I've never seen such a prestigious brand fall so hard.
There are countless videos like this, as well as an endless supply of Star Wars hate vids via YouTube. It's so crazy.
I mean people hated TLJ and the hate went crazy. TLJ sucked but it wasn't bad as the prequel. The main difference is social media. Can you imagine the hate if The Phantom Menace had come out today. Holy crap it would have been insane. Way worse then TLJ ever got. As someone who works as a writer for TV I will tell you this don't let the haters make you think SW is a lesser brand. I can tell you that Disney isn't sweating it. Most of the time they are in the minority. Look at Captain Marvel and the hate that movie got before release. Then bam more then a billion dillors
I strongly disagree. Yes social media exists today, and the prequel were a step back from the original, but the sequel trilogy are a downright insult to SW hence why people are outraged. It feels like what Lucas said in an interview about Disney: "I feel like I sold out to the slavers".
Of course SW is still a great brand, but the sequel trilogy really buried SW as a franchise, since nobody is interested in the new characters and their future. I think there has never been less enthusiasm for the conclusion of a trilogy than this next film, and it's coming out in December! People don't give a single shit. And despite the problems with the prequels, "Revenge of the Sith" was one of the most viewed films of the SW franchise and people really awaited each new film. Star wars was still Star Wars.
It leaves the future of SW in a difficult position. What do they do with it next? Who is going to resurrect that franchise? Who is going to take that burden?
If only they'd actually give the fans a democratic platform for discussion/ideas, I think it would be a great place to start. For example, I and many fans probably think that going with an Obi-Wan stand alone film would be amazing (exploring his youth maybe).
Anyhow, Starwars, like the Blizzard games, are a franchise which has gone to the slavers.
However, even so, TLJ contradicts this. A milennia of structured training to build the perfect Sith has no purpose if the force can just make the Jedi with no training equally powerful and vice versa.
First of all, none of this is real. It can be changed, altered, added upon, expanded at any time.
Because it's fiction, the force can do whatever "it" wants to do. Or perhaps a new player enters the stage who is a savant and can make leaps where others require months.
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However, even so, TLJ contradicts this. A milennia of structured training to build the perfect Sith has no purpose if the force can just make the Jedi with no training equally powerful and vice versa.
First of all, none of this is real. It can be changed, altered, added upon, expanded at any time.
Because it's fiction, the force can do whatever "it" wants to do. Or perhaps a new player enters the stage who is a savant and can make leaps where others require months.
That seems like a large push for legitimizing awful contrivance-story telling. I like movies and stories to make sense, have sensible and consistent rules, and to not be just chock full o' contrivances left and right. If it doesn't make sense, I will never thing its a good story. If anything can be anything and the rules change ever five seconds, why waste time on such trash? How could anyone with a brain that can reason ever be immersed in such a nonsensical garbage?
However, even so, TLJ contradicts this. A milennia of structured training to build the perfect Sith has no purpose if the force can just make the Jedi with no training equally powerful and vice versa.
First of all, none of this is real. It can be changed, altered, added upon, expanded at any time.
Because it's fiction, the force can do whatever "it" wants to do. Or perhaps a new player enters the stage who is a savant and can make leaps where others require months.
That seems like a large push for legitimizing awful contrivance-story telling. I like movies and stories to make sense, have sensible and consistent rules, and to not be just chock full o' contrivances left and right. If it doesn't make sense, I will never thing its a good story. If anything can be anything and the rules change ever five seconds, why waste time on such trash? How could anyone with a brain that can reason ever be immersed in such a nonsensical garbage?
I have this sneaking suspicion that this thread is more about you wanting to trash the IP than ask whether there will be another Star Wars mmo. Just a hunch. I think you could have achieved the same result by having your OP just say, "I hate the SW IP now. Who's with me?"
yes please. i mean swtor isnt that bad. but im bored of it atm. whould love to see one where the first movies took place.´, vader ,stormtroopers and boba fett, etc etc.
I think as long time Star Wars fans most of us can agree that we always found more interest in the stories of those unknowns in the background of the movies then in the actual protagonists of the stories. Books like Tales of the mos Eisley Cantina was one of my favorite books in the SW series and brought life to those extras we all wondered about.
