No Man's Sky's Newest Content Update is Called Origins and it Releases Next Week

System · September 2020

No Man's Sky's Newest Content Update is Called Origins and it Releases Next Week

Hello Games has announced that No Man's Sky's latest content drop, dubbed Origins, is set to release next week.

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foxgirl · September 2020

"There's no release date, but it's next week." So there is a release date of sorts, just not a specific day.

Scot · September 2020

This is the game that shows Anthem, MA and the rest what they should be doing; I think Anthem has languished, we will see what MA does.

Panther2103 · September 2020

It's really cool they managed to turn the insanely poor launch around and make this into something great. I still haven't been able to really get into it because of my short attention span, but I did have fun for a couple of hours. Maybe when this comes out I'll give it another shot.

ultimateduck · September 2020

They did a pretty good jab turning this into a VR game.

lahnmir · September 2020

WHERE IS THE ROADMAP??!! you can't just release stuff, this is ridiculous!

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

Babuinix · September 2020

Scot said:

This is the game that shows Anthem, MA and the rest what they should be doing; I think Anthem has languished, we will see what MA does.

Not really comparable as NMS relies on procedural generation of low poly assets to craft it's game and simplifies most of it's gameplay mechanics.

For AAA games there's bigger expectations so the making the hand craft assets and gameplay with the fidelity needed for them is way more costly and time consuming than for a procedural low poly game.

So while Hello Games as a small studio can keep pumping out NMS Free updates thanks to the money they made at launch and through Sony support while Bioware cant just keep pumping Free DLC's for Anthem/MassEffect as they would be losing money doing so.

klash2def · September 2020

I'm so happy for Hello Games. Their studio was under such an immense amount of pressure. NMS is the model of what to do if your game starts out flat. DONT QUIT.

I've ran into Sean a few times on the job last year, he's a good dude with a lot of vision. I'm really excited for their next project.

Bravo HG for sticking with it, cant wait to jump into Origins.

foxgirl · September 2020

Babuinix said:

Scot said:

This is the game that shows Anthem, MA and the rest what they should be doing; I think Anthem has languished, we will see what MA does.

Not really comparable as NMS relies on procedural generation of low poly assets to craft it's game and simplifies most of it's gameplay mechanics.

For AAA games there's bigger expectations so the making the hand craft assets and gameplay with the fidelity needed for them is way more costly and time consuming than for a procedural low poly game.

So while Hello Games as a small studio can keep pumping out NMS Free updates thanks to the money they made at launch and through Sony support while Bioware cant just keep pumping Free DLC's for Anthem/MassEffect as they would be losing money doing so.

I wouldn't call Anthem a AAA game, the whole franchise is flying under the radar as we speak.

As for the last bit of your comment, I believe you have it backwards. HG is a small company they don't have an endless supply of money even with Sony helping out so they *should* be charging for their DLCs. Bioware is owned by EA which is a huge company. They could pump out free DLCs and not feel the hit to their bank account.

Also this is a bit of an apples and oranges comparison.

Nyghthowler · September 2020

Scot said:

This is the game that shows Anthem, MA and the rest what they should be doing; I think Anthem has languished, we will see what MA does.

Babuinix said:

Scot said:

This is the game that shows Anthem, MA and the rest what they should be doing; I think Anthem has languished, we will see what MA does.

Not really comparable as NMS relies on procedural generation of low poly assets to craft it's game and simplifies most of it's gameplay mechanics.

For AAA games there's bigger expectations so the making the hand craft assets and gameplay with the fidelity needed for them is way more costly and time consuming than for a procedural low poly game.

So while Hello Games as a small studio can keep pumping out NMS Free updates thanks to the money they made at launch and through Sony support while Bioware cant just keep pumping Free DLC's for Anthem/MassEffect as they would be losing money doing so.

I think what @Scot was getting at is that all three games had shit launches, but Hello Games (tiny compared to EA/Bioware) persevered and did a complete 180.

Babuinix · September 2020

foxgirl said:
I wouldn't call Anthem a AAA game, the whole franchise is flying under the radar as we speak.
As for the last bit of your comment, I believe you have it backwards. HG is a small company they don't have an endless supply of money even with Sony helping out so they *should* be charging for their DLCs. Bioware is owned by EA which is a huge company. They could pump out free DLCs and not feel the hit to their bank account.
Also this is a bit of an apples and oranges comparison.

AAA has nothing to do with the popularity of a game but the production and marketing budget. Anthem pretty much falls into that category of having a big budget and huge marketing campaign behind it.

