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It is easy to say we need a fair system but how are you creating it?
...it is usualy those rallying up for "fairness" - free market, being the ones that oppose and criple it the most.
People don't want fairness, they just want what others have regardless whether they deserve it.
Communism is nothing new though...just it doesn't work...
people wanting more fair distribution should not be equated to communism
it's funny how whenever anyone asks to make the system more fair - it's immediately attacked as some extreme "communist" view
Hey - can we get minimum wage to cover basic human needs - like water/food/shelter and healthcare?
reply - NO YOU COMMUNIST - DIE!
Its not nearly as simple as you describe. Here is what happens: Goods today cost X to buy. Employees make Y. When you add to Y... that makes X go up. So the goods will cost more. That means that the people making a decent wage now... will be less able to buy things. This means They also will push for raises. This further increases the cost of X. This means that the people who recently got their "living wage" will find that it is no longer a "living wage".
Artificial influences are ineffectual. It just drives companies to use H-1B visas to import cheap skilled labor and to outsource non-skilled labor.
You are looking to address symptoms and not causes. The cause of the low wage rate is that there are lots of people willing to work for that wage. We make it worse by importing more labor. This is driven by both political parties who look at it from different sides but ultimately agree that they all want more unskilled workers (cheap). That has to stop.
But I hate to break it to you... further down the road pretty much all unskilled labor is going away. I am personally running multiple robotics projects for my company. These robots are able to replace 40% of our workforce and have an ROI of 2 years. Our Customer Service team has invested heavily in ChatBots and massive amounts of calls are now handled by that.
You see Amazon gobbling up people now? That's short term. They have massive investments in robotics and automation that eventually will result in minimal need for these same employees they are hiring.
I don't know what the long term solution is. Universal Income is a suicide pact and within a generation we become fully dependent on the government/corporation. Do we pass laws that limit robots? Maybe... but then we better go full protectionist because other countries will not be limiting themselves.
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It is easy to say we need a fair system but how are you creating it?
...it is usualy those rallying up for "fairness" - free market, being the ones that oppose and criple it the most.
People don't want fairness, they just want what others have regardless whether they deserve it.
Communism is nothing new though...just it doesn't work...
people wanting more fair distribution should not be equated to communism
it's funny how whenever anyone asks to make the system more fair - it's immediately attacked as some extreme "communist" view
Hey - can we get minimum wage to cover basic human needs - like water/food/shelter and healthcare?
reply - NO YOU COMMUNIST - DIE!
Its not nearly as simple as you describe. Here is what happens: Goods today cost X to buy. Employees make Y. When you add to Y... that makes X go up. So the goods will cost more. That means that the people making a decent wage now... will be less able to buy things. This means They also will push for raises. This further increases the cost of X. This means that the people who recently got their "living wage" will find that it is no longer a "living wage".
Artificial influences are ineffectual. It just drives companies to use H-1B visas to import cheap skilled labor and to outsource non-skilled labor.
You are looking to address symptoms and not causes. The cause of the low wage rate is that there are lots of people willing to work for that wage. We make it worse by importing more labor. This is driven by both political parties who look at it from different sides but ultimately agree that they all want more unskilled workers (cheap). That has to stop.
But I hate to break it to you... further down the road pretty much all unskilled labor is going away. I am personally running multiple robotics projects for my company. These robots are able to replace 40% of our workforce and have an ROI of 2 years. Our Customer Service team has invested heavily in ChatBots and massive amounts of calls are now handled by that.
You see Amazon gobbling up people now? That's short term. They have massive investments in robotics and automation that eventually will result in minimal need for these same employees they are hiring.
I don't know what the long term solution is. Universal Income is a suicide pact and within a generation we become fully dependent on the government/corporation. Do we pass laws that limit robots? Maybe... but then we better go full protectionist because other countries will not be limiting themselves.
Thank you for posting this. The lack of understanding of basic economics I’ve seen throughout this thread have been appalling and disheartening.
