Here's a thought, you could fix Archeage and add on to that? I mean it's still stuck with the continents that are there with no real expansions or more races.. From the original version till now it is barely recognizable, and not changes in a good way..
It's going to be mobile, I just have this feeling..
Remember folks....Blade and Soul 2 will be mobile only (so Aion 2).....dont be surprised if they come out next year or the year after saying this will be mobile only.
They released Archeage: Unchained like a year ago. And now they release the worst thing in the MMO genre: A sequel, making everything we grinded for worthless.
Imagine if we had to start from scratch every time World of Warcraft released a new expansion.
What people always forget is XLGames coded in the P2W designs and largely told Trion how to best monetize the game, they were the evil geniuses behind it all.
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What people always forget is XLGames coded in the P2W designs and largely told Trion how to best monetize the game, they were the evil geniuses behind it all.
nah its was both, trion with his "normalization and XL for his p2w, cut archeum drop to only happen on CS boxes, so it killed the crafting
there is not 2 ways about it, both did everything possible to burn this game, you know there is something wrong when the best time of the game was during the alpha phase
I put RF online and arche age as examples of how devs kill they own games for stupid greed
ArcheAge was a great game. Unfortunately, the poor choice of publisher they used for NA and EU release has really left a bad taste in the loyal player base. Hopefully they will look for a different publisher for AA2.
Trion Worlds is no more though.
Yeah, no more but the other company is not better lol
Can they please monetize it in some sort of reasonable way this time?
It's the classic example of a really cool game ruined by monetization
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Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
What a joke. "Greedy". Yea y'all gunna ruin another game with an absurd cash shop. But that's how it is over there. They make more money being greedy money grubbers than actually making a game people can enjoy.
I'm sure the 200 whales out here in the US will have fun playing amongst themselves.
I mean JFC they literally couldn't even keep their promise with unchained.
I'm sure the game would have been great. But the fact that it's korean and XLgames means it's going to be heavily monetized, to the point that you can not even compete without spending hundreds of dollars.
Except for the monetization model, AA was a good game, imo. I am quite looking forward to trying this one out.
Apparanty not to many actually agree with that.
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Is how many people are playing archeage no cash shop.
Then look at black desert which has just as many cash shop tricks as arche orginal, while adding in the econmy is pure communist controlled by the game company.
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The only major differnce between arche age and black desert besides action combat over tab target, is black desert doesnt force you to pvp, where arche age forces you too.
Just like mortal online 2, both are gonna fail bad reguardless of what cash shop they use. Pvp games like that only ever survive when you have a pay 2 win cash shop, so a few whales keep the game going, slaughtering the peasants.
Well put me down as someone who is NOT playing at all because of the cash shop.
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If they do this they really need a publisher that understands that they have to use the population balance controls so that one faction doesn't become so large that it takes a god damned alliance of everyone in the other faction just to deal with one singular guild... Trion not doing that is literally what screwed over archeage early on.
Archeage, the would be wowkiller hanged by its own greed. Hopefully Mr Song has learned from the p2w reputation of the original what not to do this time.
Ehh it got hanged well before 'greed" was a problem. Back when it was new and didn't have all the problems of cash shop stuff Trion caused issues by not actually implementing faction population controls that the game had and thus you had some servers where the balance of the game heavily favored one side or the other.
On one server the eastern faction was so large that a single guild had more players than most of the western faction allied together.... Shit like that basically killed the game for a lot of people that played on that server so they either moved or quit the game which furthered the problem. So it had problems stemming from Publisher incompetence well before publisher greed.
ArcheAge was a great game. Unfortunately, the poor choice of publisher they used for NA and EU release has really left a bad taste in the loyal player base. Hopefully they will look for a different publisher for AA2.
Trion Worlds is no more though.
Gamigo isn't doing any better either. Which is now the current publishing rights holder for the ArcheAge IP.
ArcheAge was a great game. Unfortunately, the poor choice of publisher they used for NA and EU release has really left a bad taste in the loyal player base. Hopefully they will look for a different publisher for AA2.
Trion Worlds is no more though.
Gamigo isn't doing any better either. Which is now the current publishing rights holder for the ArcheAge IP.
Nah they have the publishing rights holder for 1. The developer can go with someone else for 2 if it is a whole new game.
Unfortunately as much as I liked early archeage, I simply cannot give this game any hype what so ever with how badly on-going development in archeage was handled. I truly believe the company making the game and the publisher are just 100% incompetent and only care about maximizing quick profits, not making a solid long lasting game.
Especially with a game like ashes of creation on the horizon which I put alot more faith in getting a archeage style game right.
For me to even consider this they need to prove this is not a p2w scam or crap theme park style game. If they go back to the core of what made AA great before official NA launch and literally do the opposite of what they did from NA launch onward it has an actual chance. This is one of the few games I can name that got perpetually worse with every major content/sorta expansion that got released.