I'll say it again, we need an MMO where you can be play as an Uncle Owen if you chose or make a name for yourself in your own virtual universe if that's your goal. Become a spacer and just haul goods, become a crafter and make the best Vasarian Brandy on the server.
I enjoyed playing a game where not everyone was a gun-slinging hero. Some people just liked to craft or dance in the Cantina and chat rather than afk their way through the game. It made it feel more like the real Star Wars universe from the original movies you could imagine would exist. What would happen if players could not play as Jedi? That would be a game I would play.
I think as long time Star Wars fans most of us can agree that we always found more interest in the stories of those unknowns in the background of the movies then in the actual protagonists of the stories. Books like Tales of the mos Eisley Cantina was one of my favorite books in the SW series and brought life to those extras we all wondered about.
I'll say it again, we need an MMO where you can be play as an Uncle Owen if you chose or make a name for yourself in your own virtual universe if that's your goal. Become a spacer and just haul goods, become a crafter and make the best Vasarian Brandy on the server.
I enjoyed playing a game where not everyone was a gun-slinging hero. Some people just liked to craft or dance in the Cantina and chat rather than afk their way through the game. It made it feel more like the real Star Wars universe from the original movies you could imagine would exist. What would happen if players could not play as Jedi? That would be a game I would play.
Its more or less true. I think lots of people love to play as a Jedi (which led to SWG making the terrible decision of allowing people to create Jedi characters easily). To be honest my favorite game series in the SW franchise is the "Jedi Knight" series. Using various force powers is just fun.
What was really great about SWG in my opinion, besides what you mention (the many classes) was just the nature of SWG as an open world environment. I mean this was a game that took the massive in "MMORPG" seriously. I still remember starting on Tattoine, and just one planet was the size of modern games like SWTOR. The planets being so massive was great.
The combat system and pretty much everything was overly difficult and messed up though lol. The game was just weird & buggy, and unfinished in many places.
But again we're not going to see games of that magnitude for a long time. We have passed the age of these types of games. We have to wait until the next age of great multiplayer games. We might wait forever.
Anyone who seems to think that SW is cheap or pathetic brand needs some serious reality check. Star Wars has always been more than the sum of its movies. To this day there are countless of comics and book novels (and toys and merchandise) that rake in billions of dollars yearly. Once Disney+ launches you'll get to see new TV shows set in the universe so no....SW is hardly cheap or pathetic. It's actually up there with MCU. Thinking otherwise is plain stupid.
Like, even if Rise of Skywaler is the worst movie in the history of cinema, worse than Sharknado, it's still going to rake in billions for years to come through other forms.
I don't think we'll be getting a SW MMO though. Single player (online only), co-op at best games. That's what sells without having to worry about new content to keep the suckers that already paid for your product and don't plan to spend much more. It's the reason MMOs died as a genre. It's too expensive to keep them up. SP is good for publishers. Tons of ppl buy the game and you have 0 obligations to them. Fetch in the occasional DLC with 2-3 quests and rake in some nice cashback.
Yes, DLCs and seasons passes killed MMOs because they work. Deal with it.
I like the new movies. It's a great passing of the torch. I really like how Luke went out. On his own terms no one beat him.
To me Ray is simply the force trying to restore balance after the mess up that the Skywalker line wrecked on it.
I think this is a bit insane to say, since the Star Wars franchise really was in all actuality, a family story, the story of the Skywalker family. And this is what pisses off a massive amount of people. I expected lots of the character in EP7 to be somehow connected to the original characters. And then astonishingly in EP8 you find out that all the theories were NOTHING and that all these characters are just new characters.
Also I might add that, even as standalone film, I judge them negatively. The first film was decent, but the sequel just dropped the ball in terms of character building. They are making this franchise to be about Rey (the Mary Sue), but what happened to the Black guy Finn? He was an entertaining character, I would have liked him to be a secret son of Mace Windu or something, and be force sensitive, not just a character made to prop up the Mary Sue (and increase diversity quotas). The arch villain (Snoke) was disappointingly killed. The son of Han Solo doesn't make for a convincing villain, just a conflicted teen. And on and on I could go about the flaws in the writing, which is atrocious.
When you finally realise that these are mediocre films made to attract the generation Z sci fi viewers, make lots of easy cash, and not make great SW entries in the franchise...That's when you feel depressed. Oh Lucas what did you do?
