Regardless of anyone's stance on the game, the distribution, etc., that is a very effective graphic for announcing the launch time. No need at all to actually read "the full story". However, the game goes live at once. The only difference is built into the nature of time zones.
Maybe a third grade problem like "When it is 19:00 in NYC, what time is it here?" baffles people. Maybe Siri, too.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
These are the wrong release times, the games actual release is ~6 months later on steam, the EGS one is just a paid beta. One I won't be taking part in.
Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:
A. Proven right (if something bad happens)
or
B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)
This is going to flop....you can tell by how hard it's being pushed..it's the same as it ever was
I agree with this. I am curious to see how Borderlands does in this day and age. I am guessing not well. Their are plenty of examples in recent memory of things that were hyped to death on the internet that crashed and burned because the vocal people on the internet where not the majority.
This is going to flop....you can tell by how hard it's being pushed..it's the same as it ever was
I agree with this. I am curious to see how Borderlands does in this day and age. I am guessing not well. Their are plenty of examples in recent memory of things that were hyped to death on the internet that crashed and burned because the vocal people on the internet where not the majority.
Considering how active and evergreen Borderlands 2 still is, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it does VERY well.
This is going to flop....you can tell by how hard it's being pushed..it's the same as it ever was
I agree with this. I am curious to see how Borderlands does in this day and age. I am guessing not well. Their are plenty of examples in recent memory of things that were hyped to death on the internet that crashed and burned because the vocal people on the internet where not the majority.
Like what?
You know what you got me. I wrote that because I could have sworn their were a few I could name and I have been raking my brain for a while trying to think of one. Could just have a brain fart. Probably just an idiot. XD
In terms of things that were hyped to high heaven and will probably fail, I'm calling Shenmue 3 flopping.
This is going to flop....you can tell by how hard it's being pushed..it's the same as it ever was
I agree with this. I am curious to see how Borderlands does in this day and age. I am guessing not well. Their are plenty of examples in recent memory of things that were hyped to death on the internet that crashed and burned because the vocal people on the internet where not the majority.
Like what?
You know what you got me. I wrote that because I could have sworn their were a few I could name and I have been raking my brain for a while trying to think of one. Could just have a brain fart. Probably just an idiot. XD
Heh. I just think that even when average games get insanely hyped and have some pedigree behind them, there are going to be a massive amount of people that buy them. I have no clue whether BL3 will be any good, but I'm willing to bet it sells a ton of copies.
As an aside, this is why the Epic exlusive is so confusing to me. I'm watching them take a risk on sales numbers when they just plain don't have to take any risk. It would be different if it was their own store, but Epic must have given them an incredible amount of money to have them switch over.
Also, I'm personally hyped for BL3 because I love BL2, but I think that will only make me more critical of it.
This is going to flop....you can tell by how hard it's being pushed..it's the same as it ever was
I agree with this. I am curious to see how Borderlands does in this day and age. I am guessing not well. Their are plenty of examples in recent memory of things that were hyped to death on the internet that crashed and burned because the vocal people on the internet where not the majority.
Like what?
You know what you got me. I wrote that because I could have sworn their were a few I could name and I have been raking my brain for a while trying to think of one. Could just have a brain fart. Probably just an idiot. XD
In terms of things that were hyped to high heaven and will probably fail, I'm calling Shenmue 3 flopping.
I mean, is it hyped to 11 though? I went traveling last week and Borderlands crap was everywhere. Buses, bus stops, giant posters, etc. Shenmue 3? I think I saw a video of people freaking out about it last year and since then it has been non-existent to me. I doubt anyone under the age of 30 is even going to care.
I am very against Epic Store Exclusives, and I'd LOVE for there to be some miracle lesson learned here, but I'm no fool. I KNOW I'm in the minority holding out for the Steam release.
If you're betting on a flop for Borderlands 3, you're playing the long shot. Gearbox has too much good standing from BL1, BL2, and Tales of Borderlands and even the recent free DLC for BL2. They're actually allowed a major f@#$ up.
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
I am very against Epic Store Exclusives, and I'd LOVE for there to be some miracle lesson learned here, but I'm no fool. I KNOW I'm in the minority holding out for the Steam release.
If you're betting on a flop for Borderlands 3, you're playing the long shot. Gearbox has too much good standing from BL1, BL2, and Tales of Borderlands and even the recent free DLC for BL2. They're actually allowed a major f@#$ up.
They are allowed a major fuck up, of which they've actually had THREE. Battleborn, Duke Nukem Forever, and Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Gearbox aint actually all that great when it comes to anything other than Borderlands.
Unless that speaks to the quality of the game. They have a feeling that once reviews drop people will steer away. So Epic it is.