This is every industry ever. Not sure why crunch and low wages only get brought up when it's video game developers.
Well because gaming would not be considered a good investment,you have no idea how your next product will fair in the marketplace.Their successful model is the same everywhere in gaming now,sell games that retain ongoing revenue instead of a one off sale.
Geesh Epic and Rockstar are killing it with just one game,it's GTA$$$ and Fortnite's seasons and costumes.As for Blizzard,they made an early killing with hearthstone selling cards.When you think about 10 million Wow players and $15 subs that is $150 million a MONTH..lol.They could GIVE AWAY expansions for free and still make off like bandits.So then ask yourself if Blizzard could afford to put more back into the game for example servers for housing?
It really is amazing that Blizzard can half ass their games and still come off like bandit's.Part of their ability to remain popular is that the individuals like the streamers,YouTubers rely on the popularity of Blizzard to make themselves popular so it is like a snowball effect.These people make Blizzard popular and in return Blizzard makes them popular.
As long as Blizzard's books keep showing profits "no matter legal or not"the stock rises,the shareholders are happy,Kotick gets more money and rewards.
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I have a couple friends in the industry and told me Blizzard tries to offer lower salaries to some, and justify it by saying you get to work for Blizzard.
Blizzard is run by share holders, and at the end of the day they only care about stock value, everything else comes secondary.
"It seems that more than 50% of the company’s employees are unhappy in their current compensation. An anonymous spreadsheet was created and circulated around Blizzard. Bloomberg reports that most raises are actually below 10%. "
1. No shit... I'm sure that at least 50% of employees in most companies wish they made more money.
2. Outside of promotions I have never received any annual raise that was close to 10%. Last 2 years my company gave blanket 3% and 2% raises.
Sure, than they would say "Ok , we will keep working...", but guess what? They will no longer hold true to the company vision and they will be "whatever".
So if a company is having (much) higher revenues every year, is SAFER to also increase workers wages, if you want them to keep working like before and keep the company revenues growing. 2/3 % will not help. Not at all.
And stop making this comparation with other companies OUT of this industry. Every industry is different.
Also I have no problem if an CEO is making this much money, IF, the workers are also happy with the company and with their wages. When the workers starts to "lose hope", because of the salary, the said company will, sooner rather then later, collapse. Not totally, but .. to a point where it will be very hard to "come back".
And I kinda see this ...trend @ Blizzard!
So you would support a pay for performance model? When the company makes a lot of money the folks get large raises and when the company loses a lot of money they get salary reductions? Or in your mind does it only work one way?
It would be nice for a company to share a great year by handing out bonuses. That's more sustainable than adjusting base pay.
Yes, I do support a "pay for performance" model. In this way you are encouraging your workers to "do their best". But a ..pay for performance on top of your usual salary.
However, for this to work, requires a very, very strong leadership and vision from whoever is in charge with X team to create Y game. If things go bad, well .. they will still have the base salary.
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
"It seems that more than 50% of the company’s employees are unhappy in their current compensation. An anonymous spreadsheet was created and circulated around Blizzard. Bloomberg reports that most raises are actually below 10%. "
1. No shit... I'm sure that at least 50% of employees in most companies wish they made more money.
2. Outside of promotions I have never received any annual raise that was close to 10%. Last 2 years my company gave blanket 3% and 2% raises.
Sure, than they would say "Ok , we will keep working...", but guess what? They will no longer hold true to the company vision and they will be "whatever".
So if a company is having (much) higher revenues every year, is SAFER to also increase workers wages, if you want them to keep working like before and keep the company revenues growing. 2/3 % will not help. Not at all.
And stop making this comparation with other companies OUT of this industry. Every industry is different.
Also I have no problem if an CEO is making this much money, IF, the workers are also happy with the company and with their wages. When the workers starts to "lose hope", because of the salary, the said company will, sooner rather then later, collapse. Not totally, but .. to a point where it will be very hard to "come back".
And I kinda see this ...trend @ Blizzard!
