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World of Warcraft Shadowlands 9.1.5 PTR Bringing Community Requested Features | MMORPG.com

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edited August 2021 in News & Features Discussion

imageWorld of Warcraft Shadowlands 9.1.5 PTR Bringing Community Requested Features | MMORPG.com

World of Warcraft Shadowlands 9.1.5 is going into PTR next week and brings with it some long-requested community features.

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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,674
    edited August 2021
    I do not like being negative, but a lot of these things should've been implemented way earlier. I do not see many people coming back for just this. Hopefully 9.2 has a good reception though.
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  • DhampirDhampir Member UncommonPosts: 188
    A little to late, to many other games out now that is worth my time.
    lordsmok
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  • IceAgeIceAge Member EpicPosts: 3,200
    edited August 2021
    Damn!

    That News is something I rarely read on Blizzard games in the past..few years ( at least ).

    Is straight to the point and is very plausible. I hope that the latest "News" regarding Blizzard, has made them focus a lot more on what players want/asks and less about what X or Y Director, Head, etc, things is better for the community, aka arrogance.

    Lots and lots and lots of good feedback has been given since BfA Beta, but they weren't listening. Lots and lots and lots of good feedback has been given since Shadowlands Beta, but they weren't listening.

    Interviews with Ion were like "Hey dude, people are not happy with the current state of the game, so ..what's up?". And Ion goes like "Yes, Jaina is a wonderful leader". Reporter then adds "...we know, but there are serious problems regarding the BfA ( or Shadowlands ) systems. How do you plan to make them better?". And then Ion is like "We have great plans for Sylvana and we cannot wait to show them to you!!".

    /facepalm

    PS: I really hope Ion will be fired or replaced from WoW Director position which he's currently holding. He has done a lot of bad things to the WoW. I think 2 (the worst) expansions is enough.

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273

    Nyctelios said:

    Did they redo past 3 expansions worth of lore?

    Then nothing good. Thanks, but no thanks.

    "I will never serve" sure sure syl syl.



    I think the fact the expansions are laid out in gameplay terms and the "writing team" if they even really exist as a department have to just join the dots. It has not been story led for years, but that is becoming the increasing norm in MMO land.
  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,674

    Nyctelios said:


    Scot said:



    Nyctelios said:


    Did they redo past 3 expansions worth of lore?

    Then nothing good. Thanks, but no thanks.

    "I will never serve" sure sure syl syl.






    I think the fact the expansions are laid out in gameplay terms and the "writing team" if they even really exist as a department have to just join the dots. It has not been story led for years, but that is becoming the increasing norm in MMO land.


    FF14 is completely led by story alone. With a writting team which won awards.



    I do like that raids are mostly divorced from the story in FF14. They're more of a 'side-quest' which you can entirely skip if all you want to do is follow the main story. It feels like WoW tying the story with the raid is just a way for them to 'cut corners' as it were.
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  • PalebanePalebane Member RarePosts: 4,011
    edited August 2021
    change the name of the hero currently known as McCree to something that better represents what Overwatch stands for.
    Name McLastname
    Scot

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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,674

    Nyctelios said:


    Dattelis said:



    Nyctelios said:




    Scot said:





    Nyctelios said:



    Did they redo past 3 expansions worth of lore?

    Then nothing good. Thanks, but no thanks.

    "I will never serve" sure sure syl syl.









    I think the fact the expansions are laid out in gameplay terms and the "writing team" if they even really exist as a department have to just join the dots. It has not been story led for years, but that is becoming the increasing norm in MMO land.




    FF14 is completely led by story alone. With a writting team which won awards.






    I do like that raids are mostly divorced from the story in FF14. They're more of a 'side-quest' which you can entirely skip if all you want to do is follow the main story. It feels like WoW tying the story with the raid is just a way for them to 'cut corners' as it were.


    But that's because raids are post endgame content and in between patches.

    They are a self contained story. But they do have a story tied to FF14 plot.

    It is just.... well executed. 



    Agreed on the better executed part. There's also times in WoW where they gate story progress behind difficulty for a while, which I do not agree with. Maybe they can try a more self-contained approach like FF14 in 10.0.
  • NexeusSNexeusS Member UncommonPosts: 88
    edited August 2021
    You guys forget one thing... if you look up on youtube, there's recently made videos about bots swarming retail and tbc (more than the usual bots), and Blizzard doesn't give a rat about it. TBC is especially bad in terms of bots. These bots are ruining not the just the experience of playing, but AH iconomy as well.

    If the company really want to improve themselves with everything they do, they should start with the bots first and then some. You can't honestly expect to add stuff like this and completely ignore all these bots. Ain't gonna work. Blizzard is doomed to fail, and this time there's no coming back.

    But no, let's pretend we give something to the ppl and everything will be "ok". Heh, typical greedy company and pp still praise them basically for nothing, but I guess WoW's syndrome is something that you can't figh on.

