It has kept Star Citizen in this site's frontpage every single day for many years now making them CIG's biggest marketing effort never needing to have paid for promoted features and ads here to have their game being the talk of the site :P
Well if they have babsies, piggies and bunnies doing all their marketing for free... they don't need to pay for it.
If only the game was good and we wanted to play it we wouldn't need to forum PvP and we could do it ingame!
It has kept Star Citizen in this site's frontpage every single day for many years now making them CIG's biggest marketing effort never needing to have paid for promoted features and ads here to have their game being the talk of the site :P
Well if they have babsies, piggies and bunnies doing all their marketing for free... they don't need to pay for it.
If only the game was good and we wanted to play it we wouldn't need to forum PvP and we could do it ingame!
Problem is you wasted all your skill points on the forum pvp tree and now you just die in-game, maybe one day you'll reset that skill tree to give the game a fair chance instead of being triggered at it all the time
btw the naysaying is the majority of this forum's activity not who is posting on the actual game, so can't take much credit for that oO
If this game fails, then it is a kick in the head for kickstarter games...I mean if they can't make it with the resources they have been given, then something is drastically wrong.
If this game fails, then it is a kick in the head for kickstarter games...I mean if they can't make it with the resources they have been given, then something is drastically wrong.
You forget that there are and have been a LOT of successful Kickstarter and crowdfunding games already. Some finished, some in development. Many of them good. There also have been some Kickstarter fails too. So i am not sure why this should be a "kick in the head".
Especially as only 0.87 % of the SC money comes from the Kickstarter campaign. Less, if you factor in the extra money from the billionaire investors.
Why do we keep having these threads? It's literally copy and paste from EVERY other thread about SC. Whatever camp you are in, you are there and aren't changing sides. What's the point of this same old "discussion" every time?
Because trolls like trolling and haters like hating, that attracts fans as well who like countering them, and it keeps going on like that in a copy/paste circle, such is this forum in a nutshell.
Ofc a vast generalization just hitting at the core of what drives this place and why it is stalled on the copy-pasting of the same thing in every thread.
It has kept Star Citizen in this site's frontpage every single day for many years now making them CIG's biggest marketing effort never needing to have paid for promoted features and ads here to have their game being the talk of the site :P
It's not just the trolls and haters, it's the white knight camp as well who can't admit the many shortcomings of this games development. I guess the circle of forum pvp life will continue unabated with the same old things being said over and over and over...........and over.........
It's not just the trolls and haters, it's the white knight camp as well who can't admit the many shortcomings of this games development. I guess the circle of forum pvp life will continue unabated with the same old things being said over and over and over...........and over.........
Carry on then.
Well I know I do, what polarizes the discussion is this huge hyperbole on discussions that do not allow for middle-ground.
If I go to the actual backer base, say the reddit or our own discord guilds talking about the game, we more openly talk about the issues and all that because there isn't the extreme polarization of sides mostly fed by a level of hyperbole that can't be reasoned with.
Why do we keep having these threads? It's literally copy and paste from EVERY other thread about SC. Whatever camp you are in, you are there and aren't changing sides. What's the point of this same old "discussion" every time?
Because trolls like trolling and haters like hating, that attracts fans as well who like countering them, and it keeps going on like that in a copy/paste circle, such is this forum in a nutshell.
Ofc a vast generalization just hitting at the core of what drives this place and why it is stalled on the copy-pasting of the same thing in every thread.
It has kept Star Citizen in this site's frontpage every single day for many years now making them CIG's biggest marketing effort never needing to have paid for promoted features and ads here to have their game being the talk of the site :P
It's not just the trolls and haters, it's the white knight camp as well who can't admit the many shortcomings of this games development. I guess the circle of forum pvp life will continue unabated with the same old things being said over and over and over...........and over.........
Carry on then.
Well I know I do, what polarizes the discussion is this huge hyperbole on discussions that do not allow for middle-ground.
If I go to the actual backer base, say the reddit or our own discord guilds talking about the game, we more openly talk about the issues and all that because there isn't the extreme polarization of sides mostly fed by a level of hyperbole that can't be reasoned with.
It is what it is really.
I’m part of the actual backer base. 3 accounts actually. Keep in mind that just a small fraction of backers use your Reddit or Discord.
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Considering OP's @rpmcmurphy eagerness to publicize this show in advance it seems strange to not get an update after so many days...
Makes you wonder...
Why should he care?