So you would support a pay for performance model? When the company makes a lot of money the folks get large raises and when the company loses a lot of money they get salary reductions? Or in your mind does it only work one way?
It would be nice for a company to share a great year by handing out bonuses. That's more sustainable than adjusting base pay.
Yes, I do support a "pay for performance" model. In this way you are encouraging your workers to "do their best". But a ..pay for performance on top of your usual salary.
However, for this to work, requires a very, very strong leadership and vision from whoever is in charge with X team to create Y game. If things go bad, well .. they will still have the base salary.
No you don’t actually support a true performance model then. You only want the good and not the bad. You want the bonus in the good times but not give anything up when they lose money.
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First I want to say that if Blizzard is having problems making money it's their own fault for the way they market their products. Once in a while they'll make some cool deal that I buy in a heartbeat like a Hearthstone hero for $9.99-$14.99 or gold classic pack bundles but those specially created deals are far and few. Instead of "microtransaction" deals they come out with $80 expansion pack bundles which is the only way you can get some of your favorite heroes like the Kel'Thuzad bundle and they did that before for Deathwing as well. Along with doing stuff like that they are still charging 2010 dumb fking prices for stuff like mounts in WoW for $25. Don't even get me started for how overpriced Heroes of the Storm store is considering that game is half way in the grave. They are stuck in the past as far as the way they handle their cash shop stuff and unless they get some guidance from mobile games and put their ego away it'll only get worse for them.
Second - The amount of rich people hating in this thread is unbelievable. If you want to become rich in the USA go right ahead and do it cause their are no chains holding you down and if you think their is then maybe that goal is beyond your capability and you should try settling for just "good enough". Google any country in the history of the world that killed off their rich and those places are either now communist dictatorships and/or complete shitholes. Having different income gaps in free market society when it's working properly without corruption is how you determine your place in the world. If common people have no higher goal to work towards then it becomes communism and even communism has a 1% so don't be fooled thinking if you kill the 1% they won't exist cause the 1% will always exist in some form. What matters is how much freedom you have to do what you want when you want to improve your life. Go get a job at Burger King and rise the ranks to manager then regional manager etc...oh but wait...the "eat the rich" people burned that location down...nevermind...
If you ever doubt how "free" the USA is just look at all those scam kickstarter projects that will never be investigated and none of those people will ever go to prison. Ever wonder why 90% of those Kickstarter MMO projects are from the USA? Cause if they were in other countries they would already be investigated for fraud. So if you want to start a kickstarter mmo project even if you're just a regular gamer like the Ashes of Creation guy and scam people out of millions go right ahead and make your dreams come true.
If their CEO was any kind of real leader he'd take a reduction in salary and spread that around to the people who work for the company so that they don't have to struggle anymore. He's not a real leader though, which explains plenty about their products to me.
CEOs are not leaders - but are ivy league twats that hold their position because they are in the same inner circle of other ivy league twats.
Yes there are exception to this - usually CEOs that started their own companies and have built them up themselves - those guys have actual substance.
But vast majority of CEOs are there because of their rich families and rich friends and being able to graduate from rich schools.
I am surprised your bigotry against rich people hasn't gotten you a forum time out yet. . .
. . .oh wait it is 2020, hating the rich is high fashion now.
Wanting a fair distribution of wealth is not hating the wealthy. There are wealthy that are being very fair with their wealth. Look at Bill Gates and how he has spent billions to better the world, from toilet that can be used in 3rd world countries, fair pay for their staff, W@H options for all staff, working to help fix global warming by making pants that are reversing that effect. Making money is not the problem, its what they do with it. Funny thing is, Bill Gates still gets to live a really great life along with all he has done thats right.
Mr Bill Gates made his money at Microsoft. Microsoft certainly pays their skilled USA positions very well, but according to Glassdoor you can also get $12/HR for unskilled work like Customer Service Reps. Hard to make ends meet as a family with that. But you know whats even better?
