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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    remsleep said:
    JeroKane said:

    remsleep said:

    Forgot to mention one thing - Cyberpunk 2077 made me change my mind about Geralt from Witcher series.

    See i always hated how in Witcher games you were forced to play Geralt and there were no alternatives. 

    But having played V in Cyberpunk 2077 it made me realize how weak of a character V is, and going with a more defined character like Geralt actually makes for better gameplay.

    V is actually one of the biggest weaknesses in Cyberpunk story, V is just not very interesting its a very mediocre character because it lacks a strong definition like Geralt had.

    So turns out having a more restricted character choice that is a strongly defined character makes for a much stronger story. 

    V is so meh... like I didn't even care what happend to V in all 6 endings, funny that your own character is the most forgettable 



    With the Witcher games everything was handed to them on a silver platter, since they could take everything straight from the books. Andrzej Sapkowski had done all the hard work for them.

    Cyberpunk 2077 has basically exposed CDPR for being a one trick Pony.

    Coming from several playthroughs of Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, the story/mission writing in CyberPunk 2077 gotta be the biggest letdown. Its total weak sauce! Flat and boring!
    Even getting Keanu Reeves involved could not save them from this disaster. I am actually suprised Keanu Reeves went along with this and did not demand better writing/dialog for his character.

    Yep I feel the same way - I really failed to realize just how good Witcher 3 writing really was - Cyberpunk 2077 is such an obvious step or 2 steps down from Witcher 3 in terms of story and side missions. It really feels flat in comparison to me.

    Keanu sounds bored in so many lines, and the material is poorly written, so can't blame him much. A voice actor can't fix boring material.
    Err, Keanu always sounds bored going through his lines, pretty much his entire persona in John Wick.
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,200
    IceAge said:
    IceAge said:


    But that doesn't mean the 13 mil sales can be called "relatively good". THAT is the problem. 


    Actually that is exactly what it should be called. Relatively good. It's relative to the refunds and other issues it's experienced. Had it not had the issues it has now, it could have been called very good. Sales went the wrong way, 13 million after a few weeks is good, sure, but refunds are still pouring in.  


    You are acting like refunds will happen "in the millions" , /facepalm .

    Sales went the wrong way you say, then ( you again ) say 13 mils in few weeks ( 2 weeks that is ) is good. /secondfacepalm

    Waiting for the 3rd /facepalm 

    IceAge said:


    But that doesn't mean the 13 mil sales can be called "relatively good". THAT is the problem. 


    Actually that is exactly what it should be called. Relatively good. It's relative to the refunds and other issues it's experienced. Had it not had the issues it has now, it could have been called very good. Sales went the wrong way, 13 million after a few weeks is good, sure, but refunds are still pouring in.  


    True points. Adding to that, the refunds counted in that figure are those done by CDPR themselves that does not include those done from other sources. That matters because those numbers could be much larger than some think.  
    Crymeariver.

    Wake me up when a game is refunded "in the millions". 

    Even if there will be 1 more million in..refunds, that will still be 12 million sales, with 4 millions in the last 2 ( !! ) weeks. 

    Carry on!
    You act like you know how many refunds were requested. You don't. 


    Nor do you or other "tryhards" from here who are like : OMG!! THEY REFUNDED!! If you want, I call "name" them, no worries.



    You act like you know how many sales they forfeited by Sony pulling the game. You don't.  

    Nor do you or other "tryhards" from here who are like : OMG!! THEY REFUNDED!! If you want, I call "name" them, no worries.


    You're fanning hard for the game so you argue semantics of the word relative. Either you don't understand the word or you're willfully ignoring its definition.  Which one of those two people would you prefer to be? 
    I'm not even playing the game. Tried it for like 20 mins, but as of now I'm playing Shadowlands. 

    Listen, console version sucks, I get it, but that's basically it in the face of PC players. When they review the game, they are like : 

    1) Very sorry for Console Players! I wish CDR will release a stable version for them soon. For PC.. I LOVE IT!!

    2) Yea, sucks for Console Players, but I play on PC, so .. yea! Some bugs here and there, but the game is great!

