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AMD Radeon RX 5700 & RX 5700 XT Review - MMORPG.com

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It’s the day AMD fans have long been awaiting: the launch of a brand new generation of CPUs and GPUs from AMD. We were lucky enough to get the new AMD Radeon RX 5700 and 5700 XT in house to test ahead of launch. They’re built on the new RDNA architecture and bring neat features such as Anti-Lag the promise a competitive edge, but are they the next-generation leap we’ve been hoping for?

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  • 3dom3dom Member RarePosts: 889
    +60% the framerate of my 1070 nVIDIA - which I've purchased just a year ago for similar price...
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    The real question is just how well Radeon Anti-Lag works.  If it can take 15 ms off of the display latency while only dropping frame rates by a few percent, that absolutely is a killer feature.  If it cuts your frame rate in half for a latency difference of 2 ms, that's not so interesting.  We'll probably have to wait for some tech sites to have an in-depth look at it after the crush of rushing to get a review out is over.
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  • SephrusSephrus Member UncommonPosts: 76
    They are nice mid ranged cards at decent prices. May have to buy an AIB card when they launch for the ryzen 3700X I'm going to built for the wife
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  • bonzoso21bonzoso21 Member UncommonPosts: 380
    Good to see a largely successful launch from AMD today, as competition is always good. Seems like these will be a good buy from board partners with better, quieter cooling than the blower cooler on the reference cards, especially when the drivers get sorted out a bit. I'm not sure how many people will pay the extra $100 for an RTX 2070 Super to get maybe 10% on certain games, so it would be great if this forced a $50 price cut there.
  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,600
    The 5700/xt really need to be compared to the rtx super gpu's IMO so I think the review jumped the gun a little.

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • SephrusSephrus Member UncommonPosts: 76
    It beats the 2060 super, which occupies the same price poin, by a pretty good margin. And I am far more interested in the anti imput lag software than in ray tracing, since the 2060 and 2070 are crap at ray tracing anyway and I personally don't play anything with ray tracing.
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  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,600
    Sephrus said:
    It beats the 2060 super, which occupies the same price poin, by a pretty good margin. And I am far more interested in the anti imput lag software than in ray tracing, since the 2060 and 2070 are crap at ray tracing anyway and I personally don't play anything with ray tracing.
    Which one is "it"?

    Not that I have seen many reviews but what have seen was 5700 is about 2060 super performance and 5700xt was about 2070 super performance?

    Be nice if people would put in links to benchmarks or reviews with benchmarks when saying things like this.


    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • bonzoso21bonzoso21 Member UncommonPosts: 380
    Based on various YouTube reviewers (Paul's Hardware, Gamer's Nexus, Bitwit, Jayz2Cents, Linus Tech Tips, etc), the general consensus seems to be that the 5700 XT performs a bit better (~ 5-10%) than the 2060 Super at the same price point, and performs a bit worse (~ 10%) and costs $100 less than the 2070 Super. Some games even have the 5700 outperforming the 2060 Super, and that card is $50 cheaper.

    It also seems that the 1% low framerates are down a bit compared to average framerates than the RTX Super cards, so while average fps may be better than the 2060 Super in many games, the worst drops could be more noticeable. Some games favor AMD and some favor Nvidia, so gaming performance can swing in either direction depending on the game and its optimization.

    If price/performance is the most important thing and you have no interest in bothering with raytracing, AMD is the clear winner here. And if there is professional work to be done, AMD is better. The blower coolers on these AMD reference cards have them running pretty hot and getting pretty loud, though, so I'd wait to see what their partners put out. They're not supposed to throttle until 110C, but some folks have them hitting 90C in open air test benches, so who knows what they'll get to inside a case when overclocked. 

  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,600
    edited July 2019


    Do people understand that 5-10% better performance in the real world is nothing? You would not notice the difference in any game between these price fixed scammer GPU from AMD and Nvidia. People are so blinded by the hype and just eat the marketing like fucking opioids. I’m sticking with my RX 580 8 gun for as long as it’s running. The GPU companies are pulling an apple with these tiny performance gains at a huge markup fully fueled by hype. My RX 580 games at 1440p perfectly well with FreeSync I’m playing whatever I want.



    While for some I think that may be the case.. for most of us it's not. Frankly I don't care which one is better beyond which one is best and cheaper for my needs. Now in two of the PC I just want a general all round good gaming gpu so I want best price/performance which may indeed be the amd gpu and for the third PC which will be built for VR I need the best performing gpu which I think will most likely be the rtx super 2080/Ti.

