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Star Citizen Alpha 3.10 Will Help Make Landing Easier

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited June 2020 in News & Features Discussion

imageStar Citizen Alpha 3.10 Will Help Make Landing Easier

Star Citizen has recently detailed a new feature being introduced in patch Alpha 3.10 that will help make landing in spaceports a lot easier for players.

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  • NanbinoNanbino Member UncommonPosts: 168
    Gotta suck starting a game based on older gamer exceptions, then dumb it down with patches to compete with the pop soup of insta rewards, skilless pvp and pve.

    I'm no diviser though, I'll unite. Here:

    Make a part in game that allows players to get install on ship for easier landing, at a price of longer wait time as ship securly auto corrects itself or what have you.

    Give the guys putting in time to learn their ship the advantage of no wait time, or as long as it takes them. That way as groups land to rush for loot, the guys looking for skill less play have expected land times.

    This isn't a disadvantage. The guys confident in own skill could see themselves tipping over if too cocky. It balanced out somewhere.

    Or do whatever, not like I'm playing the scamware anytime soon xD
    ErillionIsilithTehroth
  • JoeBloberJoeBlober Member RarePosts: 587

    Nanbino said:

    Gotta suck starting a game based on older gamer exceptions, then dumb it down with patches to compete with the pop soup of insta rewards, skilless pvp and pve.



    I'm no diviser though, I'll unite. Here:



    Make a part in game that allows players to get install on ship for easier landing, at a price of longer wait time as ship securly auto corrects itself or what have you.



    Give the guys putting in time to learn their ship the advantage of no wait time, or as long as it takes them. That way as groups land to rush for loot, the guys looking for skill less play have expected land times.



    This isn't a disadvantage. The guys confident in own skill could see themselves tipping over if too cocky. It balanced out somewhere.



    Or do whatever, not like I'm playing the scamware anytime soon xD



    What a salad of words... Adding path for landing is a plus and used only to land on specific area. Nothing stop anyone to land where they want as long a hangar or landing pad is not required. In fact player can also park outside of spaceport without requiring any authorization solo or in group.
    Your last drop "scamware" say it all: Any words as long you insert some low lever trolling :)
    rpmcmurphyChaserz
  • GrintchGrintch Member UncommonPosts: 132
    You would think there would be technology for auto-docking on ships this advanced.
    ArglebargleTacticalZombeh
  • rpmcmurphyrpmcmurphy Member EpicPosts: 3,502

    Grintch said:

    You would think there would be technology for auto-docking on ships this advanced.



    Funnily enough this was the original idea. Have the game assume control of the ship and make it use a "space elevator" to the landing area. Then they scrapped that plan for open worlds and now they are halfway back to the original idea :)
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited June 2020
    Landing on cities especially the hangars can be painful and has been one of my yelling at the screen moments after exploding trying xD, so having a more linear guidance so you don't have to run into no-fly zones trying to gain control too close to buildings is gg
    JoeBloberChaserz
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050

    rpmcmurphy said:



    Grintch said:


    You would think there would be technology for auto-docking on ships this advanced.






    Funnily enough this was the original idea. Have the game assume control of the ship and make it use a "space elevator" to the landing area. Then they scrapped that plan for open worlds and now they are halfway back to the original idea :)




    Chris Roberts and his endless feature creep. Scaling back is the right thing to do, especially if they aren't competent enough to get this working efficiently.
    ErillionCaffynatedIsilithTehrothChaserz
  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,688
    Finally!  It's now easier to land a ship in Star Citizen!
    Erillion
  • jahlonjahlon Member UncommonPosts: 388
    Where Star Citizen is going to fail is in the same place that Elite Dangerous failed, they've made the game less than desirable for the laid-back casual.

    Now, I know some of you will be like "Good. Fuck Casuals" the problem with that mentality is that casuals make up the backbone of your game, and the backbone provides the financial success of a game.

    Now, I don't mind the complexity, that's actually what I'm interested in but if you want to be able to draw people in, you need to have an "easy button" if you will. You need to have it so that people can jump in their ride, take off, and be parked out in space without having to go through the motions.

    You need to have it so people can get to a parking lane, and just get docked.

    Without that, I feel Star Citizen will just end up with the backers, and then they will never grow past that boundary.
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  • boris20boris20 Member RarePosts: 404
    jahlon said:
    Where Star Citizen is going to fail is in the same place that Elite Dangerous failed, they've made the game less than desirable for the laid-back casual.