People still review games though, no matter what platform they are on. There is Metacritic for instance where people review bomb and such. Add to that the lower amount of users of the Epic Store and it just doesn't seem like a decent reason to me. The idea that they would use the Epic Store because they don't have a rating component to their store yet seems more like a convoluted conspiracy theory to me.
I am very against Epic Store Exclusives, and I'd LOVE for there to be some miracle lesson learned here, but I'm no fool. I KNOW I'm in the minority holding out for the Steam release.
If you're betting on a flop for Borderlands 3, you're playing the long shot. Gearbox has too much good standing from BL1, BL2, and Tales of Borderlands and even the recent free DLC for BL2. They're actually allowed a major f@#$ up.
They are allowed a major fuck up, of which they've actually had THREE. Battleborn, Duke Nukem Forever, and Aliens: Colonial Marines.
Gearbox aint actually all that great when it comes to anything other than Borderlands.
That's why I'm speaking specifically about Borderlands. The franchise is clean, the Prequel wasn't even considered as a major negative mark against it.
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
This is going to flop....you can tell by how hard it's being pushed..it's the same as it ever was
I agree with this. I am curious to see how Borderlands does in this day and age. I am guessing not well. Their are plenty of examples in recent memory of things that were hyped to death on the internet that crashed and burned because the vocal people on the internet where not the majority.
Like what?
You know what you got me. I wrote that because I could have sworn their were a few I could name and I have been raking my brain for a while trying to think of one. Could just have a brain fart. Probably just an idiot. XD
Heh. I just think that even when average games get insanely hyped and have some pedigree behind them, there are going to be a massive amount of people that buy them. I have no clue whether BL3 will be any good, but I'm willing to bet it sells a ton of copies.
As an aside, this is why the Epic exlusive is so confusing to me. I'm watching them take a risk on sales numbers when they just plain don't have to take any risk. It would be different if it was their own store, but Epic must have given them an incredible amount of money to have them switch over.
Also, I'm personally hyped for BL3 because I love BL2, but I think that will only make me more critical of it.
Unless that speaks to the quality of the game. They have a feeling that once reviews drop people will steer away. So Epic it is.
Problem is, user reviews are no longer fit for purpose. They've become a political or punitive tool, and games get arbitrarily punished for factors that may have nothing to do with game quality.
Case in point, two Switch exclusives, Astral Chain and Fire Emblem Three Houses, are currently being review bombed with 0/10 scores just for being Switch exclusives, bringing the average down to a 6.x/10. And that's completely unjustified, because both are great games and only a damn simpleton would rate the latter any lower than a 9.
The attempted phasing out of user reviews is unfortunate, but it's also justified. We made a rod for our own backs by abusing the system as a way of being heard.
This is going to flop....you can tell by how hard it's being pushed..it's the same as it ever was
I agree with this. I am curious to see how Borderlands does in this day and age. I am guessing not well. Their are plenty of examples in recent memory of things that were hyped to death on the internet that crashed and burned because the vocal people on the internet where not the majority.
Like what?
You know what you got me. I wrote that because I could have sworn their were a few I could name and I have been raking my brain for a while trying to think of one. Could just have a brain fart. Probably just an idiot. XD
Heh. I just think that even when average games get insanely hyped and have some pedigree behind them, there are going to be a massive amount of people that buy them. I have no clue whether BL3 will be any good, but I'm willing to bet it sells a ton of copies.
As an aside, this is why the Epic exlusive is so confusing to me. I'm watching them take a risk on sales numbers when they just plain don't have to take any risk. It would be different if it was their own store, but Epic must have given them an incredible amount of money to have them switch over.
Also, I'm personally hyped for BL3 because I love BL2, but I think that will only make me more critical of it.
Unless that speaks to the quality of the game. They have a feeling that once reviews drop people will steer away. So Epic it is.
Problem is, user reviews are no longer fit for purpose. They've become a political or punitive tool, and games get arbitrarily punished for factors that may have nothing to do with game quality.
Case in point, two Switch exclusives, Astral Chain and Fire Emblem Three Houses, are currently being review bombed with 0/10 scores just for being Switch exclusives, bringing the average down to a 6.x/10. And that's completely unjustified, because both are great games and only a damn simpleton would rate the latter any lower than a 9.
The attempted phasing out of user reviews is unfortunate, but it's also justified. We made a rod for our own backs by abusing the system as a way of being heard.
The best thing about the Astral Chain thing is I heard about it yesterday and looked up the reviews. A few of them were "Loved the game 10/10."
I also meant critic reviews which will probably be up at least 24 hours before the game launches
I had assumed you had meant user reviews because you had mentioned the move to Epic as a way of sidestepping them.