They pay Software Developers in India the equivalent of $18,000 a year. The same job that pays $118,000 in the USA. You still think Microsoft is great and Gates is doing all he can for those employees in the USA?
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The saddest thing about all of this is that earlier this year, Blizzard said that they just had their record highest earning year (right before or after they let go of 800 people, forgot which order).....yet they can't pay people proper salaries.....during a pandemic.....If Brack could stop fapping off behind his desk about the thought of how much Chinese money Diablo Immortal will bring in and using his 100$ bills as tissue to pay his employees instead, I'm sure this article would've never came up.
When you have employees making $30,000 and the CEO is making 40million the CEO is making
40,000,000/30,000 = 1333
A single person is making 1333 times more per yer - you could hire over a thousand people for 30K and the CEO would still make 10mil dollars
That is an obvious problem
What if one employee is the driving force behind the generation of 1333 times more revenue?
What if there are 100,000 people who are viable candidates for one job but only a couple dozen viable candidates for the other?
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Yeah, it is so easy to find a new job, and still pay the bills when you are already living pay check to pay check.
I think it's such a refreshing take to see the guy who licks Bobby Kotick's boots get a break for long enough to regurgitate such truth bombs onto us all, Thank you.
If everyone quit when they disliked something we wouldn't have any of the medical, scientific, and technological break through's we get to enjoy today.
What needs to happen is a serious over haul of what minimum wage means at the federal level, and it needs to have clear language that takes inflation, and modern basic needs of the average American into account, and guarantees that every American who is an able bodied member of the American work force, to shelter, food, clean water, health care, and some fun money.
Corporate America has shown us time and again that they only care about their top dogs, and that they cannot be trusted to make sure the needs of their employees are met. These monsters of society need to be neutered, and pay their fair damn share for once. I am sick of the have nots getting screwed over time and again.
A Federal minimum wage is ridiculous. It should be left to the States and localities. The cost of living varies wildly. A dollar in Arkansas is the equivalent of $1.58 in the average state while that same dollar is only worth $0.61 in Hawaii. The disparity is far worse if you look at cities.
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"It seems that more than 50% of the company’s employees are unhappy in their current compensation. An anonymous spreadsheet was created and circulated around Blizzard. Bloomberg reports that most raises are actually below 10%. "
1. No shit... I'm sure that at least 50% of employees in most companies wish they made more money.
2. Outside of promotions I have never received any annual raise that was close to 10%. Last 2 years my company gave blanket 3% and 2% raises.
I've asked CEOs about their pay - and at least the ones that I've talked to have openly said that the pay has gotten increasingly higher as that's how the market for CEOs is - but yes they said the salaries have gotten too high
When you have employees making $30,000 and the CEO is making 40million the CEO is making
40,000,000/30,000 = 1333
A single person is making 1333 times more per yer - you could hire over a thousand people for 30K and the CEO would still make 10mil dollars
That is an obvious problem
The article says that the skilled employees like Producers and Programmers were making $100k. The positions like game testers were making minimum wage. Now we can have a rational discussion about what minimum wage should be, but in general, a job as a game tester would not be a career but a starter job not meant to support a family.
I can't re-read the Bloomberg article as I am out of free articles but that's what I recall from reading it.
But as I said above... if they are complaining about most raises being below 10% then they have a disconnect from reality.
Its the imbalance is the take away not the 10% raise. Its not the minimum wage. All these things are a problem but we need to look past that stuff and really look at the bigger picture. For example, a few years ago there was a report on what it would cost globally to make sure every person on the planet to have access to clean drinking water. The cost: 2 billion. Could you get the people who hold most of the worlds wealth that's top 0.74% to give that? Would it even effect them? Nope it would not affect them and nope you can't get them to do that.
Really is minimum wage really a fair state of things? Is it fair that people who has pre-existing conditions cant afford medical insurance? Is it fair that drug companies mark up life saving drugs by 5000%? Is it fair thats Blizzard having second quarter revenue growth of 38% or $1.93 billion not look at giving everyone who helped them get thats say 5% of that as a bonus? Or even 1%?
