I managed to snag one off Best Buy this morning. Just randomly refreshed at around 7:30am, and they had stock.
Haven't updated a graphics card since my 760.
Not excited for the $400 price, but excited to be able to play my newer games on my newer monitor, on higher settings
So the 400 $ are the new 250 $? To all but my income I guess. With that joke of a "budged" price I won't loose any sleep over lack of availability.
Different people are willing to pay different amounts. That's why AMD and Nvidia offer different cards at many different price points. You get something faster by paying more, at least up to whatever their top end card is, and can choose whatever fits your budget.
It's not clear how far down the stack Nvidia will go with Ampere. My guess is that we'll see one more Ampere GPU launched, at about $300 for the top bin, and then $250 or so for a lower bin. There might be another new card for $200, but at some point low enough on the stack, they might just keep selling the GTX 1600 series. After all, Nvidia's low end still consists of the GeForce GT 1030 for about $90 and the GeForce GT 710 for about $50, and those aren't even Turing cards at all.
So the 400 $ are the new 250 $? To all but my income I guess. With that joke of a "budged" price I won't loose any sleep over lack of availability.
Different people are willing to pay different amounts. That's why AMD and Nvidia offer different cards at many different price points. You get something faster by paying more, at least up to whatever their top end card is, and can choose whatever fits your budget.
It's not clear how far down the stack Nvidia will go with Ampere. My guess is that we'll see one more Ampere GPU launched, at about $300 for the top bin, and then $250 or so for a lower bin. There might be another new card for $200, but at some point low enough on the stack, they might just keep selling the GTX 1600 series. After all, Nvidia's low end still consists of the GeForce GT 1030 for about $90 and the GeForce GT 710 for about $50, and those aren't even Turing cards at all.
I was referring to the 3060 being placed on the same pedestal of "budget advanced entry card" as i.e. the 1060 TI and even the 2060 for a short while when it got released while aiming for a price that is everything but budget. Sure, there could most likely a lot of reasons for that dragged out (cryptominer craze, c19, added artificial shortage because seller like higher prices). Does not change that the budget value for the majority of the population has not really changed since then; and considering the pandemic in a lot of cases probably even worsened.
Yes, its also true that different people are willing and able to pay different amounts. But that is an entirely different topic.
So the 400 $ are the new 250 $? To all but my income I guess. With that joke of a "budged" price I won't loose any sleep over lack of availability.
Different people are willing to pay different amounts. That's why AMD and Nvidia offer different cards at many different price points. You get something faster by paying more, at least up to whatever their top end card is, and can choose whatever fits your budget.
It's not clear how far down the stack Nvidia will go with Ampere. My guess is that we'll see one more Ampere GPU launched, at about $300 for the top bin, and then $250 or so for a lower bin. There might be another new card for $200, but at some point low enough on the stack, they might just keep selling the GTX 1600 series. After all, Nvidia's low end still consists of the GeForce GT 1030 for about $90 and the GeForce GT 710 for about $50, and those aren't even Turing cards at all.
I was referring to the 3060 being placed on the same pedestal of "budged advanced entry card" as i.e. the 1060 TI and even the 2060 for a short while when it got released while aiming for a price that is everything but budged. Sure, there could most likely a lot of reasons for that dragged out (cryptominer craze, c19, added artificial shortage because seller like higher prices). Does not change that the budged value for the majority of the population has not really changed since then; and considering the pandemic in a lot of cases probably even worsened.
Yes, its also true that different people are willing and able to pay different amounts. But that is an entirely different topic.
You keep using the word "budged". I don't think that word means what you think it means. It basically means that something moved slightly.
Maybe they meant "budget". It would make more sense in that context.
It's very likely. For some foreign speakers "budged" feels much more natural word than "budget", so if English isn't your native language it's really easy spelling mistake to make.
I think I made that mistake more than 10 times before I learned the correct spelling.
Maybe they meant "budget". It would make more sense in that context.
I do agree that Nvidia and AMD have tried to move goalposts regarding performance tiers. This is basically a rebranded 2080. The xx60 series has long been the entry level to performance gaming cards. Basically Nvidia has cranked up the power (~200W is about the same power TDP as a 2080) and branded an xx60 with a beefier price tag.
Yeah, he probably meant budget. But he used "budged" four times in a row, which is why I pointed it out.
What you point out is why I define product tiers by the price tag, not the marketing name.
So the 400 $ are the new 250 $? To all but my income I guess. With that joke of a "budged" price I won't loose any sleep over lack of availability.
Different people are willing to pay different amounts. That's why AMD and Nvidia offer different cards at many different price points. You get something faster by paying more, at least up to whatever their top end card is, and can choose whatever fits your budget.
It's not clear how far down the stack Nvidia will go with Ampere. My guess is that we'll see one more Ampere GPU launched, at about $300 for the top bin, and then $250 or so for a lower bin. There might be another new card for $200, but at some point low enough on the stack, they might just keep selling the GTX 1600 series. After all, Nvidia's low end still consists of the GeForce GT 1030 for about $90 and the GeForce GT 710 for about $50, and those aren't even Turing cards at all.
I was referring to the 3060 being placed on the same pedestal of "budged advanced entry card" as i.e. the 1060 TI and even the 2060 for a short while when it got released while aiming for a price that is everything but budged. Sure, there could most likely a lot of reasons for that dragged out (cryptominer craze, c19, added artificial shortage because seller like higher prices). Does not change that the budged value for the majority of the population has not really changed since then; and considering the pandemic in a lot of cases probably even worsened.
Yes, its also true that different people are willing and able to pay different amounts. But that is an entirely different topic.
You keep using the word "budged". I don't think that word means what you think it means. It basically means that something moved slightly.
*sigh* Yes, I obviously meant budget. And even though, as correctly guessed, I am not a English native I consider it a stupid mishap on my part. I do have the feeling you and most others reading that did got the point I made regardless
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Haven't updated a graphics card since my 760. Not excited for the $400 price, but excited to be able to play my newer games on my newer monitor, on higher settings
edit: spelling
It's not clear how far down the stack Nvidia will go with Ampere. My guess is that we'll see one more Ampere GPU launched, at about $300 for the top bin, and then $250 or so for a lower bin. There might be another new card for $200, but at some point low enough on the stack, they might just keep selling the GTX 1600 series. After all, Nvidia's low end still consists of the GeForce GT 1030 for about $90 and the GeForce GT 710 for about $50, and those aren't even Turing cards at all.
Yes, its also true that different people are willing and able to pay different amounts. But that is an entirely different topic.
edit: spelling
I think I made that mistake more than 10 times before I learned the correct spelling.
What you point out is why I define product tiers by the price tag, not the marketing name.