Fortunately, it looks like both of the games in question have had their user reviews wiped today (probably just removing those posted after the review bombs started). I had checked in yesterday and seen the review bombs in progress, and now things are back to normal. I didn't even know that Metacritic bothered curating troll reviews.
This is going to flop....you can tell by how hard it's being pushed..it's the same as it ever was
I agree with this. I am curious to see how Borderlands does in this day and age. I am guessing not well. Their are plenty of examples in recent memory of things that were hyped to death on the internet that crashed and burned because the vocal people on the internet where not the majority.
Like what?
You know what you got me. I wrote that because I could have sworn their were a few I could name and I have been raking my brain for a while trying to think of one. Could just have a brain fart. Probably just an idiot. XD
Heh. I just think that even when average games get insanely hyped and have some pedigree behind them, there are going to be a massive amount of people that buy them. I have no clue whether BL3 will be any good, but I'm willing to bet it sells a ton of copies.
As an aside, this is why the Epic exlusive is so confusing to me. I'm watching them take a risk on sales numbers when they just plain don't have to take any risk. It would be different if it was their own store, but Epic must have given them an incredible amount of money to have them switch over.
Also, I'm personally hyped for BL3 because I love BL2, but I think that will only make me more critical of it.
Unless that speaks to the quality of the game. They have a feeling that once reviews drop people will steer away. So Epic it is.
Problem is, user reviews are no longer fit for purpose. They've become a political or punitive tool, and games get arbitrarily punished for factors that may have nothing to do with game quality.
Case in point, two Switch exclusives, Astral Chain and Fire Emblem Three Houses, are currently being review bombed with 0/10 scores just for being Switch exclusives, bringing the average down to a 6.x/10. And that's completely unjustified, because both are great games and only a damn simpleton would rate the latter any lower than a 9.
The attempted phasing out of user reviews is unfortunate, but it's also justified. We made a rod for our own backs by abusing the system as a way of being heard.
The best thing about the Astral Chain thing is I heard about it yesterday and looked up the reviews. A few of them were "Loved the game 10/10."
I also meant critic reviews which will probably be up at least 24 hours before the game launches
I had assumed you had meant user reviews because you had mentioned the move to Epic as a way of sidestepping them.
Fortunately, it looks like both of the games in question have had their user reviews wiped today. I had checked in yesterday and seen the review bombs in progress, and now things are back to normal. I didn't even know that Metacritic bothered curating troll reviews.
No. I am sorry if what I said was confusing. I meant that maybe 2K/Gearbox took the epic deal because they are scared of what critic reviews are going to be like. Worried that it would effect sales. As someone said above it seems weird that 2K/Gearbox would have taken the deal otherwise. Borderlands is a well liked series with good faith. Why not release on everything and get more money? Seems weird to me. As when Borderlands 3 comes out steam Cyberpunk 2077, Final Fantasy R, Last of Us part 2 (rumored), Biomutant, Watch Dogs Legion, Animal Crossing, etc... will have been out for just a few months or a few weeks.
Oh, Spring 2020 is going to be a clusterfuck. Lots of great games entering a battle royale.
This is going to flop....you can tell by how hard it's being pushed..it's the same as it ever was
I agree with this. I am curious to see how Borderlands does in this day and age. I am guessing not well. Their are plenty of examples in recent memory of things that were hyped to death on the internet that crashed and burned because the vocal people on the internet where not the majority.
Like what?
You know what you got me. I wrote that because I could have sworn their were a few I could name and I have been raking my brain for a while trying to think of one. Could just have a brain fart. Probably just an idiot. XD
Heh. I just think that even when average games get insanely hyped and have some pedigree behind them, there are going to be a massive amount of people that buy them. I have no clue whether BL3 will be any good, but I'm willing to bet it sells a ton of copies.
As an aside, this is why the Epic exlusive is so confusing to me. I'm watching them take a risk on sales numbers when they just plain don't have to take any risk. It would be different if it was their own store, but Epic must have given them an incredible amount of money to have them switch over.
Also, I'm personally hyped for BL3 because I love BL2, but I think that will only make me more critical of it.
Unless that speaks to the quality of the game. They have a feeling that once reviews drop people will steer away. So Epic it is.
Problem is, user reviews are no longer fit for purpose. They've become a political or punitive tool, and games get arbitrarily punished for factors that may have nothing to do with game quality.
Case in point, two Switch exclusives, Astral Chain and Fire Emblem Three Houses, are currently being review bombed with 0/10 scores just for being Switch exclusives, bringing the average down to a 6.x/10. And that's completely unjustified, because both are great games and only a damn simpleton would rate the latter any lower than a 9.
The attempted phasing out of user reviews is unfortunate, but it's also justified. We made a rod for our own backs by abusing the system as a way of being heard.