If you libertarian Minimum wage is a horrible idea. There are lots of reasons why health care costs what it does. As for drugs depends. I think the generic laws need to be changed to promote competition but I also think a company that spends 2 Billion to make a drug deserves to make profit from it so they have incentive to make new drugs.
Bonuses and salaries are much different things. But again if you do not like it organize, leave, or accept your fate. I am completely against governments stepping in.
because humans by nature are not herd animals. We are self interested animals that like to live in a group. There is a big difference. You are not going to be able to change that.
That is the fundamental problem with for profit business being involved in medicine. It is a lose lose situation for the people who need the medicine. Medical research needs to be done with government money. Our taxes should be used for this, because 1 billion dollars is chump change to the US Government, we spend trillions of dollars on our military every year, and there is no reason that a portion of that money can't be used for medical research. It is a disservice to every American to allow tyrannical corporations control over whether someone lives or dies based on the cost of a medication that is available.
If you really believed that competition is good in the medical field, then you should also believe that patents should be illegal. A patent is the most anti consumer practice ever invented.
Your comparison to humans not being herd animals is willfully deceitful at worst, or ignorant at best.
Human's have lived in "Herds" or as people call them "Tribes" for millions of years. Humans have lived for as long, and been as successful as we have been due to herd mentality and tribalism.
Even as hunters and gatherers we would give food to others that didn't have a successful hunt, knowing that they would give back if you had a bad hunt.
People who share a mentality like yours used to be the outliers, but have slowly over thousands of years twisted, and bastardized human survival into a hunter and prey relationship.
Government funded medicine does not drive invention. Never has, never will. Do I hate the prices of some drugs? Absolutely. I think the order recently signed is a good one. If a company sells a drug to another country for a lower price, they have to match it here.
Do I want government driving medicine? Fuck no. Governments are more corrupt than companies because nobody checks them. At least companies actually want to invent stuff to make money. Governments just want to maintain power.
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If their CEO was any kind of real leader he'd take a reduction in salary and spread that around to the people who work for the company so that they don't have to struggle anymore. He's not a real leader though, which explains plenty about their products to me.
CEOs are not leaders - but are ivy league twats that hold their position because they are in the same inner circle of other ivy league twats.
Yes there are exception to this - usually CEOs that started their own companies and have built them up themselves - those guys have actual substance.
But vast majority of CEOs are there because of their rich families and rich friends and being able to graduate from rich schools.
I am surprised your bigotry against rich people hasn't gotten you a forum time out yet. . .
. . .oh wait it is 2020, hating the rich is high fashion now.
Wanting a fair distribution of wealth is not hating the wealthy. There are wealthy that are being very fair with their wealth. Look at Bill Gates and how he has spent billions to better the world, from toilet that can be used in 3rd world countries, fair pay for their staff, W@H options for all staff, working to help fix global warming by making pants that are reversing that effect. Making money is not the problem, its what they do with it. Funny thing is, Bill Gates still gets to live a really great life along with all he has done thats right.
Mr Bill Gates made his money at Microsoft. Microsoft certainly pays their skilled USA positions very well, but according to Glassdoor you can also get $12/HR for unskilled work like Customer Service Reps. Hard to make ends meet as a family with that. But you know whats even better?
They pay Software Developers in India the equivalent of $18,000 a year. The same job that pays $118,000 in the USA. You still think Microsoft is great and Gates is doing all he can for those employees in the USA?
Got any quotes to support your estimates?
About three years back I used to do the budgets for my group and Indian developers were rated for $42.00 / hr, I'm sure it's higher now.
The H1s here in the states actually make about the same pay as anyone else and if you decide to help them get a green card it costs about $20K a person.
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My friend and I discussed this the other day. It devolved down to them saying "They're exploiting these people's passion, there should be consequences" and I saying "They agreed to work there for that amount. If they won't give you a raise, then look for a job elsewhere."