>>> The fact that investigations into this game happen on a regular basis
show that there is a problem, these people aren't doing it because
they're haters.... >>>
Because this TV show maybe was not QUITE the "investigation" he had in mind :-D ;-)
Personally i classified it as a pre-Christmas FREE advertisement deluxe
Look, you either like the game or you don't, I get that, but some of you folks act like presenting any fact is wrong. If you think that even after all the money pledged and the long development cycle of this game is a good thing then why try to get threads locked discussing what some might consider a negative?
It would seem you would want to be upfront and honest to attract more players, not scare them away with your strange gas-lighting tactics. Lots of the hostility you face is because you discount the main beef most people have this game. The only thing I can assume is that the reason you argue against facts is because you are embarrassed by the truth. I can take criticism of games I enjoy, I can also criticize games I enjoy, it seems none of you are capable of that.
I get this game is the butt of all crowd funding jokes, but instead of showing static screenshots of sunsets, why not show off some actual story quests that would help sway people away from assuming the game is a big empty shallow experience?
Look, you either like the game or you don't, I get that, but some of you folks act like presenting any fact is wrong. If you think that even after all the money pledged and the long development cycle of this game is a good thing then why try to get threads locked discussing what some might consider a negative?
It would seem you would want to be upfront and honest to attract more players, not scare them away with your strange gas-lighting tactics. Lots of the hostility you face is because you discount the main beef most people have this game. The only thing I can assume is that the reason you argue against facts is because you are embarrassed by the truth. I can take criticism of games I enjoy, I can also criticize games I enjoy, it seems none of you are capable of that.
I get this game is the butt of all crowd funding jokes, but instead of showing static screenshots of sunsets, why not show off some actual story quests that would help sway people away from assuming the game is a big empty shallow experience?
I don't get how that post has anything to do with me asking OP for updates about this thread.
But.....You're dead wrong if you think any of my posting has the purpose of "attracting
more players" lol
Au contraire dear commando, It's with the greatest pleasure that I would see my posting "scare" away any hater, troll or cynic. As they are not a kind of gamer I would want playing Star Citizen anyway
You see, it's not crowdfunding or the games being developed that are the butt of all jokes, but those hating on it falling flat on their faces while it's getting done!
So.... about that BBC Click investigation! Nothing yet?
If you gave me a $15, I could buy a model airplane kit, some glue, and some paint. That would be a manageable project and I would finish it fairly quickly.
But if you gave me $256 million, I would want to build the greatest model airplane the world has ever seen. Then my project would grow and grow and grow, and I would still be attempting perfection, to where I may never finish.
SC is a HUGE undertaking. Just looking at some of what they have done makes me hyperventilate, as I imagine trying to finish the job. I am skeptical they really can finish it, no matter how much money they raise at this point. But we will see.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
Look, you either like the game or you don't, I get that, but some of you folks act like presenting any fact is wrong. If you think that even after all the money pledged and the long development cycle of this game is a good thing then why try to get threads locked discussing what some might consider a negative?
It would seem you would want to be upfront and honest to attract more players, not scare them away with your strange gas-lighting tactics. Lots of the hostility you face is because you discount the main beef most people have this game. The only thing I can assume is that the reason you argue against facts is because you are embarrassed by the truth. I can take criticism of games I enjoy, I can also criticize games I enjoy, it seems none of you are capable of that.
I get this game is the butt of all crowd funding jokes, but instead of showing static screenshots of sunsets, why not show off some actual story quests that would help sway people away from assuming the game is a big empty shallow experience?
Well, you COULD try to google "Star Citizen quests", but i guess that would not QUITE fit your narrative. People could discover that there are quite a few quests to play already in the Alpha.
What you call "the butt of all crowd funding jokes" is actually the most successful crowdfunding project EVER. And i do not mean games. I mean ANY category. Feel free to check out the "Guiness Book of Records". So the joke is on you.
You mention "the main beef most people have with this game". The "truth" as i see it is that these people do not matter. Only the backers of this project matter. Because it is a crowdfunding game. And the vast majority of them VERY OBVIOUSLY keep supporting this project. And thousands more join Star Citizen every month. So i could not care less what beef these "other people" that do not join and do not plan to join this crowdfunding campaign have with Star Citizen. It is not their project. There are tenthousands of other games out there for them to play.
The past has shown that there IS a use for them. Their impotent attempts to imply scandal and scam have kept Star Citizen in the news. So even their "bad news" is good news for Star Citizen.
And i have repeatedly thanked them for that here in this forum.
They came out and said it wasn't a scam because backers could play a game now and because it is obvious work is still being done on it because it gets frequent patches and updates. Also RSI is very forthcoming with information.
They chalked it up to ambition is why the game is taking so long because SC is doing something no one has really tried to do before.