    3) Console who? Fuck them!! PC MASTER RACE BABY!! Cyberpunk 2077 Best game ever!!!

    You see now? We are talking about how stable the game is.

    For anything else, like "GAME REVIEW" ( as a whole ), there is a different discussion.

    So, don't make it like the "entire" version of the game, SUCKS , DISASTER, etc, because of the poorly optimization for old-gen consoles.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    IceAge said:
    IceAge said:
    IceAge said:


    But that doesn't mean the 13 mil sales can be called "relatively good". THAT is the problem. 


    Actually that is exactly what it should be called. Relatively good. It's relative to the refunds and other issues it's experienced. Had it not had the issues it has now, it could have been called very good. Sales went the wrong way, 13 million after a few weeks is good, sure, but refunds are still pouring in.  


    You are acting like refunds will happen "in the millions" , /facepalm .

    Sales went the wrong way you say, then ( you again ) say 13 mils in few weeks ( 2 weeks that is ) is good. /secondfacepalm

    Waiting for the 3rd /facepalm 

    IceAge said:


    But that doesn't mean the 13 mil sales can be called "relatively good". THAT is the problem. 


    Actually that is exactly what it should be called. Relatively good. It's relative to the refunds and other issues it's experienced. Had it not had the issues it has now, it could have been called very good. Sales went the wrong way, 13 million after a few weeks is good, sure, but refunds are still pouring in.  


    True points. Adding to that, the refunds counted in that figure are those done by CDPR themselves that does not include those done from other sources. That matters because those numbers could be much larger than some think.  
    Crymeariver.

    Wake me up when a game is refunded "in the millions". 

    Even if there will be 1 more million in..refunds, that will still be 12 million sales, with 4 millions in the last 2 ( !! ) weeks. 

    Carry on!
    You act like you know how many refunds were requested. You don't. 


    Nor do you or other "tryhards" from here who are like : OMG!! THEY REFUNDED!! If you want, I call "name" them, no worries.



    You act like you know how many sales they forfeited by Sony pulling the game. You don't.  

    Nor do you or other "tryhards" from here who are like : OMG!! THEY REFUNDED!! If you want, I call "name" them, no worries.


    You're fanning hard for the game so you argue semantics of the word relative. Either you don't understand the word or you're willfully ignoring its definition.  Which one of those two people would you prefer to be? 
    I'm not even playing the game. Tried it for like 20 mins, but as of now I'm playing Shadowlands. 

    Listen, console version sucks, I get it, but that's basically it in the face of PC players. When they review the game, they are like : 

    1) Very sorry for Console Players! I wish CDR will release a stable version for them soon. For PC.. I LOVE IT!!

    2) Yea, sucks for Console Players, but I play on PC, so .. yea! Some bugs here and there, but the game is great!

    3) Console who? Fuck them!! PC MASTER RACE BABY!! Cyberpunk 2077 Best game ever!!!

    You see now? We are talking about how stable the game is.

    For anything else, like "GAME REVIEW" ( as a whole ), there is a different discussion.

    So, don't make it like the "entire" version of the game, SUCKS , DISASTER, etc, because of the poorly optimization for old-gen consoles.
    uhm, I never said the game sucks. I'm saying that the term relative is just that.. relative. I've played the game well over 100 hours at this point. Doesn't change the meaning of the term 'relative' that you were railing against when you came in here so matter-of-factly.. 

    The game deserves the criticism it receives in the vast majority of cases. Some may take it a little overboard, but truly the game has a ton of issues. 

    I can acknowledge that and still have played it for over 100 hours. I've got well over 500 in FO76 too. The game is still buggy - a longshot from the trash fire it was - but I know it's got issues. I can play something for what it is. 