AA: Pre-launch was a stellar game. Launch was a p2w joke... example of how monetization can kill a great game. AA:U well was archeage if you take out everything that made archeage good to begin with and replace it with a sub par low budget theme-park experience.... Fixed the p2w but they removed the Archeage from the game.
So I will write this off until proven wrong. Fool me once shame on you, fool me for the 4th time well that would make me more retarded then I was when I trusted them when they released AA:U.
Don't get me wrong - the people of malta are wonderful - but the laws that are put into place to support easy day1 installation of holding companies and the amount of corrupt companies that Malta has attracted is a problem.
Don't get me wrong, I don't give two shits about my countries politics, HOWEVER from quickly skimming through it (there's a lot in that link), it looks like the writer is biased to the opposing party (nazjonalisti dunno how to reword that in english xD).
I'm not debunking any of that. Its true that there has been a rise of gambling companies coming here. This also had the unfortunate effect of raising the properties prices so much that I doubt I'll be able to afford one in the coming future. Anyway, enough about that, just wanted to chime in as my country was mentioned which is quite rare to see xD I rarely even find other maltese gamers in the online games I play.
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I hope it has markers over npc heads and you can do somersaults to practice for your gymnastics routine.
I hope it is so easy you just walk 2 feet ...GRATS you are level 2 !!!.
I hope the female characters look the part dressed in mini skirts and silk dresses.
Best of all I hope there is over sized weapons bit over sized spikey armor !!.
I want to see NPC's just standing there with a marker over their head,that way I know to click them,I need that help you know,otherwise I might think that NPC is a light post.
Even better,make sure to add a cash shop,i just love cash shops.
I hope after 6 months it shuts down then changes it's name and reopens under a different name and resells the game ...again !!.
I hope it is not very creative,same old flag pvp ,trivial words like BOSS...RAID....yes we have RAID zones and best of all you can SCALE them !!
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The Whales.
They released Archeage: Unchained like a year ago. And now they release the worst thing in the MMO genre: A sequel, making everything we grinded for worthless.
Imagine if we had to start from scratch every time World of Warcraft released a new expansion.
Fuck this game, and fuck this company.
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By the time it gets released we will probably be running Android 30, so there is no telling
It's the classic example of a really cool game ruined by monetization
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
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I'm sure the 200 whales out here in the US will have fun playing amongst themselves.
I mean JFC they literally couldn't even keep their promise with unchained.
I'm sure the game would have been great. But the fact that it's korean and XLgames means it's going to be heavily monetized, to the point that you can not even compete without spending hundreds of dollars.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/On one server the eastern faction was so large that a single guild had more players than most of the western faction allied together.... Shit like that basically killed the game for a lot of people that played on that server so they either moved or quit the game which furthered the problem. So it had problems stemming from Publisher incompetence well before publisher greed.
Don't frame us like that. We're part of the European union. I don't know what they're doing, but we adhere to the EU regulations.
Especially with a game like ashes of creation on the horizon which I put alot more faith in getting a archeage style game right.
For me to even consider this they need to prove this is not a p2w scam or crap theme park style game. If they go back to the core of what made AA great before official NA launch and literally do the opposite of what they did from NA launch onward it has an actual chance. This is one of the few games I can name that got perpetually worse with every major content/sorta expansion that got released.
AA: Pre-launch was a stellar game. Launch was a p2w joke... example of how monetization can kill a great game. AA:U well was archeage if you take out everything that made archeage good to begin with and replace it with a sub par low budget theme-park experience.... Fixed the p2w but they removed the Archeage from the game.
So I will write this off until proven wrong. Fool me once shame on you, fool me for the 4th time well that would make me more retarded then I was when I trusted them when they released AA:U.
I'm not debunking any of that. Its true that there has been a rise of gambling companies coming here. This also had the unfortunate effect of raising the properties prices so much that I doubt I'll be able to afford one in the coming future. Anyway, enough about that, just wanted to chime in as my country was mentioned which is quite rare to see xD I rarely even find other maltese gamers in the online games I play.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I hope it has markers over npc heads and you can do somersaults to practice for your gymnastics routine.
I hope it is so easy you just walk 2 feet ...GRATS you are level 2 !!!.
I hope the female characters look the part dressed in mini skirts and silk dresses.
Best of all I hope there is over sized weapons bit over sized spikey armor !!.
I want to see NPC's just standing there with a marker over their head,that way I know to click them,I need that help you know,otherwise I might think that NPC is a light post.
Even better,make sure to add a cash shop,i just love cash shops.
I hope after 6 months it shuts down then changes it's name and reopens under a different name and resells the game ...again !!.
I hope it is not very creative,same old flag pvp ,trivial words like BOSS...RAID....yes we have RAID zones and best of all you can SCALE them !!
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.