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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Zultra said:
    Nilden said:
    Mendel said:
    Zultra said:
    Mendel said:
    Zultra said:
    LeFantome said:
    Zultra said:
    Nilden said:
    Zultra said:
    I just like how people think they have such indepth knowledge of SBS to ascertain they are criminals when really most in this forum just chat shit imo. 
    I mean it's not like they took 8 million dollars, delivered nothing, and have a class action lawsuit against them...

    Let me do a more concrete test...

    Is SBS a bunch of criminals?

    *shake shake*

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    I rest my case.


    Lawsuit that is most likely dead in the water against SBS and Esolla. 
    Do you have any link? Anything to prove that, because so far we do have the paperwork to prove the lawsuit is still very active. Maybe if you call the lawers and get a email from them or something, maybe we would beleive you. Until then, I don't think you know anything about this case.

    I have the same as you, but I believe the lawsuit will not go anwhere, you guys might like to circlejerk about the dream of sending Caspian to jail or some such stuff but in reality it'll amount to zilch. 

    You guys bought into a crowdfund/KS there's always a risk of it falling or the like, sueing because of that is laughable imo. 

    Failure is one thing; failure by choice or by design or by misrepresentation is another thing entirely.  The Producers, anyone?




    You would have to prove that Caspian knowingly designed to fail... 

    I would hope that is one goal of the ongoing lawsuit.



    It was all a lie right from the start. There was no way 900k from kickstarter was going to get them the game they described in the timeframe they promised.

    They misrepresented what they could make, took 8 million dollars in total over 4 years, when they had to know there was no way they could deliver and even had a sale 2 weeks before he shut down the company then walked it back.

    The entire project is misrepresentation, lies, and fraud. Blind people could see this for what it is. The only people who can't are delusional. 

    It's just sad that someone would defend Soulbound for ripping all these people off.

    You would have to prove that it was a scam or that there was intentions to defraud customers. 
    They lied, took millions of dollars and delivered nothing.

    What they did is the literal definition of a scam.

    How about you prove that it isn't a scam.
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  • ZultraZultra Member UncommonPosts: 385
    Nilden said:
    Zultra said:
    Nilden said:
    Mendel said:
    Zultra said:
    Mendel said:
    Zultra said:
    LeFantome said:
    Zultra said:
    Nilden said:
    Zultra said:
    I just like how people think they have such indepth knowledge of SBS to ascertain they are criminals when really most in this forum just chat shit imo. 
    I mean it's not like they took 8 million dollars, delivered nothing, and have a class action lawsuit against them...

    Let me do a more concrete test...

    Is SBS a bunch of criminals?

    *shake shake*

    Intro to Magic 8-Ball  Learn how to build apps Magic 8-Ball


    I rest my case.


    Lawsuit that is most likely dead in the water against SBS and Esolla. 
    Do you have any link? Anything to prove that, because so far we do have the paperwork to prove the lawsuit is still very active. Maybe if you call the lawers and get a email from them or something, maybe we would beleive you. Until then, I don't think you know anything about this case.

    I have the same as you, but I believe the lawsuit will not go anwhere, you guys might like to circlejerk about the dream of sending Caspian to jail or some such stuff but in reality it'll amount to zilch. 

    You guys bought into a crowdfund/KS there's always a risk of it falling or the like, sueing because of that is laughable imo. 

    Failure is one thing; failure by choice or by design or by misrepresentation is another thing entirely.  The Producers, anyone?




    You would have to prove that Caspian knowingly designed to fail... 

    I would hope that is one goal of the ongoing lawsuit.



    It was all a lie right from the start. There was no way 900k from kickstarter was going to get them the game they described in the timeframe they promised.

    They misrepresented what they could make, took 8 million dollars in total over 4 years, when they had to know there was no way they could deliver and even had a sale 2 weeks before he shut down the company then walked it back.

    The entire project is misrepresentation, lies, and fraud. Blind people could see this for what it is. The only people who can't are delusional. 

    It's just sad that someone would defend Soulbound for ripping all these people off.

    You would have to prove that it was a scam or that there was intentions to defraud customers. 
    They lied, took millions of dollars and delivered nothing.

    What they did is the literal definition of a scam.

    How about you prove that it isn't a scam.

    That isn't how it works, you have to prove that it is a scam.  That's how courts work, the person suing have to prove there case and not the defending to prove the negative. 
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    edited April 2021
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund
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  • ZultraZultra Member UncommonPosts: 385
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,164
    no
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    I don't see any reason why there should not be a grace period, it is just the length of time you could reasonably expect that to extend. And we are way, way past that.
    Gdemami
  • ZultraZultra Member UncommonPosts: 385
    Scot said:
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    I don't see any reason why there should not be a grace period, it is just the length of time you could reasonably expect that to extend. And we are way, way past that.