    Now, I know some of you will be like "Good. Fuck Casuals" the problem with that mentality is that casuals make up the backbone of your game, and the backbone provides the financial success of a game.

    Now, I don't mind the complexity, that's actually what I'm interested in but if you want to be able to draw people in, you need to have an "easy button" if you will. You need to have it so that people can jump in their ride, take off, and be parked out in space without having to go through the motions.

    You need to have it so people can get to a parking lane, and just get docked.

    Without that, I feel Star Citizen will just end up with the backers, and then they will never grow past that boundary.
    I can see this being valid. I like the concept of Elite but never bought in because I simply feel its not very casual friendly. Ive watched the videos of the time is takes to navigate around, land, take off and just felt like it would be a chore. 
  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 573
    Even the Dragon capsule has auto docking I believe and that's real life.
    Calkrow
  • Jaguaratron1Jaguaratron1 Member UncommonPosts: 299

    jahlon said:

    Where Star Citizen is going to fail is in the same place that Elite Dangerous failed, they've made the game less than desirable for the laid-back casual.



    Now, I know some of you will be like "Good. Fuck Casuals" the problem with that mentality is that casuals make up the backbone of your game, and the backbone provides the financial success of a game.



    Now, I don't mind the complexity, that's actually what I'm interested in but if you want to be able to draw people in, you need to have an "easy button" if you will. You need to have it so that people can jump in their ride, take off, and be parked out in space without having to go through the motions.



    You need to have it so people can get to a parking lane, and just get docked.



    Without that, I feel Star Citizen will just end up with the backers, and then they will never grow past that boundary.



    Sorry bud, but you are thinking of a normal game, its cycle and its issues, in Star Citizens case casuals are not the backbone of it, whales and dreamers are, its sucked in millions based on nothing but peoples hopes and is stuck in an endless cycle of feature creep and was supposed to be released years ago.

    So long as people keep throwing money at them they will continue to sit back and chill making a fortune while stringing people along.
    McSleaz
  • AkaradrinAkaradrin Member UncommonPosts: 26
    edited June 2020

    jahlon said:

    Where Star Citizen is going to fail is in the same place that Elite Dangerous failed, they've made the game less than desirable for the laid-back casual.



    Now, I know some of you will be like "Good. Fuck Casuals" the problem with that mentality is that casuals make up the backbone of your game, and the backbone provides the financial success of a game.



    Now, I don't mind the complexity, that's actually what I'm interested in but if you want to be able to draw people in, you need to have an "easy button" if you will. You need to have it so that people can jump in their ride, take off, and be parked out in space without having to go through the motions.



    You need to have it so people can get to a parking lane, and just get docked.



    Without that, I feel Star Citizen will just end up with the backers, and then they will never grow past that boundary.



    Press N to deploy landing gear.
    Push N to activate auto-landing.

    Right now, it works this way, so there is an "easy button".

    Of course, you can land manually.

    Elite Dangerous has auto-landing from the first day, and right now it also has auto-launching and auto-cruise. And all the small ships start with those modules installed by default.

    PS: Elite never failed and Star Citizen is far from failing.
    JoeBloberBabuinixChaserzErillion
  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,465
    rpmcmurphy said:

    Grintch said:

    You would think there would be technology for auto-docking on ships this advanced.



    Funnily enough this was the original idea. Have the game assume control of the ship and make it use a "space elevator" to the landing area. Then they scrapped that plan for open worlds and now they are halfway back to the original idea :)
    Can we say re-re-re-factor?

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,465
    Akaradrin said:

    jahlon said:

    Where Star Citizen is going to fail is in the same place that Elite Dangerous failed, they've made the game less than desirable for the laid-back casual.



    Now, I know some of you will be like "Good. Fuck Casuals" the problem with that mentality is that casuals make up the backbone of your game, and the backbone provides the financial success of a game.



    Now, I don't mind the complexity, that's actually what I'm interested in but if you want to be able to draw people in, you need to have an "easy button" if you will. You need to have it so that people can jump in their ride, take off, and be parked out in space without having to go through the motions.



    You need to have it so people can get to a parking lane, and just get docked.



    Without that, I feel Star Citizen will just end up with the backers, and then they will never grow past that boundary.



    Press N to deploy landing gear.
    Push N to activate auto-landing.

    Right now, it works this way, so there is an "easy button".

    Of course, you can land manually.