I know it's easier said than done to "Go get another job", but that advice is sound in nearly every other industry and similar scenario. I reckon some folk are just trying to crap on the company again, jumping on that ol' bandwagon.
What's happening isn't great. If even half of what is being said is true, it's horrible. However, no one is forcing them to stay there.
"It seems that more than 50% of the company’s employees are unhappy in their current compensation. An anonymous spreadsheet was created and circulated around Blizzard. Bloomberg reports that most raises are actually below 10%. "
1. No shit... I'm sure that at least 50% of employees in most companies wish they made more money.
2. Outside of promotions I have never received any annual raise that was close to 10%. Last 2 years my company gave blanket 3% and 2% raises.
Sure, than they would say "Ok , we will keep working...", but guess what? They will no longer hold true to the company vision and they will be "whatever".
So if a company is having (much) higher revenues every year, is SAFER to also increase workers wages, if you want them to keep working like before and keep the company revenues growing. 2/3 % will not help. Not at all.
And stop making this comparation with other companies OUT of this industry. Every industry is different.
Also I have no problem if an CEO is making this much money, IF, the workers are also happy with the company and with their wages. When the workers starts to "lose hope", because of the salary, the said company will, sooner rather then later, collapse. Not totally, but .. to a point where it will be very hard to "come back".
And I kinda see this ...trend @ Blizzard!
So you would support a pay for performance model? When the company makes a lot of money the folks get large raises and when the company loses a lot of money they get salary reductions? Or in your mind does it only work one way?
It would be nice for a company to share a great year by handing out bonuses. That's more sustainable than adjusting base pay.
Yes, I do support a "pay for performance" model. In this way you are encouraging your workers to "do their best". But a ..pay for performance on top of your usual salary.
However, for this to work, requires a very, very strong leadership and vision from whoever is in charge with X team to create Y game. If things go bad, well .. they will still have the base salary.
No you don’t actually support a true performance model then. You only want the good and not the bad. You want the bonus in the good times but not give anything up when they lose money.
How can you give more when you lose money?! "..not give anything", I already said that they should receive the base salary in case of .. "losing money".
And of course I wanna encourage good over bad. The fuck? They are a business company on top of everything. If financial speaking, they are doing bad, then the whole company collapse.
You can't act like everything is OK when you lose money. And I would rather keep the employers and pay them less, when things go bad, than to fire them.
It seems you like a.."communism" approach here, where everyone is..equal. Or am I wrong?
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
My friend and I discussed this the other day. It devolved down to them saying "They're exploiting these people's passion, there should be consequences" and I saying "They agreed to work there for that amount. If they won't give you a raise, then look for a job elsewhere."
I know it's easier said than done to "Go get another job", but that advice is sound in nearly every other industry and similar scenario. I reckon some folk are just trying to crap on the company again, jumping on that ol' bandwagon.
What's happening isn't great. If even half of what is being said is true, it's horrible. However, no one is forcing them to stay there.
Exactly!
I always says that when I see a waitress or waiter, coming to me with a ..bad mood saying ".....................what ..can I get...you". I get it, is a hard job, and maybe low salary, but hey, you choose this job. I'm here to eat and have some fun with my friends, and the last thing I want, is you ruining my time here. Act normally or gtfo!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
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You see the issue is he/she does not understand what communism is, probably watches too much Faux news.
Artificial influences are ineffectual. It just drives companies to use H-1B visas to import cheap skilled labor and to outsource non-skilled labor.
You are looking to address symptoms and not causes. The cause of the low wage rate is that there are lots of people willing to work for that wage. We make it worse by importing more labor. This is driven by both political parties who look at it from different sides but ultimately agree that they all want more unskilled workers (cheap). That has to stop.
But I hate to break it to you... further down the road pretty much all unskilled labor is going away. I am personally running multiple robotics projects for my company. These robots are able to replace 40% of our workforce and have an ROI of 2 years. Our Customer Service team has invested heavily in ChatBots and massive amounts of calls are now handled by that.