    That said most of us are aware of the stupid price hike that occurred due to the bitcoin craze and that both AMD and Nvidia are milking the hell out of it..the problem is many gamers are just acclimatizing to new higher prices like sheep that just don't care. While those of us that do can't just stay with our old GPU forever and need to get new one's eventually whether we like the new pricing scheme or not.

    I mean really my gtx760 cards were good but they are just not up to it for much longer.....so I need to upgrade whether I want to or not at these prices.
    wanderica

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • Asm0deusAsm0deus Member EpicPosts: 4,600
    Torval said:
    Asm0deus said:
    Sephrus said:
    It beats the 2060 super, which occupies the same price poin, by a pretty good margin. And I am far more interested in the anti imput lag software than in ray tracing, since the 2060 and 2070 are crap at ray tracing anyway and I personally don't play anything with ray tracing.
    Which one is "it"?

    Not that I have seen many reviews but what have seen was 5700 is about 2060 super performance and 5700xt was about 2070 super performance?

    Be nice if people would put in links to benchmarks or reviews with benchmarks when saying things like this.




    AMD rocks on Linux and if these benchmarks hold up to further testing they will be great cards. Unfortunately Phoronix doesn't have sooper cards in the comparison.



    Ah thanks for the links, will definitely have to see more benchmarks.  Not a big fan of blowers except in certain situations like having a small case with limited airflow.

    That said seems like it pretty much what I was saying.


    5700 is pretty much equivalent to the 2060s while the 5700xt seems pretty equivalent to the 2070s but if you want or need more performance then you may be stuck with going 2080/ti super for now.

    I may have said this in the other thread though about the new amd cpu launch as it turned to gpu talk in there too along with cpu talk ofc.


    [Deleted User]Phry

    Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.





  • BobVaBobVa Member UncommonPosts: 125

    3dom said:

    +60% the framerate of my 1070 nVIDIA - which I've purchased just a year ago for similar price...



    Well, that was a bad choice, unless you couldn't wait anymore, as RTX's have been announced by then, and released 6 months ago in January(?).

    So, for the same price, you could of by a RTX 2060 which is a very, very good card and is almost the same in terms of performances with a RX 5700.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    DMKano said:
    Torval said:
    DMKano said:
    If it weren't for the stupid blower fan design - I would probably be buying one.

    Going to wait for:

    1. Nvidia's response (price cuts - if any)
    2. 3rd party cards without the dumb blower (again why ruin a good thing AMD ... seriously)
    3. More benchmarks
    1. They would have to be some pretty amazing price cuts. My rig is a little older and I'm only gaming at 1080. AMD offers some great performance value for both 1080 and 1440.

    2. My 970 is a blower and I don't want another one. Hopefully Sapphire will come out with a couple nice cards. If not then I'll keep waiting. No blowers.

    3. Since I'm using Linux I'm pretty sure AMD is going to be the better choice for me all around. I'm more concerned about driver quality and feature support. Even so, I would rather see more benchmarks and analysis on the strengths and weaknesses of the new architecture.


    If Nvidia dropped 2070super down to $399 - that would be a significant blow to AMD.
    Heck if they dropped it down to $450 - it would be a good deal.
    Don't count on seeing a GPU with a 545 mm^2 die for $400 unless severe market pressures force that sort of price cut just to get rid of them.  With their huge dies and very expensive to produce GPUs, Nvidia is in no position to start a price war.
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    Quizzical said:
    DMKano said:
    Torval said:
    DMKano said:
    If it weren't for the stupid blower fan design - I would probably be buying one.

    Going to wait for:

    1. Nvidia's response (price cuts - if any)
    2. 3rd party cards without the dumb blower (again why ruin a good thing AMD ... seriously)
    3. More benchmarks
    1. They would have to be some pretty amazing price cuts. My rig is a little older and I'm only gaming at 1080. AMD offers some great performance value for both 1080 and 1440.

    2. My 970 is a blower and I don't want another one. Hopefully Sapphire will come out with a couple nice cards. If not then I'll keep waiting. No blowers.

    3. Since I'm using Linux I'm pretty sure AMD is going to be the better choice for me all around. I'm more concerned about driver quality and feature support. Even so, I would rather see more benchmarks and analysis on the strengths and weaknesses of the new architecture.


    If Nvidia dropped 2070super down to $399 - that would be a significant blow to AMD.
    Heck if they dropped it down to $450 - it would be a good deal.
    Don't count on seeing a GPU with a 545 mm^2 die for $400 unless severe market pressures force that sort of price cut just to get rid of them.  With their huge dies and very expensive to produce GPUs, Nvidia is in no position to start a price war.
    I think that for NVidia these are the products and prices we get until they do their own move to 7nm.

    And since they've just launched new stuff it'll likely be 2020 before they make their own 7nm launches.
     
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