I like the new movies. It's a great passing of the torch. I really like how Luke went out. On his own terms no one beat him.
To me Ray is simply the force trying to restore balance after the mess up that the Skywalker line wrecked on it.
I think this is a bit insane to say, since the Star Wars franchise really was in all actuality, a family story, the story of the Skywalker family. And this is what pisses off a massive amount of people. I expected lots of the character in EP7 to be somehow connected to the original characters. And then astonishingly in EP8 you find out that all the theories were NOTHING and that all these characters are just new characters.
Also I might add that, even as standalone film, I judge them negatively. The first film was decent, but the sequel just dropped the ball in terms of character building. They are making this franchise to be about Rey (the Mary Sue), but what happened to the Black guy Finn? He was an entertaining character, I would have liked him to be a secret son of Mace Windu or something, and be force sensitive, not just a character made to prop up the Mary Sue (and increase diversity quotas). The arch villain (Snoke) was disappointingly killed. The son of Han Solo doesn't make for a convincing villain, just a conflicted teen. And on and on I could go about the flaws in the writing, which is atrocious.
When you finally realise that these are mediocre films made to attract the generation Z sci fi viewers, make lots of easy cash, and not make great SW entries in the franchise...That's when you feel depressed. Oh Lucas what did you do?
and here I though star wars was samurais and cowboys in space
However, even so, TLJ contradicts this. A milennia of structured training to build the perfect Sith has no purpose if the force can just make the Jedi with no training equally powerful and vice versa.
First of all, none of this is real. It can be changed, altered, added upon, expanded at any time.
Because it's fiction, the force can do whatever "it" wants to do. Or perhaps a new player enters the stage who is a savant and can make leaps where others require months.
I don't have words for this. If the literal most basic rules of your universe are so fluid that they are subject to sudden, massive retcons on a whim, you don't have a well thought out setting. You have worldbuilding soup.
Also, even savants require proper training. They don't just pick up a sword and suddenly top masters with decades of experience or fly a ship better than a master pilot within minutes of stepping on deck. Rey isn't learning at an accelerated rate - because she already knows everything.
Have respect for the basic tenants of storywriting. All fiction is flexible to a point, but a writer incapable of following basic rules is a hack.
I have the Star Wars Encyclopedias, which I read for fun, and their shit is all over the place, so it's like any other large expansive IP with many creators in the mix, and there's a range of hack to hegemony throughout.
I want to see/play Darth Bane's story, personally.
However, even so, TLJ contradicts this. A milennia of structured training to build the perfect Sith has no purpose if the force can just make the Jedi with no training equally powerful and vice versa.
First of all, none of this is real. It can be changed, altered, added upon, expanded at any time.
Because it's fiction, the force can do whatever "it" wants to do. Or perhaps a new player enters the stage who is a savant and can make leaps where others require months.
I don't have words for this. If the literal most basic rules of your universe are so fluid that they are subject to sudden, massive retcons on a whim, you don't have a well thought out setting. You have worldbuilding soup.
Also, even savants require proper training. They don't just pick up a sword and suddenly top masters with decades of experience or fly a ship better than a master pilot within minutes of stepping on deck. Rey isn't learning at an accelerated rate - because she already knows everything.
Have respect for the basic tenants of storywriting. All fiction is flexible to a point, but a writer incapable of following basic rules is a hack.
look sorry to burst your bubble but there's too much geek love for this stuff. Sure, I agree, a properly thought out world and set of stories should be cohesive. But given that sooooo many people have had their hands on it, it's just not going to stay the same.
Heck, even George Lucas, the man who invented this world, even he had 3 "not so great" movies (my girlfriend calls them crap) and it was his property to make or break. I mean, he came up with the whole Midichlorians.
As far as "even savants need training;" this is not the first story to have a character who surpasses those around them who are considered masters. I believe the Jack Chalker books "Four Lords in the Diamond" had a character who very quickly became master of his particular world's "rules."
Wasn't their also a set of fantasy books (main character was called Pug of all stupid names) whose main character was lousy at spell casting when he "suddenly discovered" he was master of a greater magic that controlled all other magics.
The idea of a master who can be bested by someone with insane innate talent is an extremely fun premise.