The best thing about the Astral Chain thing is I heard about it yesterday and looked up the reviews. A few of them were "Loved the game 10/10."
I also meant critic reviews which will probably be up at least 24 hours before the game launches
I had assumed you had meant user reviews because you had mentioned the move to Epic as a way of sidestepping them.
Fortunately, it looks like both of the games in question have had their user reviews wiped today. I had checked in yesterday and seen the review bombs in progress, and now things are back to normal. I didn't even know that Metacritic bothered curating troll reviews.
No. I am sorry if what I said was confusing. I meant that maybe 2K/Gearbox took the epic deal because they are scared of what critic reviews are going to be like. Worried that it would effect sales. As someone said above it seems weird that 2K/Gearbox would have taken the deal otherwise. Borderlands is a well liked series with good faith. Why not release on everything and get more money? Seems weird to me. As when Borderlands 3 comes out steam Cyberpunk 2077, Final Fantasy R, Last of Us part 2 (rumored), Biomutant, Watch Dogs Legion, Animal Crossing, etc... will have been out for just a few months or a few weeks.
I think I see what you're saying now. You are talking about the guaranteed money given to them from Epic that ensures they get back some large portion of what they put in. I can see your point now. I know smaller games have done it for that reason. That guaranteed income can be attractive.
This is going to flop....you can tell by how hard it's being pushed..it's the same as it ever was
lol
you are a legit idiot
43 years on this earth has taught me to be cautious as well, I am weary of all the marketing hype myself and I never have played a Borderlands game, just not my thing. Great lyric from 82 lol
This is going to flop....you can tell by how hard it's being pushed..it's the same as it ever was
I agree with this. I am curious to see how Borderlands does in this day and age. I am guessing not well. Their are plenty of examples in recent memory of things that were hyped to death on the internet that crashed and burned because the vocal people on the internet where not the majority.
Dope poster. Definitely going to check it out. On XB for old times sake.
Borderlands was never a PC thing from the start, so I don't think a majority of the audience who is going to play B3 gives a damn what pc platform it's on... only PC exclusive gamers care about that bs.
B3 is going to sell a ton of copies because its a classic IP in the console world.
For the PC people so upset over what platform it's going to come on, what difference does it really make? Seriously, you are going to pay the same price regardless if its steam, or Epic. Doesn't even matter.
What's so special about Steam that you guys call for "boycott" every time a game you care about isn't on steam. It's perplexing. Nothing changes for you the gamer.. leave the games business to the people that work there, and just be a consumer.
Too many armchair cfos/developers.... just play the damn game and shut up.
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Not sure how an online store has an effect on gameplay but ok lol.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:
A. Proven right (if something bad happens)
or
B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)
Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!
As an aside, this is why the Epic exlusive is so confusing to me. I'm watching them take a risk on sales numbers when they just plain don't have to take any risk. It would be different if it was their own store, but Epic must have given them an incredible amount of money to have them switch over.
Also, I'm personally hyped for BL3 because I love BL2, but I think that will only make me more critical of it.
If you're betting on a flop for Borderlands 3, you're playing the long shot. Gearbox has too much good standing from BL1, BL2, and Tales of Borderlands and even the recent free DLC for BL2. They're actually allowed a major f@#$ up.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Gearbox aint actually all that great when it comes to anything other than Borderlands.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Case in point, two Switch exclusives, Astral Chain and Fire Emblem Three Houses, are currently being review bombed with 0/10 scores just for being Switch exclusives, bringing the average down to a 6.x/10. And that's completely unjustified, because both are great games and only a damn simpleton would rate the latter any lower than a 9.
The attempted phasing out of user reviews is unfortunate, but it's also justified. We made a rod for our own backs by abusing the system as a way of being heard.
Fortunately, it looks like both of the games in question have had their user reviews wiped today (probably just removing those posted after the review bombs started). I had checked in yesterday and seen the review bombs in progress, and now things are back to normal. I didn't even know that Metacritic bothered curating troll reviews.
lol
you are a legit idiot
Borderlands was never a PC thing from the start, so I don't think a majority of the audience who is going to play B3 gives a damn what pc platform it's on... only PC exclusive gamers care about that bs.
B3 is going to sell a ton of copies because its a classic IP in the console world.
For the PC people so upset over what platform it's going to come on, what difference does it really make? Seriously, you are going to pay the same price regardless if its steam, or Epic.
Doesn't even matter.
What's so special about Steam that you guys call for "boycott" every time a game you care about isn't on steam. It's perplexing. Nothing changes for you the gamer.. leave the games business to the people that work there, and just be a consumer.
Too many armchair cfos/developers.... just play the damn game and shut up.
"The Society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
Currently: Games Audio Engineer, you didn't hear what I heard, you heard what I wanted you to hear.