  • CelciusCelcius Member RarePosts: 1,877
    It sucks what is going on with consoles, but it does seem like the game is doing great on PC. It is not like everyone just decided to stop playing. Hell, right now there are over 200k people playing it on Steam (Only behind Dota 2 and CS Go)
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Over 13 million people bought a particular game right at launch, just on hype, with no clue whether it was actually good or not.  So you see why publishers want to hype their games excessively.
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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    edited December 2020
    lahnmir said:
    Aeander said:
    lahnmir said:
    Aeander said:
    The real question isn't how much the game sold. It's how much the game sold compared to what it was expected to sell. The information we need is what number the investors realistically wanted to reach.
    16-28 million units in the first month. They did 13 million in the first 10 days of that month. They want 30 million in its first year.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    So what's the read on that? While 13 million is a huge number, it is small compared to those expectations. 

    We need to keep in mind that most game sales occur at the point of launch, while these are also the most valuable sales, as they are at full price.

    We must also not underestimate the impact that bad word of mouth, controversy, and being flat out removed from an entire platform will have on the long tail that they are counting on to more than double its sales over the next year.
    Agree. And not. 13 million in 10 days means you have 21 days left to sell at least 3 million with Christmas in sight. And although the game has been removed from the PS store it is pretty safe to assume it will be back within a year creating a significant surge in sales. And I am not even talking about the boost that the official New Gen release will bring which will surely happen in the coming eleven months. We’ll see what happens, calling it a disaster or not good seems like a stretch for now.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir

    Ill put the correction here ..

    its 18 - 25 million in first month , they have no chance of making that mark now .. it will be fortunate to reach 18 in a year(without the help of sales) which way under shoots the target .. and again they borrowwed money to make this game .. from more than one source ..

    OGTLF continues its downtrend .. Investors are not happy

    Analysts had forecast that "Cyberpunk" would sell anywhere from 18 million to 25 million copies in its first month. The day it came out CD Projekt said the game had eight million preorders, of which about 59%, or 4.7 million copies, were for PCs.

    A spokeswoman for CD Projekt declined to comment further. CD Projekt shares are down about 25% since Wednesday's close in Warsaw trading, shedding more than $2 billion of market value.

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  • KhebelnKhebeln Member UncommonPosts: 794

    Scorchien said:

    And yet still falling way short of there target mark , anticipated sales for first month were 16-28 million units ..



    That is not going to happen this is a failed endeavor ..



    And why investors are lining up with a CAL



    Not in first week lol. In half a year sure. Its already best selling game ever in first week.

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  • HuntrezzHuntrezz Member UncommonPosts: 92
    edited December 2020
    I was gonna type some comment here but forgot what I was going to say. Ya'll shouldn't laugh as its probably happened to you. And yes if you're wondering, I did go back and read what I read so I could remember to tell you I forgot my comment in the first place.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Mars_OMG said:
    One of the greatest RPG's ever made. 
    I put Cyberpunk 2077 in my second place all time greatest RPG list :)

    1. Kingdom Come : Deliverance  
    2. Cyberpunk 2077
    3. Witcher 2
    4. Mass Effect 2
    5. Witcher 3 
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited December 2020
    Interesting observation, the "average gamer" may still be buying Cyberpunk 2077 seeing as they don't closely follow gaming news.

    As I was returning a PS4 copy my wife bought from Gamestop two customers asked the clerk about buying it and he was all too willing to talk up how great it was.

    Both thanked me profusely for setting the record straight and didn't buy it; the clerk not so much.

    Hey, if you can't save everyone, at least try to save those you can.

    I did end up buying the PC version online because after checking first with my son, it's still the only game he was interested in playing after Ghost of Tushima (sic), which another family member already covered.

    Here's the thing, he's unaware of what features might be missing having never really followed the game's development very closely, he isn't hyper critical of game developers, nor has any real expectations from any game he buys except will it be fun or not.

    Not sure he wasn't switched at birth or something, but he does enjoy more games than I do for sure.

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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    Khebeln said:

    Scorchien said:

    And yet still falling way short of there target mark , anticipated sales for first month were 16-28 million units ..



    That is not going to happen this is a failed endeavor ..



    And why investors are lining up with a CAL



    Not in first week lol. In half a year sure. Its already best selling game ever in first week.
    It's not even the best selling game this year. Animal Crossing sold 22 million copies, as of August.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    Scorchien said:
    lahnmir said:
    Aeander said:
    lahnmir said:
    Aeander said:
    The real question isn't how much the game sold. It's how much the game sold compared to what it was expected to sell. The information we need is what number the investors realistically wanted to reach.
    16-28 million units in the first month. They did 13 million in the first 10 days of that month. They want 30 million in its first year.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    So what's the read on that? While 13 million is a huge number, it is small compared to those expectations. 

