No one with a brain takes the BBC seriously any more. They used to be one of the most respected news outlets in the world for probing, honest and objective journalism. Then a bunch of loons took over and now it just puts out incredibly biased 'moral outrage' agenda-driven garbage.
I'm pretty sure there are more people takes BBC seriously than the amount of people that takes fanbois seriously, lol :P
Its a pyramid scheme but go ahead and "believe" in space Roberto. He just feeds you with space ships models..its a model craft game. I wonder where he will buy his next house for you money donated..maybe he will try experience to live on the moon ? should be possible for 30 mill $
I've enjoyed that this thread has broken into a math debate somehow. But the real kicker is that it's a debate over how to do like 4th grade math. Averages are so tough with all that addition and division.
If I want a world in which people can purchase success and power with cash, I'll play Real Life. Keep Virtual Worlds Virtual!
I've enjoyed that this thread has broken into a math debate somehow. But the real kicker is that it's a debate over how to do like 4th grade math. Averages are so tough with all that addition and division.
I love that @Vrika put a stop to it with fact. Math does not lie.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
I've enjoyed that this thread has broken into a math debate somehow. But the real kicker is that it's a debate over how to do like 4th grade math. Averages are so tough with all that addition and division.
The rabbit sits back and grins after the thread goes down in a tsunami of debate over basic math.
as an edit: you can find the hate group... as they never cite or source information.... except from bad sources or biased materials.... many they made themselves....
yup. hate group still hates and the backers still back....
game keeps getting developed....
ironic how everyone makes things out to be what they are not.... yet never cite or source.... just assume..... rule of thumb... ignore everyone, try it yourself when free.
as an edit: you can find the hate group... as they never cite or source information.... except from bad sources or biased materials.... many they made themselves....
So it was a proof of concept promo for SC paid for by TV Tax money. Nice.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
as an edit: you can find the hate group... as they never cite or source information.... except from bad sources or biased materials.... many they made themselves....
So it was a proof of concept promo for SC paid for by TV Tax money. Nice.
was it? or did you learn something? I learned this forum is full of hilarious opinionated people.... fact check first. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC that means this show reached more people than the hate group that's for sure. [welcome to entertainment news..... fox... cnn... and many many others.... that never cite or source] it also raises the question: why is the hate group trying to pre-empt news sites..... like the forbes hit piece.... hate group must be loosing the battle again... beacause you cant 90 days and be breaking funding records year after year after year....
as an edit: you can find the hate group... as they never cite or source information.... except from bad sources or biased materials.... many they made themselves....
So it was a proof of concept promo for SC paid for by TV Tax money. Nice.
was it? or did you learn something? I learned this forum is full of hilarious opinionated people.... fact check first. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC that means this show reached more people than the hate group that's for sure. [welcome to entertainment news..... fox... cnn... and many many others.... that never cite or source] it also raises the question: why is the hate group trying to pre-empt news sites..... like the forbes hit piece.... hate group must be loosing the battle again... beacause you cant 90 days and be breaking funding records year after year after year....
Dude I have zero idea what the actual fuck you are on about. What is this "hate group" you keep mentioning? You sound like a broken SPLC/ADL rant.
Yes the BBC piece was a milquetoast attempt to generate clicks (imagine that considering the name) with no actual investigation into the glacial process of SC. No substance at all except a lucky journalist got to GTFO of dreary England and go to sunny California on the taxpayers dime/shilling/whatever.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
You can see here how over the top AJ is endorsing this product while it was in the early KS'r phase to the point i was VERY skeptical of it being a PAID endorsement.
Now perhaps there is a chance AJ was THAT crazy over the top out of character endorsing a DREAM project but Fast forward and his tone changes.He was even criticized for his interview/questions during a Citizencon event.An event they wanted to charge people to watch but removed the cost after criticism.
The latter videos from 2018 are more in character with AJ,skeptical ,needs to try the game first and then give an opinion.Furthermore in that early clip,he mentions "a name i can TRUST"well Chris was known for NOT meeting his budgets.There was even an interview along the way where Chris stated that meeting budgets is nearly impossible and that you need a big money backer.So the word TRUST was VERY loosely used.
My point is that if the BBC wants to investigate something,do some homework,get in touch with the FTC and have the books audited to see if Aj was PAID to endorse the game during KS'r and not acknowledging it.Tough to ask AJ himself because he would be incriminating himself as well as SC.Would be interesting to see if a deal could be made whereby if Aj rats out Chris Robert's/team he is void of any incrimination.
The best part in a recent video....AJ mentions 5...FIVE years of pre Alpha lmao.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
The bigger problem i have is that early on Chris himself stated he only needed around 6 million.Later on when a LOT of criticism over spending and his wife's expenditures were brought about he said he didn't even need the money,he had his own from previous business sales deals.
Well we pole vaulted way beyond that 6 mil mark VERY early on and he had NOTHING to show.Yep a person we can TRUST.Geesh for the longest time all he had was a ship hangar..sigh.Well yeah you need something to show off those purchases right?
Again further down the early years he was selling ships that were NOT ready to be delivered and some were not skinned either.
Of course none of this even mentions selling VIRTUAL ships for more than an entire video game is worth.That is the laughable part when i read so many defensive posturing remarks like "you have any idea how much time it takes to build a game like this".Chris stated 6 million,so NOT that long.
What does over pricing virtual ships have to do with how long it takes anyhow?he is exploiting STUPIDITY and there are lots of customers to be had.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
The bigger problem i have is that early on Chris himself stated he only needed around 6 million.Later on when a LOT of criticism over spending and his wife's expenditures were brought about he said he didn't even need the money,he had his own from previous business sales deals.
Well we pole vaulted way beyond that 6 mil mark VERY early on and he had NOTHING to show.Yep a person we can TRUST.Geesh for the longest time all he had was a ship hangar..sigh.Well yeah you need something to show off those purchases right?
Again further down the early years he was selling ships that were NOT ready to be delivered and some were not skinned either.
Of course none of this even mentions selling VIRTUAL ships for more than an entire video game is worth.That is the laughable part when i read so many defensive posturing remarks like "you have any idea how much time it takes to build a game like this".Chris stated 6 million,so NOT that long.
What does over pricing virtual ships have to do with how long it takes anyhow?he is exploiting STUPIDITY and there are lots of customers to be had.
OPEN DEVELOPMENT.... not "hey we made millions... we are not making anything new or improving...."
DIRECT QUOTE.... since people cannot google.... or keep up.... "If you have followed Star Citizen from our kickoff in October, 2012, you know that the game we’re building today is a bigger and more technically accomplished project than I thought was possible back then. The original crowd funding goal was to raise enough money to deliver regular community updates, access to the multiplayer dogfighting alpha and a single player campaign called Squadron 42. You can see the first goal, which was achieved on 25th of October 2012 here. It’s no secret that I originally thought I would have to build a smaller game first and then over time add features and content to get close to the full living universe that I have always wanted to realize. This community came together and, both through your financial support and your belief in the project, made something incredible possible. You went above and beyond in backing our dream and so we are going to, also. Because of you, we’re building cities where I had hoped for just landing pads, we’re building armadas of starships where I asked for squadrons and we’re populating a living, breathing world in ways I didn’t dare to dream of in 2012."
The bigger problem i have is that early on Chris himself stated he only needed around 6 million.Later on when a LOT of criticism over spending and his wife's expenditures were brought about he said he didn't even need the money,he had his own from previous business sales deals.
Well we pole vaulted way beyond that 6 mil mark VERY early on and he had NOTHING to show.Yep a person we can TRUST.Geesh for the longest time all he had was a ship hangar..sigh.Well yeah you need something to show off those purchases right?
Again further down the early years he was selling ships that were NOT ready to be delivered and some were not skinned either.
Of course none of this even mentions selling VIRTUAL ships for more than an entire video game is worth.That is the laughable part when i read so many defensive posturing remarks like "you have any idea how much time it takes to build a game like this".Chris stated 6 million,so NOT that long.
What does over pricing virtual ships have to do with how long it takes anyhow?he is exploiting STUPIDITY and there are lots of customers to be had.
OPEN DEVELOPMENT.... not "hey we made millions... we are not making anything new or improving...."
DIRECT QUOTE.... since people cannot google.... or keep up.... "If you have followed Star Citizen from our kickoff in October, 2012, you know that the game we’re building today is a bigger and more technically accomplished project than I thought was possible back then. The original crowd funding goal was to raise enough money to deliver regular community updates, access to the multiplayer dogfighting alpha and a single player campaign called Squadron 42. You can see the first goal, which was achieved on 25th of October 2012 here. It’s no secret that I originally thought I would have to build a smaller game first and then over time add features and content to get close to the full living universe that I have always wanted to realize. This community came together and, both through your financial support and your belief in the project, made something incredible possible. You went above and beyond in backing our dream and so we are going to, also. Because of you, we’re building cities where I had hoped for just landing pads, we’re building armadas of starships where I asked for squadrons and we’re populating a living, breathing world in ways I didn’t dare to dream of in 2012."
You're wasting your time, @Wizardry does not concern himself with facts or making sense, he just blabbers on about...well no one knows really.
More to the point, I bet SC LOVES all the free advertisement on these boards. I am literally a backer of the game now just because of all the negative feedback I see here. Had it not been for all the whiners and naysayers on these boards it would have fallen off my radar completely.
Thanks for that guys!
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
They were selling a new ship (Ares ION / Inferno $220) which the whales were all over so to imply that the 6 minute slot on a Saturday morning TV show resulted in a million dollar bump is just shill-pumping bullshit.
They were selling a new ship (Ares ION / Inferno $220) which the whales were all over so to imply that the 6 minute slot on a Saturday morning TV show resulted in a million dollar bump is just shill-pumping bullshit.
Yeah, but even if it was, that's some dark shit. Any publicity is good publicity is a scary thought when it applies to a poor offering.
They were selling a new ship (Ares ION / Inferno $220) which the whales were all over so to imply that the 6 minute slot on a Saturday morning TV show resulted in a million dollar bump is just shill-pumping bullshit.
I implied nothing.
I stated a fact: "...the money counter jumped up by another million this weekend."
What YOU make of it .... i do not even TRY to fathom.
More to the point, I bet SC LOVES all the free advertisement on these boards. I am literally a backer of the game now just because of all the negative feedback I see here. Had it not been for all the whiners and naysayers on these boards it would have fallen off my radar completely.
Thanks for that guys!
So why do you guys complain so much when someone criticizes your game then? On one hand you complain to them for criticizing on the other you're thanking them for criticizing.
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If I want a world in which people can purchase success and power with cash, I'll play Real Life. Keep Virtual Worlds Virtual!
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
OR
E/Devolve into debating the nuances of quantum physics and its influence on something or another.
Take your pick.
as an edit: you can find the hate group... as they never cite or source information.... except from bad sources or biased materials.... many they made themselves....
game keeps getting developed....
ironic how everyone makes things out to be what they are not.... yet never cite or source.... just assume..... rule of thumb... ignore everyone, try it yourself when free.
So it was a proof of concept promo for SC paid for by TV Tax money. Nice.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlfZi1eq_88
Now perhaps there is a chance AJ was THAT crazy over the top out of character endorsing a DREAM project but Fast forward and his tone changes.He was even criticized for his interview/questions during a Citizencon event.An event they wanted to charge people to watch but removed the cost after criticism.
The latter videos from 2018 are more in character with AJ,skeptical ,needs to try the game first and then give an opinion.Furthermore in that early clip,he mentions "a name i can TRUST"well Chris was known for NOT meeting his budgets.There was even an interview along the way where Chris stated that meeting budgets is nearly impossible and that you need a big money backer.So the word TRUST was VERY loosely used.
My point is that if the BBC wants to investigate something,do some homework,get in touch with the FTC and have the books audited to see if Aj was PAID to endorse the game during KS'r and not acknowledging it.Tough to ask AJ himself because he would be incriminating himself as well as SC.Would be interesting to see if a deal could be made whereby if Aj rats out Chris Robert's/team he is void of any incrimination.
The best part in a recent video....AJ mentions 5...FIVE years of pre Alpha lmao.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Well we pole vaulted way beyond that 6 mil mark VERY early on and he had NOTHING to show.Yep a person we can TRUST.Geesh for the longest time all he had was a ship hangar..sigh.Well yeah you need something to show off those purchases right?
Again further down the early years he was selling ships that were NOT ready to be delivered and some were not skinned either.
Of course none of this even mentions selling VIRTUAL ships for more than an entire video game is worth.That is the laughable part when i read so many defensive posturing remarks like "you have any idea how much time it takes to build a game like this".Chris stated 6 million,so NOT that long.
What does over pricing virtual ships have to do with how long it takes anyhow?he is exploiting STUPIDITY and there are lots of customers to be had.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
OPEN DEVELOPMENT.... not "hey we made millions... we are not making anything new or improving...."
DIRECT QUOTE.... since people cannot google.... or keep up....
"If you have followed Star Citizen from our kickoff in October, 2012, you know that the game we’re building today is a bigger and more technically accomplished project than I thought was possible back then. The original crowd funding goal was to raise enough money to deliver regular community updates, access to the multiplayer dogfighting alpha and a single player campaign called Squadron 42. You can see the first goal, which was achieved on 25th of October 2012 here. It’s no secret that I originally thought I would have to build a smaller game first and then over time add features and content to get close to the full living universe that I have always wanted to realize. This community came together and, both through your financial support and your belief in the project, made something incredible possible. You went above and beyond in backing our dream and so we are going to, also. Because of you, we’re building cities where I had hoped for just landing pads, we’re building armadas of starships where I asked for squadrons and we’re populating a living, breathing world in ways I didn’t dare to dream of in 2012."
so this: https://v.kickstarter.com/1576365668_549032c7e9683bb28bb46defa315543c855c36ac/projects/365324/video-171354-h264_base.mp4 [the kickstarter video] VS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8F7feQziXs [boredgamer ptu "PUBLIC TEST UNIVERSE" 3.8] and because this is not goodenough: https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Star%20Citizen [live people playing NOW]
More to the point, I bet SC LOVES all the free advertisement on these boards. I am literally a backer of the game now just because of all the negative feedback I see here. Had it not been for all the whiners and naysayers on these boards it would have fallen off my radar completely.
Thanks for that guys!
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
On one hand you complain to them for criticizing on the other you're thanking them for criticizing.
Make up your minds
..Cake..