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Fallout 76 Wastelanders Now Live, Marks Debut on Steam
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Fallout 76 Wastelanders Now Live, Marks Debut on Steam
The Wastelanders update is finally here for Fallout 76 and marks the game's debut on Steam.
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Does everyone need the sub in order to play on it or just 1 person to host?
Is it persistent? If I am not on could my friend join the server?
Anything else good/bad to say about it?
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At first if the host quit, the instance would drop. I think they fixed that but I haven't checked. I think your friend would need to be invited or join from the friends list, not sure if they also need a Fallout 1st membership. Its polished for a Bethesda Game. Your character doesn't have the same level of impact they would have in a solo game because it needs to be kept persistent. The questing right now is a bit more in depth than something like Fallout 4.
I mean, sure, if you absolutely hate seeing other people walking around in popular areas - then it might have value.
But if you adjust that mindset to something a little more reasonable, then the amount of times you actually have to interact with others will be something like 20 seconds every 50 hours or so.
I've played the game for a couple of hundred hours now - and I can't remember ever interacting with a player beyond a handful of emote exchanges. I could have done much more, though.
I've never - ever - been attacked by anyone, by the way.
As for the game itself, it's essentially Fallout 4 with cooperative multiplayer in a different setting - and a few minor concessions for that sort of experience.
So, if you liked Fallout 4 - and you're not emotionally invested against seeing an occasional player (it will be more common in the beginner areas) - then you will almost certainly like this.
Of course, you have to accept that it's a multiplayer game in terms of infrastructure and that means always online and so forth, regardless of whether you play on a private or public server.
The modern Fallouts were always buggy, and this is no exception. Wastelanders does seem quite a bit more polished - but they're still using an old architecture and the engine was never designed for multiplayer - which is evident even now.
Personally, I think it's the best Fallout in terms of exploration. Not only is the world design superior to all the others (yes, including Fallout 1 and 2) - it's also 4 times larger than Fallout 4.
So, if you're into exploration - you're facing at least a few hundred hours of that, which I consider more than worth the very low price you can get it for these days.
To each his own, though.
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Had some trouble tracking down info on the private servers but basically:
-> Only host needs the subscription (Fallout 1st).
-> Friends without the Fallout 1st can join the private world (max. 8 players).
-> The world stays active for 15 minutes after the last player (1st/Non-1st) has left the world.
-> The host (1st) needs to rejoin the world to activate it for other players.
--> It's basically passive hosting but you always need to reactivate it if the server stays empty for 15 minutes
About the subscription itself:
-> It's expensive (15€ per month / 120 € per year (10€/mo))
-> Private World is a good feature as it allows you to experience the game without trolls or super geared/leveled players (PvP / Oneshotting event bosses) and it allows you to do gimmicky farming (farm private world -> public world -> private world etc.)
-> Survival Tent is a great feature allowing you to plop down a fully equipped base anywhere without a cost
-> Scrapbox is an excellent feature allowing you to store infinite craft supplies and scrapping items automatically by placing them in the box
-> Atoms are a meh considering atomic shop is more or less cosmetic (there's few utility items like Fridge (-50% spoilage) and a scavenger bot (collects items near your C.A.M.P)
-> Exclusive cosmetics meh unless your into this
Personally I feel the subscription would be good value at 10€ / 5€ but at the current price its quite expensive for what it is, unless you enjoy playing in a private world (alone/friends) and enjoy the extra (albeit slightly immersion breaking) convenience provided by Tent and Scrapbox. I guess you could *kinda* think of it as paying for server rental although you need to activate it manually when it empties
Whether there's massive nerdrage about the subscription or not, it's there and it is legit for some players.
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BTW, I would have given it a solid 6 back at launch, but I am a fan afterall.
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Instead of a video, could you perhaps speak for yourself? I'm not interested in videos by other people - but your personal position, as you're the one I'm talking to.
What decisions by what people do you think constitute pissing on the rug? Are you absolutely certain that by not playing Fallout 76 - you're somehow communicating something to that person or those persons?
Of course, you're free to ignore my question - but I'm just interested in establishing your position.
First it was loot boxes in ESO then playing semantics BS games and carving out one of the yearly ESO DLC (that would otherwise be included with the sub) and calling it a "chapter" and making it so you have to buy it with cash, not the "crowns" that you can buy everything else with.
Then came FO76 that was nothing more than a multiplayer Fallout 4 DLC but hyped as something new just to get in on the GAAS gravy train.
I used to think of them as a studio with integrity when others like EA had very little of it but they've shown themselves to be just as sleazy as the rest.
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You must be used to some pretty cool DLC
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Let's pretend it's true - would that change your mind, though?
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
I've played all the Fallouts (including the terrible console game called BoS or something) - and there's no doubt Fallout 76 has the biggest world with the most diverse content, and actually also some of the best writing - certainly compared to FO3 and FO4.
I don't know if it's exactly 4 times bigger - but it sounds about right, and probably even bigger now.
Beyond that, it has 6 distinct biomes - as a first for any Fallout game.
Let's just say I've never played a DLC or an expansion that even remotely compared to FO76 in terms of sheer content.
To me, that's relevant when I need to take into account statements like:
I do however think that if more people stood on principle instead of catering to their base desire we could change the downward spiral of the game industry.
I find it interesting to understand what it takes for other people to make serious moralistic judgment calls like that.
It tells me a lot about their personality and the degree to which they should be considered valuable as contributors.
If me and 3 friends are playing in my game doing quests, and then they leave to go play on their onw, will they keep their progression? If I join them and they are further ahead on quests or they join me while they are further ahead what happens?
Of course your friends will keep their progress - but you have to stay together in terms of quest stages to progress together, like in all other MMOs.
You're the one doing most of the judging of others here as far as I can see.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
As for your displeasure with microtransactions, that's cool - but it doesn't correlate with a rational point of view as far as I'm concerned.
Microtransactions can be anything - and they can be handled in a million different ways.
Some are good, some are bad. Hating them on principle is irrational, but I understand.
Confusing that hatred with some kind of justification to believe oneself capable of evaluating the motivation of a developer that's trying to do something different is a whole new level of irrationality, but that's ok.
Apparently, you think running an online infrastructure for thousands or potentially millions of players is the same as releasing a singleplayer game that requires no infrastructure of any kind.
Personally, I look at what I get out of a game and then I contrast it with the investment I made. That's how I determine if I think it's been worth the price.
Money isn't the biggest thing for me, but I have to take it into consideration, since I don't have an infinite amount.
So far, I've gotten 200+ hours of entertainment out of Fallout 76. I have spent 0 dollars on microtransactions and I've been tempted 0 times to spend money on it - because everything is either cosmetic or super trivial convenience that's easy to get in-game.
But that's based on actual experience with the actual game.
I think I paid around 30 dollars for the game.
So, that's around 6.5 hours of entertainment pr. dollar.
What you're saying is that I'm catering to "my base" by paying 1 dollar pr. 6.5 hours of entertainment - which doesn't quite compute for me.
As for your posted video, I have no use for it. I want to know your opinion - not other opinions.
If you're unable to articulate it for yourself, it only enforces the weakness of it.
Anyway, I think I know what I need to know about you and how you judge other people.
While there are still bugs I enjoy the game. Much more now with Wastelanders.
As for costs....
~40€ for the game at release
0 € for Microtransactions
0 € for FalloutFirst because I dont need my own server
~3000 Atoms just by playing
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