    We need to keep in mind that most game sales occur at the point of launch, while these are also the most valuable sales, as they are at full price.

    We must also not underestimate the impact that bad word of mouth, controversy, and being flat out removed from an entire platform will have on the long tail that they are counting on to more than double its sales over the next year.
    Agree. And not. 13 million in 10 days means you have 21 days left to sell at least 3 million with Christmas in sight. And although the game has been removed from the PS store it is pretty safe to assume it will be back within a year creating a significant surge in sales. And I am not even talking about the boost that the official New Gen release will bring which will surely happen in the coming eleven months. We’ll see what happens, calling it a disaster or not good seems like a stretch for now.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir

    Ill put the correction here ..

    its 18 - 25 million in first month , they have no chance of making that mark now .. it will be fortunate to reach 18 in a year(without the help of sales) which way under shoots the target .. and again they borrowwed money to make this game .. from more than one source ..

    OGTLF continues its downtrend .. Investors are not happy

    Analysts had forecast that "Cyberpunk" would sell anywhere from 18 million to 25 million copies in its first month. The day it came out CD Projekt said the game had eight million preorders, of which about 59%, or 4.7 million copies, were for PCs.

    A spokeswoman for CD Projekt declined to comment further. CD Projekt shares are down about 25% since Wednesday's close in Warsaw trading, shedding more than $2 billion of market value.

    I stand corrected, in that case they still have to sell another 5 million, not 3. But I have a hard time believing they can sell 5 million units in 10 days after pre-orders but will struggle to sell another 5 million in the other 346 days of the year. A year that will definitely feature a relaunch on the PS Store and a New Gen launch.

    shares tumbling seems like a knee jerk reaction to all the negativity to me. You know, as well as me, that simply yelling doom enough can have a huge effect on shares and stock without something actually happening (Believe it or not, in my country a brand went bankrupt simply because a comedian said that those who were using it were losers).

    We’ll see what happens in the coming months, I have no problem eating crow if it turns out I was wrong. I do have a problem with yelling doom prematurely, and constantly.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    It is just huge resource waste....'

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  • GreenSage39GreenSage39 Member UncommonPosts: 144
    I just want to say damn remsleep you need a life or to fix your own. The game is a good timesink but sorry that it can't allow you to live your entire life in it. Yikes you crazy.
  • GreenSage39GreenSage39 Member UncommonPosts: 144
    edited December 2020
    I also wanted to point out how the stock market and investors are the real devils of our world these days. This impact or power control that investors have...they should all be burned. We'd be better off without them.
  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157
    How many sales with the refunds?
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    remsleep said:
    I just want to say damn remsleep you need a life or to fix your own. The game is a good timesink but sorry that it can't allow you to live your entire life in it. Yikes you crazy.

    I am crazy for thinking this is a 7/10 game that was released too early and it simply needed more development time to bring it to 9/10.

    Yes that is a totally insane idea.
    I dunno man, I've been playing a 7/10 game (FO76) exclusively for the past 15 months and well realize some games are never going to reach 9/10, and there's nothing wrong with that.

    Maybe it's time you find a new windmill to tilt at?



    Merry Christmas Kano.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    remsleep said:
    Kyleran said:
    remsleep said:
    I just want to say damn remsleep you need a life or to fix your own. The game is a good timesink but sorry that it can't allow you to live your entire life in it. Yikes you crazy.

    I am crazy for thinking this is a 7/10 game that was released too early and it simply needed more development time to bring it to 9/10.

    Yes that is a totally insane idea.
    I dunno man, I've been playing a 7/10 game (FO76) exclusively for the past 15 months and well realize some games are never going to reach 9/10, and there's nothing wrong with that.

    Maybe it's time you find a new windmill to tilt at?



    Merry Christmas Kano.

    There is nothing else out there til New World launches. 

