I don't think it stems from Male Descrimination in the selection process. I think its a result of Male Descrimination in the scholarship selection. If you can't pay for your degree why pursue it? Less then 50% of scholarships apply to men. Of those much less then 50% are for non-minorities. You have 35% of the population competing for 20% or less of the scholarships. While you have a black woman who can apply to over 60% of the scholarships and they represent only 9% of the population.
If you want an accredited degree, you can find a school that will give you one without any questions. Also the reality back when I started college was that you can make more money getting into construction then you can get with a bachelors degree. One of my friends who didn't go to college already bought a house and makes 6 figures by going into construction.
The numbers in the Netherlands, while not that extreme, also tend to show a slight bias towards women. What had happened? Were women becoming more ambitious? Were men slacking off or getting dumber?
A study showed that neither was true. It was found that males (on average) going to university usually went for useful and more 'difficult' fields of (mostly hard) science and technology. Women (on average) however, didn't care that much about career and mostly chose 'fun' fields that are reputed to be the easier of the bunch, like pedagogy, communication 'science', social psychology, artsy-fartsy type studies, et cetera. A factor analysis found that this perfectly explained the difference in grades and degrees conferred, and even gave men a slight edge.
I don't know much about America, but this might also be a factor. Also, affirmative action is the silliest thing ever.
I know you were joking, but on a more general note, I think one must be wary of drawing the wrong conclusions.
There is a growing belief among a segment of the US population that the current educational system is biased against male children. This belief is most commonly held by young mothers, many with conservative political leanings, who believe the current educational system is too"liberal", is too "feminist", etc.
To properly understand something like this, we need to composite a lot of factors. First of all, one must understand that women have been starting college in larger numbers than men for a long time, decades in fact. The main thing which has changed is not the _availability_ of college education to women. It is the _completion rate_. Many, many women abandoned their career aspirations in the face of family or personal concerns. This is changing. I can't say exactly why, but I think two big reasons might be the increase of educated female role models and a change in social values. In previous generations, there was almost a negative stigma against a woman placing an education over the rearing of children. Nowadays, it is almost the opposite. A woman who drops out of college and becomes a stay-at-home mom is seen by some as perpetuating the patriarchy, so probably some are motivated to pursue a degree purely out of normative pressure.
Changing demographics is also definitely part of it, though. Because of the fact that heavily male-dominated fields were disastrously hit by the recession, there was actually a brief period during which US employment numbers indicated that _more women_ were in the workplace than men. This doesn't mean much by itself without further context, but it does anecdotally illustrate a more longterm trend: many traditionally male-dominated fields are either declining or don't require a degree or degrees to pursue, while many traditionally female-dominated fields are expanding and are now increasing their educational requirements. To point to a few male-dominated fields in question, look at construction and mining. Meanwhile, some of the most rapidly-expanding employment avenues in healthcare are female-dominated.
Now you need to show the chart that displays how many can't find a job with that degree and student loan debt they've saddled themselves with.
The fact is you don't NEED to go to college unless shooting for a job that requires it like Doctor, Lawyer, other professional types.
The one's that are pushing the myth that all need to go are the college's themselves since it's just a suckers game to them, they don't care as long as you pay them money so they can keep their jobs.
Like someone said, there's more money to be made in the construction trades and you aren't saddled with any student load debt.
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Funny, the chart reflecting male and female gaming addicts is exactly the opposite.
You don't think that computer games will be blamed for this trend...........
If true, that's pretty sad.
Some blame male discrimination in schools and I tend to agree with that.
I don't think it stems from Male Descrimination in the selection process. I think its a result of Male Descrimination in the scholarship selection. If you can't pay for your degree why pursue it? Less then 50% of scholarships apply to men. Of those much less then 50% are for non-minorities. You have 35% of the population competing for 20% or less of the scholarships. While you have a black woman who can apply to over 60% of the scholarships and they represent only 9% of the population.
If you want an accredited degree, you can find a school that will give you one without any questions. Also the reality back when I started college was that you can make more money getting into construction then you can get with a bachelors degree. One of my friends who didn't go to college already bought a house and makes 6 figures by going into construction.
The numbers in the Netherlands, while not that extreme, also tend to show a slight bias towards women. What had happened? Were women becoming more ambitious? Were men slacking off or getting dumber?
A study showed that neither was true. It was found that males (on average) going to university usually went for useful and more 'difficult' fields of (mostly hard) science and technology. Women (on average) however, didn't care that much about career and mostly chose 'fun' fields that are reputed to be the easier of the bunch, like pedagogy, communication 'science', social psychology, artsy-fartsy type studies, et cetera. A factor analysis found that this perfectly explained the difference in grades and degrees conferred, and even gave men a slight edge.
I don't know much about America, but this might also be a factor. Also, affirmative action is the silliest thing ever.
I know you were joking, but on a more general note, I think one must be wary of drawing the wrong conclusions.
There is a growing belief among a segment of the US population that the current educational system is biased against male children. This belief is most commonly held by young mothers, many with conservative political leanings, who believe the current educational system is too"liberal", is too "feminist", etc.
To properly understand something like this, we need to composite a lot of factors. First of all, one must understand that women have been starting college in larger numbers than men for a long time, decades in fact. The main thing which has changed is not the _availability_ of college education to women. It is the _completion rate_. Many, many women abandoned their career aspirations in the face of family or personal concerns. This is changing. I can't say exactly why, but I think two big reasons might be the increase of educated female role models and a change in social values. In previous generations, there was almost a negative stigma against a woman placing an education over the rearing of children. Nowadays, it is almost the opposite. A woman who drops out of college and becomes a stay-at-home mom is seen by some as perpetuating the patriarchy, so probably some are motivated to pursue a degree purely out of normative pressure.
Changing demographics is also definitely part of it, though. Because of the fact that heavily male-dominated fields were disastrously hit by the recession, there was actually a brief period during which US employment numbers indicated that _more women_ were in the workplace than men. This doesn't mean much by itself without further context, but it does anecdotally illustrate a more longterm trend: many traditionally male-dominated fields are either declining or don't require a degree or degrees to pursue, while many traditionally female-dominated fields are expanding and are now increasing their educational requirements. To point to a few male-dominated fields in question, look at construction and mining. Meanwhile, some of the most rapidly-expanding employment avenues in healthcare are female-dominated.
stunning graph there..,
not to mention that the two lines are just identical flips drawn in a paint program,
Regardless; Its not like this in the real world :P so stop moaning about the youth of today being losers.
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
The fact is you don't NEED to go to college unless shooting for a job that requires it like Doctor, Lawyer, other professional types.
The one's that are pushing the myth that all need to go are the college's themselves since it's just a suckers game to them, they don't care as long as you pay them money so they can keep their jobs.
Like someone said, there's more money to be made in the construction trades and you aren't saddled with any student load debt.
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