with it.



    I would doubt that most people actively playing kept their starter rifle. I salvaged mine after the second drop.
    Did you, really?

    I ask because it's impossible to salvage the first weapon for 'each' Javelin. They are stuck in your storage forever.
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  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    Arterius said:
    TheDarkrayne said:
    Samhael said:

    parrotpholk said:

    Can anyone here who plays still please confirm if this is reality.

    Seems like if you post it on reddit now that the sites are picking up on it and running with it.



    I would doubt that most people actively playing kept their starter rifle. I salvaged mine after the second drop.
    Did you, really?

    I ask because it's impossible to salvage the first weapon for 'each' Javelin. They are stuck in your storage forever.
    Must be a bug because I am 99% sure that I salvaged my first weapons as well but I would have to double check
    Maybe there was an update after I stopped playing but you definitely couldn't during early access. I know for an absolute fact it couldn't be done because it always highlighted them as new items every time you went to the vault. It annoyed me constantly.
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  • Mr.GutsyMr.Gutsy Member UncommonPosts: 93

    TheDarkrayne said:


    Arterius said:


    TheDarkrayne said:


    Samhael said:



    parrotpholk said:


    Can anyone here who plays still please confirm if this is reality.

    Seems like if you post it on reddit now that the sites are picking up on it and running with it.






    I would doubt that most people actively playing kept their starter rifle. I salvaged mine after the second drop.


    Did you, really?

    I ask because it's impossible to salvage the first weapon for 'each' Javelin. They are stuck in your storage forever.


    Must be a bug because I am 99% sure that I salvaged my first weapons as well but I would have to double check


    Maybe there was an update after I stopped playing but you definitely couldn't during early access. I know for an absolute fact it couldn't be done because it always highlighted them as new items every time you went to the vault. It annoyed me constantly.



    You can salvage it.
  • AshikuroAshikuro Member UncommonPosts: 68
    It's a bug, they know it's a bug... one of many, many. Not that big of a deal and it will get fixed. EA is on the hotseat though... they need to nail next weeks big patch or the game is in trouble. I love the game and have been patient with the bugs, but they're running out of time for a lot of players.
  • cmacqcmacq Member UncommonPosts: 331
    Mr.Gutsy said:

    TheDarkrayne said:


    Arterius said:


    TheDarkrayne said:


    Samhael said:



    parrotpholk said:


    Can anyone here who plays still please confirm if this is reality.

    Seems like if you post it on reddit now that the sites are picking up on it and running with it.






    I would doubt that most people actively playing kept their starter rifle. I salvaged mine after the second drop.


    Did you, really?

    I ask because it's impossible to salvage the first weapon for 'each' Javelin. They are stuck in your storage forever.


    Must be a bug because I am 99% sure that I salvaged my first weapons as well but I would have to double check


    Maybe there was an update after I stopped playing but you definitely couldn't during early access. I know for an absolute fact it couldn't be done because it always highlighted them as new items every time you went to the vault. It annoyed me constantly.



    You can salvage it.
    Really? How? Right click does not salvage it in the vault. Do you move it junk? Haven't tried that....
  • Mr.GutsyMr.Gutsy Member UncommonPosts: 93
    edited March 2019
    cmacq said:
    Really? How? Right click does not salvage it in the vault. Do you move it junk? Haven't tried that....
    Do you have multiple loadouts? The only time I cannot salvage something is when my other loadouts have it equipped. 
  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607
    Ugh...

    You know... as a player, maybe I should have tried harder to keep Tabula Rasa afloat...
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  • SplattrSplattr Member RarePosts: 565
    Mr.Gutsy said:
    cmacq said:
    Really? How? Right click does not salvage it in the vault. Do you move it junk? Haven't tried that....
    Do you have multiple loadouts? The only time I cannot salvage something is when my other loadouts have it equipped. 
    I don't know if you can salvage your default items, but they are always available. Just create a new loadout and choose to use the default options. All of your original lvl 1 gear will be loaded onto your Javelin.

    Personally, I don't care if the default weapons are better. I want to get loaded up with the highest tier loot available, just because I can. As long as the gameplay keeps me engaged (so far, so good) I can grind forever. This is an MMO site after all, and anyone who says they don't like grinding isn't an OG MMO player anyway.
  • TheOctagonTheOctagon Member UncommonPosts: 411
    The OP forgot to mention they announced the problem on their live stream today, and it will be fixed in the upcoming patch on the 12th.

    As a matter of fact, a lot of the positive things they talked about never hit these forums. Just the negatives. Haters gonna click-bait.

    As for The Division 2 (Read: The Reskinned Division 1 Part 2.) beating anything out, I'll play it because I live in D.C. ,not because it's new and fresh.


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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    Yeah. I don't see the Division 1.2 actually taking away my interest for a substantial length of time. I'm sure it will be a fun diversion, but likely won't blow me away anymore than the Division 1 did.
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    I actually had this video playing as I came to this thread.


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  • jitter77jitter77 Member UncommonPosts: 517
    I joined EA premier to play anthem and I am enjoying it more than I expected.  I got my power level up to about 460 now.  my biggest issue is I kept getting the same masterwork items.  I will definitely be playing and buying the div 2 though once it comes out.  I really enjoyed the first game and the betas so I am ready....
  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607
    To play devil's advocate, here, it could well be that the stock weapons you get as a new character are bugged, as they are likely meant to make you seem more powerful than you will be in the rest of the game.  Anybody have a random "early game" green  drop to compare to a high level game weapon comparison?

    Either way, this feels like regression.  How glad I am that I never got into this business as I'd hoped when I was a kid...


  • Morgenes83Morgenes83 Member UncommonPosts: 286

    Rhygarth said:

    It will be a scaling bug where the game takes the weapon lvl and lowers the mob hp acordingly



    Thats what I thought too reading this
    But if thats the case a fix isn't implemented that easily because messing around with the level scaling might break so many other things

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