    Elite Dangerous has auto-landing from the first day, and right now it also has auto-launching and auto-cruise. And all the small ships start with those modules installed by default.

    PS: Elite never failed and Star Citizen is far from failing.
    Dreams can be all things to all people.  A released game has to deal with its real issues. 

    But dreams are paying real well right now, so no need to hurry.
    Kyleran

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • JoeBloberJoeBlober Member RarePosts: 587

    Arglebargle said:


    Akaradrin said:



    jahlon said:


    Where Star Citizen is going to fail is in the same place that Elite Dangerous failed, they've made the game less than desirable for the laid-back casual.





    Now, I know some of you will be like "Good. Fuck Casuals" the problem with that mentality is that casuals make up the backbone of your game, and the backbone provides the financial success of a game.





    Now, I don't mind the complexity, that's actually what I'm interested in but if you want to be able to draw people in, you need to have an "easy button" if you will. You need to have it so that people can jump in their ride, take off, and be parked out in space without having to go through the motions.





    You need to have it so people can get to a parking lane, and just get docked.





    Without that, I feel Star Citizen will just end up with the backers, and then they will never grow past that boundary.






    Press N to deploy landing gear.

    Push N to activate auto-landing.



    Right now, it works this way, so there is an "easy button".



    Of course, you can land manually.



    Elite Dangerous has auto-landing from the first day, and right now it also has auto-launching and auto-cruise. And all the small ships start with those modules installed by default.



    PS: Elite never failed and Star Citizen is far from failing.


    Dreams can be all things to all people.  A released game has to deal with its real issues. 

    But dreams are paying real well right now, so no need to hurry.



    Bethesda with Fallout 76 (which is a copy/paste of Fallout 4) did delviered crap, EA with Anthem have to rework it from grtound, both companies with billions $ revenues per year.
    CIG ha&ve "only" 300M over a +7 years period and as already deliver more interesting and unique feature in Alpha than publishers with theirs triple-A.
    Dream take time and costs money (+500 devs). Surprisingly enough, I Stopped playing ED a couple years ago but still come to SC which is missing gameplay to be implemented over the upcoming year.
    Backers got the dream and it is playable right now. Don't look further why more people are joining at every quarter: publishers don't care about gamer community at large.
    KyleranmmolouIselin
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Willfull ignorance in the ivory tower continues to thrive, just another day in the SC story.


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  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    A space sim with manual landing? Manual flight? Very unrealistic. 
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    A space sim with manual landing? Manual flight? Very unrealistic. 
    To be fair, it likely is more realistic to assume that in the future your role starts and ends with choosing destination. Then you might as well go play with the space toilet for the rest of the journey.
    sschrupp
     
  • jazz.bejazz.be Member UncommonPosts: 962
    Can't say I like how this arcade style landing system looks like. Hopefully they'll change their mind at some point in further development. I'd rather have the choice of a fully automated landing which would take more time, and a fully manual landing which would take less time.
  • ChaserzChaserz Member RarePosts: 335
    Love this game. Very happy to be a charter supporter and it just keeps getting better and more refined as it goes along. Can't wait for 4.0!
    ErillionKyleran
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,317
    Xodic said:
    My buddy's Tesla parks itself... in 2020

    And this is how it looks like in space when the automatic docking fails

    Damage to the Mir space stations Spektr module



    Have fun

  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    Vrika said:
    ChildoftheShadows said:
    A space sim with manual landing? Manual flight? Very unrealistic. 
    To be fair, it likely is more realistic to assume that in the future your role starts and ends with choosing destination. Then you might as well go play with the space toilet for the rest of the journey.
    Eve online handles it well, so nice try?
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004

    Xodic said:

    My buddy's Tesla parks itself... in 2020




    Auto-docking would be nice. Wasn't the Dragon totally automated with a self landing return stage?

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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,465
    edited June 2020
    Erillion said:
    Xodic said:
    My buddy's Tesla parks itself... in 2020

    And this is how it looks like in space when the automatic docking fails

    Damage to the Mir space stations Spektr module



    Have fun

    That's what it looks like when manual docking fails as well.  ;)

    Really, any place with expensive infrastructure is going to have automated policies (or tugs, or designated ship landing pilots, landing strips way in the boonies, etc).  Certainly after the first cowboy landing mistakes take out four square blocks of the downtown or space station.  

    Of course if you are landing out in the wild, you better know how to do it yourself.  Even more so if it's some form of hot LZ.   

    So the combo of the two styles is best.

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

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