And nop, I don't have it backwards. exactly because HG is a small company that the money they got from NMS can make them go for a lot longer.

They sold 1.17 Million units on PS4 the first week alone. At 60$ and not even including the 140$ special editions that's +70$Million dollars which could alone fund the work of a 20 Dev team for more than 70 years.

That is like winning the lottery for a small company like Hello Games who comprised of around 20 dev's but for Big Publishers/Studios like EA/Bungie that budget probably wouldn't be enough to cover cutscenes and marketing alone.

Nyghthowler said:

I think what @Scot was getting at is that all three games had shit launches, but Hello Games (tiny compared to EA/Bioware) persevered and did a complete 180.

Yeap, apples and oranges in this case as maitaining/updating high fidelity AAA hand crafted games is a completely different ball game than procedural low fidelity ones.

KnightFalz · September 2020

As has been said, Hello Games' recovery with NMS is exemplary, as is their ongoing stream of major updates provided to the purchaser at no additional cost.

If other developers followed their lead in terms of commitment and perseverance we'd all be better off, whatever our games of choice.

Babuinix · September 2020

KnightFalz said:

As has been said, Hello Games' recovery with NMS is exemplary, as is their ongoing stream of major updates provided to the purchaser at no additional cost.

If other developers followed their lead in terms of commitment and perseverance we'd all be better off, whatever our games of choice.

Other's developers most likely don't have the money to keep improving their games because they never had NMS world wide exposure and marketing campaign that generated millions of dollars in pre-orders alone.

This generalisation that dev's don't update or improve their games because they are lazy and lack commitment is ridiculously stupid and a very ignorant way of perceiving things. Considering the amount of work, time and money making a game requires for very low pay. The truth is that most dev's simply don't have the budget to do so and have family's to feed.

BeansnBread · September 2020

Babuinix said:

KnightFalz said:

As has been said, Hello Games' recovery with NMS is exemplary, as is their ongoing stream of major updates provided to the purchaser at no additional cost.

If other developers followed their lead in terms of commitment and perseverance we'd all be better off, whatever our games of choice.

Other's developers most likely don't have the money to keep improving their games because they never had NMS world wide exposure and marketing campaign that generated millions of dollars in pre-orders alone.

This generalisation that dev's don't update or improve their games because they are lazy and lack commitment is ridiculously stupid and a very ignorant way of perceiving things. Considering the amount of work, time and money making a game requires for very low pay. The truth is that most dev's simply don't have the budget to do so and have family's to feed.

What kind of stupid strawman shit is that?

Praising one developer for good results isn't the same as saying everyone else is lazy and lacks commitment.

Babuinix · September 2020

BeansnBread said:

What kind of stupid strawman shit is that?
Praising one developer for good results isn't the same as saying everyone else is lazy and lacks commitment.

Not a strawman at all, gamers seem to think that games fail because dev's lack dedication or perseverance when it's usually a budget factor.

Implying that other dev's don't have the "commitment and perseverance" of the NMS dev's is insulting to other devs.

Because NMS example is dumb as their game launched under very peculiar conditions, namely the hype train it managed to generate along with the world wide marketing campaign which generated pre-orders allowing the company the monetary cushing to increase their workforce and keep developing their game despite the critical backlash and offer free DLC's to get back the good will of gamers.

Most indie companies and small games don't have access to a world wide campaign marketing effort to generate millions of pre-orders wihch in turn afford them to keep working on games if they release badly much less work for free and give away DLC updates lol

BeansnBread · September 2020

Babuinix said:

BeansnBread said:

What kind of stupid strawman shit is that?
Praising one developer for good results isn't the same as saying everyone else is lazy and lacks commitment.

Not a strawman at all, gamers seem to think that games fail because dev's lack dedication or perseverance when it's usually a budget factor. Bringing NMS example is dumb because their game launched under very peculiar conditions, namely the hype train it managed to generate along with their funding which allowed them the monetary cushing to keep developing their game despite the critical backlash.

Gamers don't "seem to think" anything.

You don't know what gamers think.
You don't know why games fail.
You don't know Hello Games' financial situation.
You don't know what you're talking about.

Scot · September 2020

Babuinix said:

foxgirl said:
I wouldn't call Anthem a AAA game, the whole franchise is flying under the radar as we speak.
As for the last bit of your comment, I believe you have it backwards. HG is a small company they don't have an endless supply of money even with Sony helping out so they *should* be charging for their DLCs. Bioware is owned by EA which is a huge company. They could pump out free DLCs and not feel the hit to their bank account.
Also this is a bit of an apples and oranges comparison.