Thats the cliff notes version
Thanks, I appreciate it!
I guess they had free air time and had to fill it with something... I wanted the juice! Kind of a let down.
That's what the BBC gets for only doing a few seasons on awesome shows. They have to keep going until they jump the shark twice, like Americans do it.
Seems like a misnomer for them to say no one has tried to make a really big game before though.
Minecraft is never-ending and one guy did that. :P
Well there is another angle to see it IF only you CARE about the state of game design and gaming in general.
The other angle is that the community and gamer's in general DO MATTER because they are the ones criticizing and wanting to know WHY this guy is exploiting people long term for more money than is needed.
If all one cares about are the ones handing them money,then the entire state of humanity is a complete fail.If you cannot see the analogy...reasoning,i can explain further.
it is like saying my next door neighbor doesn't matter,the doctors don't matter,cops don't matter,school teachers don't matter,NOBODY on this planet matters to me unless they are giving me money.Or if you didn't elect the prime minister or your government,you shouldn't matter as a citizen anymore because you didn't vote for that winner?
There is a VERY big picture out there,one MANY people realized over 10 years ago but obviously many right now seem to have no clue.it is called setting a TREND in the marketplace,why do you think we now have so many cash shop games,crowd funded games,over the top costly mobile games?It is because some scummy people came up with ideas to make money with no care for the consumer at all,it worked so then we get all the developers doing it.
I do NOT want ANYMORE crowd funded crap because it is all crap,i want real developers that know how to balance a budget and know what they are doing and this Robert's guy is a complete fail.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Golden Ticket backer here (3 accounts). Huge WingCommander fan. I even liked CR’s WingCommander movie. If I could get my cash back I’d do so.
That said, there have been a ton of free access weekends for perspective backers to join and check it out for free. If they buy in at this point, it’s on them.
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If only the game was good and we wanted to play it we wouldn't need to forum PvP and we could do it ingame!
..Cake..
btw the naysaying is the majority of this forum's activity not who is posting on the actual game, so can't take much credit for that oO
Carry on then.
If I go to the actual backer base, say the reddit or our own discord guilds talking about the game, we more openly talk about the issues and all that because there isn't the extreme polarization of sides mostly fed by a level of hyperbole that can't be reasoned with.
It is what it is really.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Why should he care?
I don't care enough to search for myself.
Thanks a bundle,
Gut Out!
What, me worry?
If you gave me a $15, I could buy a model airplane kit, some glue, and some paint. That would be a manageable project and I would finish it fairly quickly.
But if you gave me $256 million, I would want to build the greatest model airplane the world has ever seen. Then my project would grow and grow and grow, and I would still be attempting perfection, to where I may never finish.
SC is a HUGE undertaking. Just looking at some of what they have done makes me hyperventilate, as I imagine trying to finish the job. I am skeptical they really can finish it, no matter how much money they raise at this point. But we will see.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
I guess they had free air time and had to fill it with something... I wanted the juice! Kind of a let down.
That's what the BBC gets for only doing a few seasons on awesome shows. They have to keep going until they jump the shark twice, like Americans do it.
Seems like a misnomer for them to say no one has tried to make a really big game before though.
Minecraft is never-ending and one guy did that. :P
Gut Out!
What, me worry?
The other angle is that the community and gamer's in general DO MATTER because they are the ones criticizing and wanting to know WHY this guy is exploiting people long term for more money than is needed.
If all one cares about are the ones handing them money,then the entire state of humanity is a complete fail.If you cannot see the analogy...reasoning,i can explain further.
it is like saying my next door neighbor doesn't matter,the doctors don't matter,cops don't matter,school teachers don't matter,NOBODY on this planet matters to me unless they are giving me money.Or if you didn't elect the prime minister or your government,you shouldn't matter as a citizen anymore because you didn't vote for that winner?
There is a VERY big picture out there,one MANY people realized over 10 years ago but obviously many right now seem to have no clue.it is called setting a TREND in the marketplace,why do you think we now have so many cash shop games,crowd funded games,over the top costly mobile games?It is because some scummy people came up with ideas to make money with no care for the consumer at all,it worked so then we get all the developers doing it.
I do NOT want ANYMORE crowd funded crap because it is all crap,i want real developers that know how to balance a budget and know what they are doing and this Robert's guy is a complete fail.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Would you rather:
A) Loot boxes for a few bucks each, random junk usually, or....
Huge WingCommander fan.
I even liked CR’s WingCommander movie.
If I could get my cash back I’d do so.
That said, there have been a ton of free access weekends for perspective backers to join and check it out for free. If they buy in at this point, it’s on them.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018