    New world better have their shit together... I am ready
    Poor New World  ;)

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    I also wanted to point out how the stock market and investors are the real devils of our world these days. This impact or power control that investors have...they should all be burned. We'd be better off without them.
    You do realize that basically everyone with a 401K or equivalent retirement account is an investor, right?
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    lahnmir said:
    remsleep said:
    Kyleran said:
    remsleep said:
    I just want to say damn remsleep you need a life or to fix your own. The game is a good timesink but sorry that it can't allow you to live your entire life in it. Yikes you crazy.

    I am crazy for thinking this is a 7/10 game that was released too early and it simply needed more development time to bring it to 9/10.

    Yes that is a totally insane idea.
    I dunno man, I've been playing a 7/10 game (FO76) exclusively for the past 15 months and well realize some games are never going to reach 9/10, and there's nothing wrong with that.

    Maybe it's time you find a new windmill to tilt at?



    Merry Christmas Kano.

    There is nothing else out there til New World launches. 

    New world better have their shit together... I am ready
    Poor New World  ;)

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I know, right?

    Humans can't wait to crucify their Messiahs, gamers being no exception.



    Merry Christmas. :)


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    remsleep said:
    Kyleran said:
    lahnmir said:
    remsleep said:
    Kyleran said:
    remsleep said:
    I just want to say damn remsleep you need a life or to fix your own. The game is a good timesink but sorry that it can't allow you to live your entire life in it. Yikes you crazy.

    I am crazy for thinking this is a 7/10 game that was released too early and it simply needed more development time to bring it to 9/10.

    Yes that is a totally insane idea.
    I dunno man, I've been playing a 7/10 game (FO76) exclusively for the past 15 months and well realize some games are never going to reach 9/10, and there's nothing wrong with that.

    Maybe it's time you find a new windmill to tilt at?



    Merry Christmas Kano.

    There is nothing else out there til New World launches. 

    New world better have their shit together... I am ready
    Poor New World  ;)

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I know, right?

    Humans can't wait to crucify their Messiahs, gamers being no exception.

    Merry Christmas. :)



    Either don't feed lies to the media to hype something that doesn't even come close 

    Or actually deliver the product that matches what you promised.

    Otherwise some of us are going to say some stuff about it.

    Its that simple
    First world problems is all I'm saying and you certainly have made your point on where you stand.  Now it's time to



    There's better causes worthy of fighting for and higher hills to die on.

    Merry Christmas



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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,028
    Kyleran said:
    remsleep said:
    Kyleran said:
    lahnmir said:
    remsleep said:
    Kyleran said:
    remsleep said:
    I just want to say damn remsleep you need a life or to fix your own. The game is a good timesink but sorry that it can't allow you to live your entire life in it. Yikes you crazy.

    I am crazy for thinking this is a 7/10 game that was released too early and it simply needed more development time to bring it to 9/10.

    Yes that is a totally insane idea.
    I dunno man, I've been playing a 7/10 game (FO76) exclusively for the past 15 months and well realize some games are never going to reach 9/10, and there's nothing wrong with that.

    Maybe it's time you find a new windmill to tilt at?



    Merry Christmas Kano.

    There is nothing else out there til New World launches. 

    New world better have their shit together... I am ready
    Poor New World  ;)

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I know, right?

    Humans can't wait to crucify their Messiahs, gamers being no exception.

    Merry Christmas. :)



    Either don't feed lies to the media to hype something that doesn't even come close 

    Or actually deliver the product that matches what you promised.

    Otherwise some of us are going to say some stuff about it.

    Its that simple
    First world problems is all I'm saying and you certainly have made your point on where you stand.  Now it's time to



    There's better causes worthy of fighting for and higher hills to die on.

    Merry Christmas



    Eh, I disagree with this attitude in its entirety. People are capable of taking a stand on multiple/many issues, and if we ignored problems just because bigger problems exist, nothing would get done because there's always a bigger problem up to the point that the sun is going to fucking die one day.
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  • NexeusSNexeusS Member UncommonPosts: 88
    edited December 2020

    Aeander said:

    Here's hoping that they go back to the Witcher franchise. Maybe let us roll our own Witcher. Maybe let us play Ciri or Vesemir. There's plenty of stories to be told in that setting.