    Yeah, imo if you've put money in say 2014 and then expect a refund in 2021 that seems a big stretch. 
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  • DafAtRandomDafAtRandom Member UncommonPosts: 127
    Zultra said:
    Scot said:
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    I don't see any reason why there should not be a grace period, it is just the length of time you could reasonably expect that to extend. And we are way, way past that.

    Yeah, imo if you've put money in say 2014 and then expect a refund in 2021 that seems a big stretch. 

    Yeah, imo if you've put money in say 2014 and then expect a refund in 2021, not only should you get it, but you should also probably get extra compensation for emotional distress and damages for being lied to for all those years.
    I mean, since neither you or I are a lawyer, y'know ?


    Gdemami
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Zultra said:
    Scot said:
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    I don't see any reason why there should not be a grace period, it is just the length of time you could reasonably expect that to extend. And we are way, way past that.

    Yeah, imo if you've put money in say 2014 and then expect a refund in 2021 that seems a big stretch. 
    Well, unfortunately for you, the Xsolla language did not refer to your opinion on refunds.  It simply stated that refunds could be had until the game/item was delivered. Caspien thought he was covered with his No Refunds language but he fucked himself when his TOS said that the TOS of 3rd party providers would supersede his own. 
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  • ZultraZultra Member UncommonPosts: 385
    Zultra said:
    Scot said:
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    I don't see any reason why there should not be a grace period, it is just the length of time you could reasonably expect that to extend. And we are way, way past that.

    Yeah, imo if you've put money in say 2014 and then expect a refund in 2021 that seems a big stretch. 
    Well, unfortunately for you, the Xsolla language did not refer to your opinion on refunds.  It simply stated that refunds could be had until the game/item was delivered. Caspien thought he was covered with his No Refunds language but he fucked himself when his TOS said that the TOS of 3rd party providers would supersede his own. 

    We shall see how this failure of a lawsuit goes. 
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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Zultra said:
    Nilden said:
    Zultra said:
    Nilden said:
    Mendel said:
    Zultra said:
    Mendel said:
    Zultra said:
    LeFantome said:
    Zultra said:
    Nilden said:
    Zultra said:
    I just like how people think they have such indepth knowledge of SBS to ascertain they are criminals when really most in this forum just chat shit imo. 
    I mean it's not like they took 8 million dollars, delivered nothing, and have a class action lawsuit against them...

    Let me do a more concrete test...

    Is SBS a bunch of criminals?

    *shake shake*

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    I rest my case.


    Lawsuit that is most likely dead in the water against SBS and Esolla. 
    Do you have any link? Anything to prove that, because so far we do have the paperwork to prove the lawsuit is still very active. Maybe if you call the lawers and get a email from them or something, maybe we would beleive you. Until then, I don't think you know anything about this case.

    I have the same as you, but I believe the lawsuit will not go anwhere, you guys might like to circlejerk about the dream of sending Caspian to jail or some such stuff but in reality it'll amount to zilch. 

    You guys bought into a crowdfund/KS there's always a risk of it falling or the like, sueing because of that is laughable imo. 

    Failure is one thing; failure by choice or by design or by misrepresentation is another thing entirely.  The Producers, anyone?




    You would have to prove that Caspian knowingly designed to fail... 

    I would hope that is one goal of the ongoing lawsuit.



    It was all a lie right from the start. There was no way 900k from kickstarter was going to get them the game they described in the timeframe they promised.

    They misrepresented what they could make, took 8 million dollars in total over 4 years, when they had to know there was no way they could deliver and even had a sale 2 weeks before he shut down the company then walked it back.

    The entire project is misrepresentation, lies, and fraud. Blind people could see this for what it is. The only people who can't are delusional. 

    It's just sad that someone would defend Soulbound for ripping all these people off.

    You would have to prove that it was a scam or that there was intentions to defraud customers. 
    They lied, took millions of dollars and delivered nothing.

    What they did is the literal definition of a scam.

    How about you prove that it isn't a scam.

    That isn't how it works, you have to prove that it is a scam.  That's how courts work, the person suing have to prove there case and not the defending to prove the negative. 
    I just did. They lied, took millions of dollars and delivered nothing.

    How is that not a scam?

    Oh that not how it works huh? So you can't prove it's not a scam, because it obviously is. I'm not suing anyone, I'm not a lawyer or judge, I'm just on a forum asking you to prove how this is not a scam when it clearly is the literal definition of one.

    Explain how this is not a scam. Explain how this is legit.

    Did you get anything for the money you put it? No? Then they took it. Lied and you got nothing. 

    Yeah totally not a scam.

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  • Big.Daddy.SamediBig.Daddy.Samedi Member UncommonPosts: 411
    werent they doing a mud at first as well? Or a voxel game

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    werent they doing a mud at first as well? Or a voxel game
    Yes to both and nothing of worth ever came out of any of their efforts.


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Torval said:
    Zultra said:
    Zultra said:
    Scot said:
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    I don't see any reason why there should not be a grace period, it is just the length of time you could reasonably expect that to extend. And we are way, way past that.

    Yeah, imo if you've put money in say 2014 and then expect a refund in 2021 that seems a big stretch. 
    Well, unfortunately for you, the Xsolla language did not refer to your opinion on refunds.  It simply stated that refunds could be had until the game/item was delivered. Caspien thought he was covered with his No Refunds language but he fucked himself when his TOS said that the TOS of 3rd party providers would supersede his own. 

    We shall see how this failure of a lawsuit goes. 

    Are you connected with SBS in any way? Have you been gifted or granted anything from Walsh or SBS? Do you have a vested interest in SBS in any way?
    He spent a lot of money, he's at the Duke level at least, there was a post on reddit recently where he listed what he had, like 37 sparks or something, and a bunch of other stuff but it's since been removed, probably considered as TMI.


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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    edited April 2021
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    Zultra said:
    Zultra said:
    Scot said:
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    I don't see any reason why there should not be a grace period, it is just the length of time you could reasonably expect that to extend. And we are way, way past that.

    Yeah, imo if you've put money in say 2014 and then expect a refund in 2021 that seems a big stretch. 
    Well, unfortunately for you, the Xsolla language did not refer to your opinion on refunds.  It simply stated that refunds could be had until the game/item was delivered. Caspien thought he was covered with his No Refunds language but he fucked himself when his TOS said that the TOS of 3rd party providers would supersede his own. 

    We shall see how this failure of a lawsuit goes. 

    Are you connected with SBS in any way? Have you been gifted or granted anything from Walsh or SBS? Do you have a vested interest in SBS in any way?
    He spent a lot of money, he's at the Duke level at least, there was a post on reddit recently where he listed what he had, like 37 sparks or something, and a bunch of other stuff but it's since been removed, probably considered as TMI.


    He "won" the title by getting people to purchase and give him tokens for the "Free Kingdom of Elyria" contest.

    https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/23265/The-Free-Kingdom-of-Elyria-Comes-to-an-End

    That probably provides some color to why his take on this new "Kingdoms of Elyria" game differs from most other backers and followers.


    Post edited by Slapshot1188 on
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    He "won" the title by getting people to purchase and give him tokens for the "Free Kingdom of Elyria" contest.

    https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/23265/The-Free-Kingdom-of-Elyria-Comes-to-an-End

    That probably provides some color to why his take on this new "Kingdoms of Elyria" game differs from most other backers and followers.

    So basically a long time Caspian enabler... makes sense.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    edited April 2021
    Iselin said:
    He "won" the title by getting people to purchase and give him tokens for the "Free Kingdom of Elyria" contest.

    https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/23265/The-Free-Kingdom-of-Elyria-Comes-to-an-End

    That probably provides some color to why his take on this new "Kingdoms of Elyria" game differs from most other backers and followers.

    So basically a long time Caspian enabler... makes sense.
    To be fair guys, there must be Dukes backing the lawsuit, I don't think putting money in means you are going to necessarily hold a pro or anti stance here. We could as easily say that putting a lot of money in would have you ranting against Walsh on here and elsewhere.

    But I am not sure how you could see the lawsuit as a joke, Walsh from his actions clearly takes it very seriously even if it is aimed at Xsolla.
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  • ZultraZultra Member UncommonPosts: 385
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    Zultra said:
    Zultra said:
    Scot said:
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    I don't see any reason why there should not be a grace period, it is just the length of time you could reasonably expect that to extend. And we are way, way past that.

    Yeah, imo if you've put money in say 2014 and then expect a refund in 2021 that seems a big stretch. 
    Well, unfortunately for you, the Xsolla language did not refer to your opinion on refunds.  It simply stated that refunds could be had until the game/item was delivered. Caspien thought he was covered with his No Refunds language but he fucked himself when his TOS said that the TOS of 3rd party providers would supersede his own. 

    We shall see how this failure of a lawsuit goes. 

    Are you connected with SBS in any way? Have you been gifted or granted anything from Walsh or SBS? Do you have a vested interest in SBS in any way?
    He spent a lot of money, he's at the Duke level at least, there was a post on reddit recently where he listed what he had, like 37 sparks or something, and a bunch of other stuff but it's since been removed, probably considered as TMI.



    That post hasn't been removed. 
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Zultra said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    Zultra said:
    Zultra said:
    Scot said:
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    I don't see any reason why there should not be a grace period, it is just the length of time you could reasonably expect that to extend. And we are way, way past that.

    Yeah, imo if you've put money in say 2014 and then expect a refund in 2021 that seems a big stretch. 
    Well, unfortunately for you, the Xsolla language did not refer to your opinion on refunds.  It simply stated that refunds could be had until the game/item was delivered. Caspien thought he was covered with his No Refunds language but he fucked himself when his TOS said that the TOS of 3rd party providers would supersede his own. 

    We shall see how this failure of a lawsuit goes. 

    Are you connected with SBS in any way? Have you been gifted or granted anything from Walsh or SBS? Do you have a vested interest in SBS in any way?
    He spent a lot of money, he's at the Duke level at least, there was a post on reddit recently where he listed what he had, like 37 sparks or something, and a bunch of other stuff but it's since been removed, probably considered as TMI.



    That post hasn't been removed. 
    Hmm, perhaps not easily visible because of reddits annoying habit / setting of rolling up down voted threads.

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  • ZultraZultra Member UncommonPosts: 385
    Kyleran said:
    Zultra said:
    Kyleran said:
    Torval said:
    Zultra said:
    Zultra said:
    Scot said:
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    Zultra said:
    kitarad said:
    I think the suit only asks for their money back from Xsolla and Soulbound. It is not about fraud and proving that though. There is a contractual obligation on the part of Xsolla to give refunds if the game is not delivered.

    All persons in the world who purchased downloadable content for Chronicles of Elyria from Soulbound Studios and Xsolla within the last four (4) years, requested a refund where no game content had been delivered, and did not receive a refund

    Isn't there a grace/cut off period though 
    I don't see any reason why there should not be a grace period, it is just the length of time you could reasonably expect that to extend. And we are way, way past that.

    Yeah, imo if you've put money in say 2014 and then expect a refund in 2021 that seems a big stretch. 
    Well, unfortunately for you, the Xsolla language did not refer to your opinion on refunds.  It simply stated that refunds could be had until the game/item was delivered. Caspien thought he was covered with his No Refunds language but he fucked himself when his TOS said that the TOS of 3rd party providers would supersede his own. 

    We shall see how this failure of a lawsuit goes. 

    Are you connected with SBS in any way? Have you been gifted or granted anything from Walsh or SBS? Do you have a vested interest in SBS in any way?
    He spent a lot of money, he's at the Duke level at least, there was a post on reddit recently where he listed what he had, like 37 sparks or something, and a bunch of other stuff but it's since been removed, probably considered as TMI.



    That post hasn't been removed. 
    Hmm, perhaps not easily visible because of reddits annoying habit / setting of rolling up down voted threads.

    Yeah true, also it's under a deleted post, some guy asked me to private bank details to prove that I have those things, so I instantly reported him. 
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited April 2021
    I dunno guys, can't see branding folks as paid shills just because they received free stuff in the past, though I can agree they probably are more positive than the folks who laid down ten or twenty grand.

    Likely every King spent some amount of their own cash just to reach that tier or to get their kingdom off to a good start during the planned three month headstart period.

    Besides, Jeremy is too broke to pay off anyone these days.

    ;)


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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Kyleran said:
    I dunno guys, can't see branding folks as paid shills just because they received free stuff in the past, though I can agree they probably are more positive than the folks who laid down ten or twenty grand.

    Likely every King spent some amount of their own cash just to reach that tier or to get their kingdom off to a good start during the planned three month headstart period.

    Besides, Jeremy is too broke to pay off anyone these days.

    ;)


    Sure.   I just see it along the lines of:  Guy who paid $10,000 real life money and got nothing is going to have a different take on this than a Guy who "won" a Duke account.


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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Kyleran said:
    I dunno guys, can't see branding folks as paid shills just because they received free stuff in the past, though I can agree they probably are more positive than the folks who laid down ten or twenty grand.

    Likely every King spent some amount of their own cash just to reach that tier or to get their kingdom off to a good start during the planned three month headstart period.

    Besides, Jeremy is too broke to pay off anyone these days.

    ;)


    Sure.   I just see it along the lines of:  Guy who paid $10,000 real life money and got nothing is going to have a different take on this than a Guy who "won" a Duke account.



    In sciences, that would be identified as a bias, something that influences one's thinking on a subject.  In this particular case, a $10,000 bias.



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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,586
    Hey tomorrow happens to be the end of May. Any word on whether Caspien is releasing his previously delayed and dramatically feature reduced "Alpha" for this thing tomorrow? Or is he just going to miss again?

    I don't think we have heard from him since his hard hitting update on "Animal AI" 3 weeks ago...

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited May 2021
    Looks like another miss so far.

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