There is also a difference between "following the rules" and altering them to suit your needs. If you think that strictly "following the rules" is means "good" I'll remind you that even beethoven used parallel 5ths in one of his pieces (which is not considered good) and I won't even start on Debussy who is a genius as well and whose music basically breaks all those rules.
It's not about breaking rules so much as breaking rules in a way that opens up the medium you are working in.
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Should also add that there were people who felt that the original Star Wars wasn't all that.
The New Yorker’s Pauline Kael famously claimed that it was assembled of spare parts and had no emotional grip
Pete Hamill of the New York Post said, flat out, that Star Wars couldn’t be the best picture of any year that had Annie Hall in it. Notorious showbiz columnist Barbara Bladen wrote on May 27, 1977 that there was no way Star Wars was the best, “because one can’t get emotionally involved with the characters and that’s the mark of a meaningful film in my thinking.”
And yet people have grown to love the characters, do consider the first (at least two) movies to have emotional grip and that they are actually meaningful.
That's the problem, people who have gotten used to one thing have problems letting go and taking new things for what they are. I very much believe, much like my own 10 year old self watching the first Star Wars, that there are 10 year olds now who are in love with the new movies and don't care about anything other than what they see before them. I saw one at the first of the new movies, little kid, just clapping his hands like mad and looking toward his father.
that to me shows much.
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companies are for the quick buck now so cant see any good real mmos coming out for along time if ever again. why do you think all those crap arena and survival games are still flooding the market they are cheap and quick to make due to the limmited content. You can blame awards like the oscars and such for why most movies now are over dramatised crap with little entertainment might be good the the awards but they sure are crap as entertainment.
Wasn't their also a set of fantasy books (main character was called Pug of all stupid names) whose main character was lousy at spell casting when he "suddenly discovered" he was master of a greater magic that controlled all other magics.
The idea of a master who can be bested by someone with insane innate talent is an extremely fun premise.
Just to correct you slightly on this one (because the Riftwar Saga is my fav :-) )
Macros the Black, the most powerful magician on the planet and a time traveller, travelled back in time to Pugs birth and magically altered the child so as to unlock the potential for great power. He only left the child attuned to greater magic, which at the time had no practicioners on the planet. He was not attuned to lesser magic, which is what his first master tried to teach him.
It was only after having been taken to another planet which did have practicitioners of greater magic that he was able to wield it. But, it still took him 4 years of intense training (most of which was spent in a trance of some sort) before he was able to wield magic at the basic level of mages on that planet. It then took another year or two to be able to operate at power levels above normal mages.
The "sudden discovery" came about 5 years later when, whilst being tortured, he came do discover that there are no paths of magic, just magic in general. This then allowed him to use lesser path magic, for which he'd spent years training in already with his first master. Whilst this gave him a big advantage at that point, it was still consistent with other characters in the book (and even more characters who came later) but also has real world parallels in a hell of a lot of psychology.
His power did eventually get ridiculous and all powerful but it took like 100+ years of constant training and work to get to that point (and it was this very escalation that put me off the series).
I know it's not really on topic so much, but yeh, Raymond E Feist's Riftwar Saga with Pug did remain internally coherant, but the very escalation issue in the further books caused real problems and annoyed fans, just like the escalation issue with the force is annoying a lot of Star Wars fans.
And yeh, Pug is a stupid name, but after a while it becomes very endearing and perfectly matches the character.
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Pug is a terrible example and you would know had you read the books. There were two paths of magic and he wasn't able to comprehend the Lesser Path. Also, once he entered training for the Greater path, he was there for years.
Pug is a terrible example and you would know had you read the books. There were two paths of magic and he wasn't able to comprehend the Lesser Path. Also, once he entered training for the Greater path, he was there for years.
Well, it was a long time ago so I'll acknowledge that that's my memory. I mean, I did read them as they came out.
Thanks to cameltosis for the nicely done correction and background as I absolutely didn't remember which book that was.
I'll still hold with the "the force is a type of magic" and it can change, morph and do whatever it can because it's not real. As long as it's done well. Of course, if you buy the midichlorian re-write then you'll have to come up with how it's all done.
I prefer the original idea.
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Should also add that there were people who felt that the original Star Wars wasn't all that.