    Oh, they will mate. I actually saw on the tv (european TV - channel), an interview with
    Andrzej Sapkowski that he has agreed with CDPRJ and gave them the rights to continue the work on the Witcher Franchise, and if it's needed he's ready to write more stories about the Witcher Universe.

    Recently CDPRJ even hinted that next game will be The Witcher 4, but won't be focused on Geralt (tho Geralt will appear in the game). There's also a leak "so to speak", that there's a team already working on the Witcher 4, but that's about I know.

    Who knows, they might drop some trailer about The Witcher 4 (an early version of the trailer), as they did 7 years ago with Cyberpunk. This company loves to gives hints and what can we expect as the next game. But I am pretty sure this will be the Witcher 4.
  • SandmanjwSandmanjw Member RarePosts: 531

    First world problems is all I'm saying and you certainly have made your point on where you stand.  Now it's time to



    There's better causes worthy of fighting for and higher hills to die on.

    Merry Christmas



    Eh, I disagree with this attitude in its entirety. People are capable of taking a stand on multiple/many issues, and if we ignored problems just because bigger problems exist, nothing would get done because there's always a bigger problem up to the point that the sun is going to fucking die one day.
    Taking stand is fine, having a freaking crusade or obsession....not so much.

    A stand is you know, giving feedback and so on, not trying your hardest to absolutely destroy something in the process of it.  

    Bad for peoples state of mind to be so crazily fired up about any one game/company/ or thing. 

    Can people not see how nuts this is? No clue what this is really about, or peoples state of mind, but going off so hard over a game is so far passed healthy criticism into obsessive behavior. 

    When did it become ok to hope for people to not only lose their jobs/companies but destroy everything in a crusade? Awful lot of regular people that work for this company that some seem to forget about in their crusade to destroy and burn everything to the ground.

    SO much nonsense.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Aeander said:
    Kyleran said:
    remsleep said:
    Kyleran said:
    lahnmir said:
    remsleep said:
    Kyleran said:
    remsleep said:
    I just want to say damn remsleep you need a life or to fix your own. The game is a good timesink but sorry that it can't allow you to live your entire life in it. Yikes you crazy.

    I am crazy for thinking this is a 7/10 game that was released too early and it simply needed more development time to bring it to 9/10.

    Yes that is a totally insane idea.
    I dunno man, I've been playing a 7/10 game (FO76) exclusively for the past 15 months and well realize some games are never going to reach 9/10, and there's nothing wrong with that.

    Maybe it's time you find a new windmill to tilt at?



    Merry Christmas Kano.

    There is nothing else out there til New World launches. 

    New world better have their shit together... I am ready
    Poor New World  ;)

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I know, right?

    Humans can't wait to crucify their Messiahs, gamers being no exception.

    Merry Christmas. :)



    Either don't feed lies to the media to hype something that doesn't even come close 

    Or actually deliver the product that matches what you promised.

    Otherwise some of us are going to say some stuff about it.

    Its that simple
    First world problems is all I'm saying and you certainly have made your point on where you stand.  Now it's time to



    There's better causes worthy of fighting for and higher hills to die on.

    Merry Christmas



    Eh, I disagree with this attitude in its entirety. People are capable of taking a stand on multiple/many issues, and if we ignored problems just because bigger problems exist, nothing would get done because there's always a bigger problem up to the point that the sun is going to fucking die one day.
    I agree.
    I think drawing attention to issues that bother you in relation to a game like this is important. 
    The continued criticism will have an effect on CDPR one way or the other. 
    For fans of the company they should want to push them to uphold the standard they themselves have set with the Witcher series.
    Before launch many were anticipating a Witcher quality game (or better) and the start of a new IP with the same standards in place their previous series had.  
    Though many are happy with the product they got many were not. 
    If we are able to hold a company up as the example for how you create in this industry, we need to be able to call them out when they fail to reach that example. 

    Carry on Rem
     
    Expected better from you.



    Merry Christmas


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