    Every MMO has bots, including FFXIV but I've seen at first hand how fast they've been banned in FFXIV, and you still have, but it's nothing like in WoW, it's disgusting even.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Nyctelios said:
    NexeusS said:
    You guys forget one thing... if you look up on youtube, there's recently made videos about bots swarming retail and tbc (more than the usual bots), and Blizzard doesn't give a rat about it. TBC is especially bad in terms of bots. These bots are ruining not the just the experience of playing, but AH iconomy as well.

    If the company really want to improve themselves with everything they do, they should start with the bots first and then some. You can't honestly expect to add stuff like this and completely ignore all these bots. Ain't gonna work. Blizzard is doomed to fail, and this time there's no coming back.

    But no, let's pretend we give something to the ppl and everything will be "ok". Heh, typical greedy company and pp still praise them basically for nothing, but I guess WoW's syndrome is something that you can't figh on.

    Every MMO has bots, including FFXIV but I've seen at first hand how fast they've been banned in FFXIV, and you still have, but it's nothing like in WoW, it's disgusting even.
    Why would the company stop the bots if the RMT and the bot themselves on retail are fueled by WoW tokens?

    You don't get it, do you?

    When it was RMT for RMT sake, it was a bad thing. Now it is funneled through official means Blizz gets a cut.
    The WOW tokens have not stopped private RMT although I'm sure it has slowed it down. It's still a thing.
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  • sipusipu Member UncommonPosts: 200
    Pure waste of time when considering current state of the game. Devs needs deeply rethink what went wrong and how to fix it in the upcoming expansion, else the game is dead.
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050
    NexeusS said:
    You guys forget one thing... if you look up on youtube, there's recently made videos about bots swarming retail and tbc (more than the usual bots), and Blizzard doesn't give a rat about it. TBC is especially bad in terms of bots. These bots are ruining not the just the experience of playing, but AH iconomy as well.

    If the company really want to improve themselves with everything they do, they should start with the bots first and then some. You can't honestly expect to add stuff like this and completely ignore all these bots. Ain't gonna work. Blizzard is doomed to fail, and this time there's no coming back.

    But no, let's pretend we give something to the ppl and everything will be "ok". Heh, typical greedy company and pp still praise them basically for nothing, but I guess WoW's syndrome is something that you can't figh on.

    Every MMO has bots, including FFXIV but I've seen at first hand how fast they've been banned in FFXIV, and you still have, but it's nothing like in WoW, it's disgusting even.
    Well the videos explain why blizzard doesn't care.  They bring them money.  Activision forced Blizzard to get rid of QA and GMs as they hurt the bottom line.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    edited August 2021
    Nyctelios said:
    Iselin said:
    Nyctelios said:
    NexeusS said:
    You guys forget one thing... if you look up on youtube, there's recently made videos about bots swarming retail and tbc (more than the usual bots), and Blizzard doesn't give a rat about it. TBC is especially bad in terms of bots. These bots are ruining not the just the experience of playing, but AH iconomy as well.

    If the company really want to improve themselves with everything they do, they should start with the bots first and then some. You can't honestly expect to add stuff like this and completely ignore all these bots. Ain't gonna work. Blizzard is doomed to fail, and this time there's no coming back.

    But no, let's pretend we give something to the ppl and everything will be "ok". Heh, typical greedy company and pp still praise them basically for nothing, but I guess WoW's syndrome is something that you can't figh on.

    Every MMO has bots, including FFXIV but I've seen at first hand how fast they've been banned in FFXIV, and you still have, but it's nothing like in WoW, it's disgusting even.
    Why would the company stop the bots if the RMT and the bot themselves on retail are fueled by WoW tokens?

    You don't get it, do you?

    When it was RMT for RMT sake, it was a bad thing. Now it is funneled through official means Blizz gets a cut.
    The WOW tokens have not stopped private RMT although I'm sure it has slowed it down. It's still a thing.
    No no no... you got it wrong.

    WoW tokens LEGITIMIZE RMT. It's not a tool to stop... its a step so blizz takes a cut.

    ALL the top players/streamers who left WoW mentioned it. There is a 2hour long video from Bellular talking about PvE and PvP impact of RMT funneled through WoW tokens.

    It's really messed up.

    The fact this exists in such a time honoured MMORPG saddened me, I just don't see any level to which gaming will not go to rake more money in. I guess this practice is becoming the norm now, as these abusive practices always spread across the genre.  :/
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    edited August 2021
    Scot said:
    Nyctelios said:
    Iselin said:
    Nyctelios said:
    NexeusS said:
    You guys forget one thing... if you look up on youtube, there's recently made videos about bots swarming retail and tbc (more than the usual bots), and Blizzard doesn't give a rat about it. TBC is especially bad in terms of bots. These bots are ruining not the just the experience of playing, but AH iconomy as well.

    If the company really want to improve themselves with everything they do, they should start with the bots first and then some. You can't honestly expect to add stuff like this and completely ignore all these bots. Ain't gonna work. Blizzard is doomed to fail, and this time there's no coming back.