The New Yorker’s Pauline Kael famously claimed that it was assembled of spare parts and had no emotional grip
Pete Hamill of the New York Post said, flat out, that Star Wars couldn’t be the best picture of any year that had Annie Hall in it. Notorious showbiz columnist Barbara Bladen wrote on May 27, 1977 that there was no way Star Wars was the best, “because one can’t get emotionally involved with the characters and that’s the mark of a meaningful film in my thinking.”
And yet people have grown to love the characters, do consider the first (at least two) movies to have emotional grip and that they are actually meaningful.
That's the problem, people who have gotten used to one thing have problems letting go and taking new things for what they are. I very much believe, much like my own 10 year old self watching the first Star Wars, that there are 10 year olds now who are in love with the new movies and don't care about anything other than what they see before them. I saw one at the first of the new movies, little kid, just clapping his hands like mad and looking toward his father.
that to me shows much.
My daughter, who's 21, only got into Star Trek with the new JJ Abrams reboots in the alternate timeline and she only got into Star Wars when we binged on the first 6 movies in one winter weekend when she was 16.
She's since become a big fan of both (although Dr. Who is still her favorite scifi) and has watched a lot of the old stuff.
She loves the new SW movies as only a new fan can. And yes, Rey is her favorite. She's a girl after all.
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Pug is a terrible example and you would know had you read the books. There were two paths of magic and he wasn't able to comprehend the Lesser Path. Also, once he entered training for the Greater path, he was there for years.
Well, it was a long time ago so I'll acknowledge that that's my memory. I mean, I did read them as they came out.
Thanks to cameltosis for the nicely done correction and background as I absolutely didn't remember which book that was.
I'll still hold with the "the force is a type of magic" and it can change, morph and do whatever it can because it's not real. As long as it's done well. Of course, if you buy the midichlorian re-write then you'll have to come up with how it's all done.
I prefer the original idea.
I thought you were thinking of Lyndon Hardy's Master of Five Magics books. Don't remember the name of the main character; don't think it was Pug, though.
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Pug is a terrible example and you would know had you read the books. There were two paths of magic and he wasn't able to comprehend the Lesser Path. Also, once he entered training for the Greater path, he was there for years.
Well, it was a long time ago so I'll acknowledge that that's my memory. I mean, I did read them as they came out.
Thanks to cameltosis for the nicely done correction and background as I absolutely didn't remember which book that was.
I'll still hold with the "the force is a type of magic" and it can change, morph and do whatever it can because it's not real. As long as it's done well. Of course, if you buy the midichlorian re-write then you'll have to come up with how it's all done.
I prefer the original idea.
I thought you were thinking of Lyndon Hardy's Master of Five Magics books. Don't remember the name of the main character; don't think it was Pug, though.
oh oh oh oh!!!! You know.... I think you are right. I mean, I did read the riftwarbooks but master of five magics rings a bigger bell.
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Of course SW is still a great brand, but the sequel trilogy really buried SW as a franchise, since nobody is interested in the new characters and their future. I think there has never been less enthusiasm for the conclusion of a trilogy than this next film, and it's coming out in December! People don't give a single shit. And despite the problems with the prequels, "Revenge of the Sith" was one of the most viewed films of the SW franchise and people really awaited each new film. Star wars was still Star Wars.
It leaves the future of SW in a difficult position. What do they do with it next? Who is going to resurrect that franchise? Who is going to take that burden? If only they'd actually give the fans a democratic platform for discussion/ideas, I think it would be a great place to start. For example, I and many fans probably think that going with an Obi-Wan stand alone film would be amazing (exploring his youth maybe). Anyhow, Starwars, like the Blizzard games, are a franchise which has gone to the slavers.
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What was really great about SWG in my opinion, besides what you mention (the many classes) was just the nature of SWG as an open world environment. I mean this was a game that took the massive in "MMORPG" seriously. I still remember starting on Tattoine, and just one planet was the size of modern games like SWTOR. The planets being so massive was great.
The combat system and pretty much everything was overly difficult and messed up though lol. The game was just weird & buggy, and unfinished in many places.
But again we're not going to see games of that magnitude for a long time. We have passed the age of these types of games. We have to wait until the next age of great multiplayer games. We might wait forever.