AAA has nothing to do with the popularity of a game but the production and marketing budget. Anthem pretty much falls into that category of having a big budget and huge marketing campaign behind it.

And nop, I don't have it backwards. exactly because HG is a small company that the money they got from NMS can make them go for a lot longer.

They sold 1.17 Million units on PS4 the first week alone. At 60$ and not even including the 140$ special editions that's +70$Million dollars which could alone fund the work of a 20 Dev team for more than 70 years.

That is like winning the lottery for a small company like Hello Games who comprised of around 20 dev's but for Big Publishers/Studios like EA/Bungie that budget probably wouldn't be enough to cover cutscenes and marketing alone.

Nyghthowler said:

I think what @Scot was getting at is that all three games had shit launches, but Hello Games (tiny compared to EA/Bioware) persevered and did a complete 180.

Yeap, apples and oranges in this case as maitaining/updating high fidelity AAA hand crafted games is a completely different ball game than procedural low fidelity ones.

The comparison stands, it does not matter how they were made. Ask yourself this question, do you think bearing in mind what you have said that Anthem has done the best it can since launch within the constraints you mentioned? It seems paralysed compared to NMS, that cannot just be down to AAA graphics.

Babuinix · September 2020

BeansnBread said:
Gamers don't "seem to think" anything.

Not quite. Just because you don't "seem to think" at all doesn't mean your ignorance has to be an absolute lol

Games fail because the reason every product fails. They fail to get enough buyers to sustain it's production costs. For whatever reason that may be.

"The amount of money that No Man's Sky developer Hello Games had at its disposal rose more than 2,559 per cent between 2016 and 2018.

That's according to the studio's Companies House filing for the 18 months ending January 31st, 2018 in which Hello Games claims it had £59,788,905 ($74.7m) in the bank and in hand, compared to £2.2m ($2.8m) it reported for the 12 month period ending July 31st, 2016. There's also a further £640,255 ($799,467) that was owed to Hello Games by debtors in 2018, a slight increase on the £567,991 ($709,233) it reported in 2016."

https://www.pcgamesinsider.biz/news/69348/no-mans-sky-developer-hello-games-cash-reserves-rose-over-2500-between-2016-and-2018/

Just because You're ignorant about a subject doesn't mean everyone is.

NMS sold like an AAA game but on a shoestring budget.

Scot said:

The comparison stands, it does not matter how they were made. Ask yourself this question, do you think bearing in mind what you have said that Anthem has done the best it can since launch within the constraints you mentioned? It seems paralysed compared to NMS, that cannot just be down to AAA graphics.

It doesn't, just read the article in the post.
You're comparing updating a woodcabin ,who sold for 100000x the price it cost to make, with a missing room and new furniture to updating a skyscrapper who opened without elevators and sold for less than it cost to make.

Updating one is different from another just like maintaining one is different than maintining another.

lahnmir · September 2020

Babuinix said:

It doesn't, just read the article in the post.
You're comparing updating a woodcabin who sold for 100000x the priced it costed to make with a missing room and new furniture to updating a skyscrapper who opened without elevators and sold for less than it costed to make.

Maintaining one is different than maintining another.

So THAT is the reason the elevators in SC are epic fail, makes total sense.

/Cheers,
Lahnmir

Babuinix · September 2020

lahnmir said:
So THAT is the reason the elevators in SC are epic fail, makes total sense.

Confess You're just too afraid of using them? Have you tried using stairs? Would be good for cardio

kitarad · September 2020

I am really impressed with this game. I think it shows what a team can do when they are motivated.

RedFireCE · September 2020

People see that and still say Roberts Space Industries is a legitimate business.

Mazeneal · September 2020

HOLY FUCK! Y'all will argue about anything......"OMG how could you compare the little stick to the spose to be big stick!?" ..../chuckle

Theocritus · September 2020

Hmmm I fired up my NMS today and once it loaded (which took over 10 minutes) it was just a blank white screen. I could hear the sounds from the game, but just a blank white picture. No idea what has happened but apparently I can't play it anymore.

Mazeneal · September 2020

Theocritus said:

Hmmm I fired up my NMS today and once it loaded (which took over 10 minutes) it was just a blank white screen. I could hear the sounds from the game, but just a blank white picture. No idea what has happened but apparently I can't play it anymore.

I want to say you are being sarcastic.....you are, right? If you are serious, then why wouldn't you have googled the issue in place of posting this comment?

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