    But no, let's pretend we give something to the ppl and everything will be "ok". Heh, typical greedy company and pp still praise them basically for nothing, but I guess WoW's syndrome is something that you can't figh on.

    Every MMO has bots, including FFXIV but I've seen at first hand how fast they've been banned in FFXIV, and you still have, but it's nothing like in WoW, it's disgusting even.
    Why would the company stop the bots if the RMT and the bot themselves on retail are fueled by WoW tokens?

    You don't get it, do you?

    When it was RMT for RMT sake, it was a bad thing. Now it is funneled through official means Blizz gets a cut.
    The WOW tokens have not stopped private RMT although I'm sure it has slowed it down. It's still a thing.
    No no no... you got it wrong.

    WoW tokens LEGITIMIZE RMT. It's not a tool to stop... its a step so blizz takes a cut.

    ALL the top players/streamers who left WoW mentioned it. There is a 2hour long video from Bellular talking about PvE and PvP impact of RMT funneled through WoW tokens.

    It's really messed up.

    The fact this exists in such a time honoured MMORPG saddened me, I just don't see any level to which gaming will not go to rake more money in. I guess this practice is becoming the norm now, as these abusive practices always spread across the genre.  :/
    If you're going to be saddened about something, be saddened that a large enough portion of the player base wants to buy gold that a whole industry sprouted up to meet their demand.

    It doesn't matter whether they buy it from a shady site or Blizzard except that by Blizzard selling it legit, it encourages more players to do it who might have been put off by the TOS violation or simply don't trust shady transactions with gold sellers.

    The actual sad thing is that players want to buy gold in the first place so they can be just as wealthy as players who played the game cleverly to amass their gold.

    What Blizzard is actually doing is legitimizing posers using their wallet to pass for clever players,
    Scot
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    edited August 2021
    Iselin said:
    Scot said:
    Nyctelios said:
    Iselin said:
    Nyctelios said:
    NexeusS said:
    You guys forget one thing... if you look up on youtube, there's recently made videos about bots swarming retail and tbc (more than the usual bots), and Blizzard doesn't give a rat about it. TBC is especially bad in terms of bots. These bots are ruining not the just the experience of playing, but AH iconomy as well.

    If the company really want to improve themselves with everything they do, they should start with the bots first and then some. You can't honestly expect to add stuff like this and completely ignore all these bots. Ain't gonna work. Blizzard is doomed to fail, and this time there's no coming back.

    But no, let's pretend we give something to the ppl and everything will be "ok". Heh, typical greedy company and pp still praise them basically for nothing, but I guess WoW's syndrome is something that you can't figh on.

    Every MMO has bots, including FFXIV but I've seen at first hand how fast they've been banned in FFXIV, and you still have, but it's nothing like in WoW, it's disgusting even.
    Why would the company stop the bots if the RMT and the bot themselves on retail are fueled by WoW tokens?

    You don't get it, do you?

    When it was RMT for RMT sake, it was a bad thing. Now it is funneled through official means Blizz gets a cut.
    The WOW tokens have not stopped private RMT although I'm sure it has slowed it down. It's still a thing.
    No no no... you got it wrong.

    WoW tokens LEGITIMIZE RMT. It's not a tool to stop... its a step so blizz takes a cut.

    ALL the top players/streamers who left WoW mentioned it. There is a 2hour long video from Bellular talking about PvE and PvP impact of RMT funneled through WoW tokens.

    It's really messed up.

    The fact this exists in such a time honoured MMORPG saddened me, I just don't see any level to which gaming will not go to rake more money in. I guess this practice is becoming the norm now, as these abusive practices always spread across the genre.  :/
    If you're going to be saddened about something, be saddened that a large enough portion of the player base wants to buy gold that a whole industry sprouted up to meet their demand.

    It doesn't matter whether they buy it from a shady site or Blizzard except that by Blizzard selling it legit, it encourages more players to do it who might have been put off by the TOS violation or simply don't trust shady transactions with gold sellers.

    The actual sad thing is that players want to buy gold in the first place so they can be just as wealthy as players who played the game cleverly to amass their gold.

    What Blizzard is actually doing is legitimizing posers using their wallet to pass for clever players,
    I may have seemed to characterise this as just a bad studio issue, but it takes two to tango. We have seen an appetite to spend on P2W features that makes me wonder if we can call ourselves gamers anymore. This is a reflection of how the player base has changed, but in step with how the gaming companies wanted that player base to change, we can't say that any studio has every made a move to give players an incentive to spend less.
  • BoreauBoreau Member UncommonPosts: 32
    edited August 2021
    Yawn.... just counting the days until New World gets released... so over WoW at this point... they make a bad expansion after bad expansion and we have to suffer with it over and over for years until they hear us... Not to mention the whole pay to win dynamic... no thanks.. I think it is time for something new.
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