To me Ray is simply the force trying to restore balance after the mess up that the Skywalker line wrecked on it.
Like, even if Rise of Skywaler is the worst movie in the history of cinema, worse than Sharknado, it's still going to rake in billions for years to come through other forms.
I don't think we'll be getting a SW MMO though. Single player (online only), co-op at best games. That's what sells without having to worry about new content to keep the suckers that already paid for your product and don't plan to spend much more. It's the reason MMOs died as a genre. It's too expensive to keep them up. SP is good for publishers. Tons of ppl buy the game and you have 0 obligations to them. Fetch in the occasional DLC with 2-3 quests and rake in some nice cashback.
Yes, DLCs and seasons passes killed MMOs because they work. Deal with it.
OOps! I mean...
There'll be another Star Wars MMORPG someday, and I hope that they'll combine the best attributes from Galaxies and SWTOR into one game.
In the meantime, if any true fan wants to get funding and do better, I'd be happy to see how it works out within the box they're made to do it in.
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Also I might add that, even as standalone film, I judge them negatively. The first film was decent, but the sequel just dropped the ball in terms of character building. They are making this franchise to be about Rey (the Mary Sue), but what happened to the Black guy Finn? He was an entertaining character, I would have liked him to be a secret son of Mace Windu or something, and be force sensitive, not just a character made to prop up the Mary Sue (and increase diversity quotas). The arch villain (Snoke) was disappointingly killed. The son of Han Solo doesn't make for a convincing villain, just a conflicted teen. And on and on I could go about the flaws in the writing, which is atrocious.
When you finally realise that these are mediocre films made to attract the generation Z sci fi viewers, make lots of easy cash, and not make great SW entries in the franchise...That's when you feel depressed. Oh Lucas what did you do?
Also, even savants require proper training. They don't just pick up a sword and suddenly top masters with decades of experience or fly a ship better than a master pilot within minutes of stepping on deck. Rey isn't learning at an accelerated rate - because she already knows everything.
Have respect for the basic tenants of storywriting. All fiction is flexible to a point, but a writer incapable of following basic rules is a hack.
I want to see/play Darth Bane's story, personally.
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Heck, even George Lucas, the man who invented this world, even he had 3 "not so great" movies (my girlfriend calls them crap) and it was his property to make or break. I mean, he came up with the whole Midichlorians.
As far as "even savants need training;" this is not the first story to have a character who surpasses those around them who are considered masters. I believe the Jack Chalker books "Four Lords in the Diamond" had a character who very quickly became master of his particular world's "rules."
Wasn't their also a set of fantasy books (main character was called Pug of all stupid names) whose main character was lousy at spell casting when he "suddenly discovered" he was master of a greater magic that controlled all other magics.
The idea of a master who can be bested by someone with insane innate talent is an extremely fun premise.
There is also a difference between "following the rules" and altering them to suit your needs. If you think that strictly "following the rules" is means "good" I'll remind you that even beethoven used parallel 5ths in one of his pieces (which is not considered good) and I won't even start on Debussy who is a genius as well and whose music basically breaks all those rules.
It's not about breaking rules so much as breaking rules in a way that opens up the medium you are working in.
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The New Yorker’s Pauline Kael famously claimed that it was assembled of spare parts and had no emotional grip
Pete Hamill of the New York Post said, flat out, that Star Wars couldn’t be the best picture of any year that had Annie Hall in it. Notorious showbiz columnist Barbara Bladen wrote on May 27, 1977 that there was no way Star Wars was the best, “because one can’t get emotionally involved with the characters and that’s the mark of a meaningful film in my thinking.”
And yet people have grown to love the characters, do consider the first (at least two) movies to have emotional grip and that they are actually meaningful.
That's the problem, people who have gotten used to one thing have problems letting go and taking new things for what they are. I very much believe, much like my own 10 year old self watching the first Star Wars, that there are 10 year olds now who are in love with the new movies and don't care about anything other than what they see before them. I saw one at the first of the new movies, little kid, just clapping his hands like mad and looking toward his father.
that to me shows much.
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She's since become a big fan of both (although Dr. Who is still her favorite scifi) and has watched a lot of the old stuff.
She loves the new SW movies as only a new fan can. And yes, Rey is her favorite. She's a girl after all.
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Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo