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It's been a little over a month since Robin first stepped through the Dark Portal and took her first steps into The Burning Crusade Classic. While there have been some changes, for the most part everything is as she remembered. But how does it stack up in 2021? Here is our full review of the Classic Expansion experience.
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Gaming community: IRONFIST
New World: Lilith - US East
WoW Guild: IRONFIST <Burning Legion> Alliance(We transferred to Illidan)
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I tried to get into BCC, again, as some of our core members are hooked af and i dunno, no click for me still, i think i love SL way too much. Korthia OMG what an incredible active zone! The story starting to come into full fruition. Chef's Kiss!
Since BCC fractured our raid team i rolled a couple new alts to clear my head and yeah, i love leveling so much.
atm the rest of us still wanting to raid joined a Mythic team while retaining our core guild for the time being, this guild we join on raid nights is a big one compared to the tight aotc team we are in.
tbh it's a little less stressful i find, which is good thing, a tight 10 man there is so much pressure for you to always be 120% no mistakes, anyway we already downed Sylvanas on normal, 7/10 Heroic, 2/10 Mythic.
Oh Did i mention Painsmith Raznal is the most over tuned boss fight of all time, my gawd i love HARD AF CONTENT!!!
Just gonna link this here:
https://www.mmorpg.com/reviews/world-of-warcraft-the-burning-crusade-review-2000115578
Your site gave it a 7.0 when it first launched - your nostalgia completely blinded you on this one. I'm not usually picky about reviews but pandering to the WoW crowd is some of the most ridiculous stuff I've seen in the MMORPG community. BC Classic is okay. JUST okay - exactly like when it first launched.
Alternatively, I'd argue 7.0 was way too low of a score when it launched the first time around. But you know, different people have different opinions and obviously I didn't review it here when it first launched.
Loved these two quotes from the article:
Umm... yup, It kept on competing pretty damn well
And:
LMAO... good times when GW1, Eve and especially Two Worlds are mentioned as the potential WoW killers.
Hindsight is 20/20 but that old review, done by someone who seemed to be burnt out on WOW, is hilarious in its predictions of where the game was going relative to what else was around the corner.
In fact, It kept right on growing for several years after that review reaching its peak 4+ years later while clone after clone tried to dethrone it as alpha MMO with nothing coming even remotely close to doing so.
I'm not even much of fan only going back to it for 3 or 4 month visits every now and then and having played practically ever single major MMO pre and post WoW but I recognize what it did, how it did it and how well it did it in the context of all other MMOs.
7 for TBC back then was almost forced edginess for clicks and notoriety. Even sites known for low balling review scores like Gamespot, gave it a 9.2 back in the day:
https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/world-of-warcraft-the-burning-crusade-review/1900-6165433/
And the aggregate Metacritic review score in 2007 was 91 with user score of 81.
https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/world-of-warcraft-the-burning-crusade
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i dunno maybe it will get better when they add more stuff, but as of now its very meh to me.
Stuff I never really noticed the first go round on the Server I played on. Of course launch night on my Classic TBC was really just the Mages or groups with Mages rushing to Slave Pens to exploit pathing... I remember games that actually banned people for that.
So "chat" is mostly people trying to sell SP Boosts or tanks willing to tank for you for a Price which various between Heroic Content Price and Normal (lol wtf). So I just watch the average people that don't have a set 5 man get bitter and chat get toxic because of it. Then I log out and wait for the next day for the earlier hours when it's more like the first go round or I turn chat off because my group wants to do something that night.
I don't see the TBC Classic version being up as long as Classic. In my opinion if they don't push the next "Classic Expansion" by the end of next year subs will drop too far. Or they will at least announce it prior to whatever share holder call so they can announce higher sub numbers etc *edit* What I really meant to say here is to at least announce it by the end of THIS year not next year. Yes that is stpuidly fast but even my non elite server people are decked out and the various phases on the same small map really just isn't going to hold the sub numbers in my opinion
The Classic version of TBC just seems too small to hold long as opposed to the live launch where you didn't really have many options or expectations.
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The small raid team i did CN with is fractured as 4 players out of the core 10 are hooked on bcc, one of Robin's earlier articles got me all pumped up about bcc and dove in and as i earlier predicted i felt way to much... meh.
Fast forward to the last month raid team members be calling for us to join them for bcc, so again i tried to make it click but once again.. meh, i dunno just can't do it. Which has nothing to do with the store but i've thought about it and how would that impact me if i was all on board for BCC.
I wonder as i dove in hard for classic, and yeah omg what an amazing time, but thing there is i was playing EQ2 when wow launched, i was there wow's launch day and yeah went back to EQ2 until it literally destroyed it's own identity, left EQ2 and went hard in late TBC (2008ish) and for all of Wrath.
And, that is why i had a strong feeling bcc and wrath classic will do nothing for me, as oddly enough after my run in classic it was so nice to get back to retail with modern improvements, gave me a whole new appreciation about them.
SO i'll speculate but if anything i'd be more than ok with boosts, and what not, however then again, classic would not have been so much fun if they had added store anything as that is what i was after the real deal of what i missed out on so many years ago.
The remaining 6 members who still want to raid got on a mythic team (someone knows someone), there's like 30 legendary off the charts players, and us 6 lmao, (put it this way i "thought" we were pretty good raiders) they walked us through normal like literally feels like, 7/10 heroic and tonight apparently we are guaranteed the first 2 mythic bosses, and that's it for our mooching, as they will be focusing for mythic prog. We'll figure something out, but i almost wish bcc clicked becasue...
In all this confusion i rolled some alts and yeah i forgot just how much i love leveling, so i should love bcc, and then wrath but i dunno played it so much back then but if they brought in modern conveniences i really, truly hate to say this, but that might make it different enough to be a more exciting prospect to me?
The main oversight is that classic was born in the golden era of mmorpg's, it feels a trillion times different than bc, wrath, it is, it's own game totally different feel. It was so much harder than bc, wrath, and BC is when things started to get easier.
Let's think about why BC was so much gentler than vanilla, competition. wtf you may be asking what competition? the competition for casual players.
So what wow did and why i hated on it for a better part of decade was that it ruined good quality worlds, where playing with other was the main focal point, adventure with friends. What vanilla did was open the door to casuals, who want it now. So the competition became fierce, EQ2 turned itself in to a kindergarten game, any and every other mmorpg coming out was easier than the one before.
The competition to wow was intense, everybody gunning for a slice of wow pie, SO, they had no choice but to continually make the game easier and easier, BC = Easier, Wrath = Even Easier, had they stayed hard af, well no rocket science required to figure that one out.
Wow introduced a whole new genre to casual peeps, which was an awakening to dev studios, make easy af game, people give you truck loads of money, swtor, eso, ffxiv look at them all they are all single player games with other people around, where is the mmorpg heart? Then you have wow unbelievably making harder content? wtf right, why, i feel casual eventually gets boring af, maybe someone who logs in once or twice a week, might not but eventually will leave anyway and hopefully, maybe this is a new future trend, harder content with modern conveniences. Engaging content.
I am off to try and find something else to play
Different reviewer. Just saying.
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