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ArtCraft Entertainment Closes $12m in Funding, Details Beta - MMORPG.com
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ArtCraft Entertainment Closes $12m in Funding, Details Beta - MMORPG.com
Crowfall's J. Todd Coleman shared a Founder's Update announcing the close of another round of financing for the upcoming MMO.
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I don't back these games because I feel like they just hand out assets on a mass scale to players before the game is even released. And every couple of months they have their hands out again asking for more and giving "future players" even more of an advantage.
I perfectly understand they need to raise funds, but I would be more inclined to give to a company that wasn't using pay to win or pay to advance incentives to reward donors. I don't see this working out in the long term.
This is just my opinion. I know the people investing a lot of money into this game are probably gonna be up in arms over it. But I would be extremely surprised to see this kind of business model create a long term gaming experience. Realistically, anyone who buys the standard edition of the game, is just paying for the opportunity to be a donors peasant.
Your not alone, even amongst us looking forward to the game. It's why even though I'm looking forward to Crowfall, I much prefer the development and the backer store of Camelot Unchained significantly more. Yet, I think not creating their own engine and struggling to host battles 1/100 the size of CU will be Crowfall's downfall rather than it's store.
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You can't purchase resource nodes. I'm not sure where you got that from. The guild halls can only be placed in EKs. EKs are glorified housing. The actual PvP competition will be in the campaigns, where those buildings and parcels that people purchased can't be used.
The only thing that may impact campaigns are the statues, but they haven't been implemented yet, so we don't know exactly what the impact will be. We do know that players will be able to obtain the statues in game and that crafting specific buildings will be required to house the statues in order to get the buffs.
How is the optional sub P2W? Please elaborate, because they removed the extra training from VIP. In fact, we don't even know exactly what's going to be in the VIP sub at this point, so to say it is P2W is ridiculous.
So yes, it depends on the details--and the details aren't yet known. Sure, it could turn into heavy pay to win. Or it might be completely fine. I'm inclined to wait and see before passing judgment.
Having read about buying resource nodes and guild halls it is going to start out very P2W.
its more of a hub multiplayer pvp game.. and gets boring very fast..
same maps over over.. capture that point attack that castle.. no feeling of presistance world or any progress..
i see this game becoming a success for 4/5 months because people are hungry for a good mmorpg.. but this aint gonna be it
Three years after leaving EVE I sometimes still pull up the sovereignty map and see how it has changed. I also mull over the regions I helped take and lose, with many of the same organizations still battling for control of null sec.
It's one of the things that kept me coming back which I'm just not seeing in CFs model, which seems almost like an oversized and extended BR in many ways
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Guild halls can be purchased, but they do nothing but sit in your EK. EKs are not the primary focus of the game. The competition is in the campaigns, where if you want a guild hall, you will actually have to build it.
Arkon Greatsword Relic - Gives +crit chance for harvesting
Golden Dragon Altar Relic - Doesn't specify the type of benefit
Both of these items specifically say that you can obtain them in game:
*All relics can also be found and scavenged from the Campaign Worlds.
So these aren't some exclusive thing where you can only obtain them by spending money. Furthermore, there are restrictions on their use, which you can read about in the game's FAQ. You don't just buy the relic and immediately get the benefit from it.
Relics must be placed in specific buildings in an EK. Most of those buildings don't even exist yet, but I think we'll see many of them come online in the next patch. My assumption is that we'll have to craft those buildings, but they may also be made available in the store. Players are limited to 3 artifact/relic buffs at a time and the buffs run out and need to be recharged by some in-game method.
So the basic idea is that you place the relics in specific buildings in your EK and those buffs apply to your characters no matter which world they are in. Everyone will have the ability to obtain relics by playing the game. They are meant as a way to tie EKs and Campaigns together, but in a small way that doesn't unbalance things.
These will be small buffs. With full training and gear, I can exceed 40% harvesting crit chance. The 2 or 3% I get from a relic isn't going to mean much. It's just another way for people to play the min/max game. If people want to spend money on that, and then spend more money on the building to place it in, rather than just obtaining them in game, more power to them.