You see Amazon gobbling up people now? That's short term. They have massive investments in robotics and automation that eventually will result in minimal need for these same employees they are hiring.
I don't know what the long term solution is. Universal Income is a suicide pact and within a generation we become fully dependent on the government/corporation. Do we pass laws that limit robots? Maybe... but then we better go full protectionist because other countries will not be limiting themselves.
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Well because gaming would not be considered a good investment,you have no idea how your next product will fair in the marketplace.Their successful model is the same everywhere in gaming now,sell games that retain ongoing revenue instead of a one off sale.
Geesh Epic and Rockstar are killing it with just one game,it's GTA$$$ and Fortnite's seasons and costumes.As for Blizzard,they made an early killing with hearthstone selling cards.When you think about 10 million Wow players and $15 subs that is $150 million a MONTH..lol.They could GIVE AWAY expansions for free and still make off like bandits.So then ask yourself if Blizzard could afford to put more back into the game for example servers for housing?
It really is amazing that Blizzard can half ass their games and still come off like bandit's.Part of their ability to remain popular is that the individuals like the streamers,YouTubers rely on the popularity of Blizzard to make themselves popular so it is like a snowball effect.These people make Blizzard popular and in return Blizzard makes them popular.
As long as Blizzard's books keep showing profits "no matter legal or not"the stock rises,the shareholders are happy,Kotick gets more money and rewards.
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I see it brought up everywhere, not just video games. You obviously are not looking at all.
Blizzard is run by share holders, and at the end of the day they only care about stock value, everything else comes secondary.
However, for this to work, requires a very, very strong leadership and vision from whoever is in charge with X team to create Y game. If things go bad, well .. they will still have the base salary.
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
Sex gets a lot cheaper, depending on how much you are willing to lower your bar.
Same with drugs. Huffing gas is pretty cheap.
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"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
They pay Software Developers in India the equivalent of $18,000 a year. The same job that pays $118,000 in the USA. You still think Microsoft is great and Gates is doing all he can for those employees in the USA?
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
What if one employee is the driving force behind the generation of 1333 times more revenue?
What if there are 100,000 people who are viable candidates for one job but only a couple dozen viable candidates for the other?
- RPG Quiz - can you get all 25 right?
- FPS Quiz - how well do you know your shooters?
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Government funded medicine does not drive invention. Never has, never will. Do I hate the prices of some drugs? Absolutely. I think the order recently signed is a good one. If a company sells a drug to another country for a lower price, they have to match it here.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
About three years back I used to do the budgets for my group and Indian developers were rated for $42.00 / hr, I'm sure it's higher now.
The H1s here in the states actually make about the same pay as anyone else and if you decide to help them get a green card it costs about $20K a person.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Edit: On my phone so hard to search but this one shows about $21k including bonuses and stock etc...
https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Microsoft-Software-Developer-India-Salaries-EJI_IE1651.0,9_KO10,28_IL.29,34_IN115.htm
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
I know it's easier said than done to "Go get another job", but that advice is sound in nearly every other industry and similar scenario. I reckon some folk are just trying to crap on the company again, jumping on that ol' bandwagon.
What's happening isn't great. If even half of what is being said is true, it's horrible. However, no one is forcing them to stay there.
And of course I wanna encourage good over bad. The fuck? They are a business company on top of everything. If financial speaking, they are doing bad, then the whole company collapse.
You can't act like everything is OK when you lose money. And I would rather keep the employers and pay them less, when things go bad, than to fire them.
It seems you like a.."communism" approach here, where everyone is..equal. Or am I wrong?
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
I always says that when I see a waitress or waiter, coming to me with a ..bad mood saying ".....................what ..can I get...you". I get it, is a hard job, and maybe low salary, but hey, you choose this job. I'm here to eat and have some fun with my friends, and the last thing I want, is you ruining my time here. Act normally or gtfo!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!