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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    You know what's ironic lads? 

    That some of you who are against mask mandates because it is none of the government's business, argued with me before that governments should ban lootboxes!! :)))) 
    Never said they should be banned, I said, IF they are Gambling, they should rightfully be monitored under the nations Gambling commission, to ensure they are fair.
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    And that's mostly not how COVID spreads.
    Alright, I might have missed a memo, under the mountin of shit I have been bombarded with about this... so if not from coughing (Hence the 6 feet apart) How does it spread ?
    For the most part, COVID spreads when one person who has it exhales tiny droplets that can hang around in the air for a long time and travel long distances.  Another person inhales those droplets, and they get far enough down into the throat or lungs or whatever to infect him.

    COVID can also spread through larger droplets such as from a sneeze, but that's much less common.  The main reason it's less common is that the larger droplets themselves are much less common.  You breathe tens of thousands of times per day, but cough or sneeze massively less than that.

    If you're outdoors, then for the most part, those tiny droplets float off into the air and don't infect anyone.  Outdoors in a very crowded area (think full stadiums) can still be risky, but nearly all COVID transmission is indoors, not outdoors.  If you're outdoors on a sunny day, then sunlight zaps and kills COVID very quickly before it can infect someone else.  I'm not sure if clouds affect that much, but nighttime surely does.

    That COVID transmission is mostly indoors is why COVID is a seasonal disease:  people staying indoors to avoid inclement weather (whether too hot or too cold) is a seasonal thing, and facilitates the spread of COVID.  That's why warmer areas tend to have COVID spikes in the summer with people staying inside to avoid 100+ heat outside.  It's also why cooler areas tend to have COVID spikes in the winter.

    The six feet guidance is in a weird state of being outdated and wrong, but still reasonable.  It originated when they thought COVID spread mainly via larger droplets that would hit the ground quickly rather than just floating across a room.  Even so, crowding more people into smaller spaces is one of the big risk factors for COVID.

    The problem is that you can't really give an explanation of that which is simultaneously:

    1)  precise
    2)  comprehensible
    3)  correct

    Just saying "avoid crowded areas" is (2) and (3), but also very vague.  Even if you could write down some awful summation of iterated integrals that was exactly the right formula for risk and satisfied (1) and (3), people wouldn't have a clue what it meant or what to do about it.  "Six feet" is both (1) and (2), and at least positively correlated with being correct, as crowded areas tend to have people closer than that, while sparsely populated areas don't.  You just have to remember not to take it too literally, as it's only a proxy for "avoid crowded indoor areas".
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  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Quizzical said:
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    And that's mostly not how COVID spreads.
    Alright, I might have missed a memo, under the mountin of shit I have been bombarded with about this... so if not from coughing (Hence the 6 feet apart) How does it spread ?
    For the most part, COVID spreads when one person who has it exhales tiny droplets that can hang around in the air for a long time and travel long distances.  Another person inhales those droplets, and they get far enough down into the throat or lungs or whatever to infect him.

    COVID can also spread through larger droplets such as from a sneeze, but that's much less common.  The main reason it's less common is that the larger droplets themselves are much less common.  You breathe tens of thousands of times per day, but cough or sneeze massively less than that.

    If you're outdoors, then for the most part, those tiny droplets float off into the air and don't infect anyone.  Outdoors in a very crowded area (think full stadiums) can still be risky, but nearly all COVID transmission is indoors, not outdoors.  If you're outdoors on a sunny day, then sunlight zaps and kills COVID very quickly before it can infect someone else.  I'm not sure if clouds affect that much, but nighttime surely does.

    That COVID transmission is mostly indoors is why COVID is a seasonal disease:  people staying indoors to avoid inclement weather (whether too hot or too cold) is a seasonal thing, and facilitates the spread of COVID.  That's why warmer areas tend to have COVID spikes in the summer with people staying inside to avoid 100+ heat outside.  It's also why cooler areas tend to have COVID spikes in the winter.

    The six feet guidance is in a weird state of being outdated and wrong, but still reasonable.  It originated when they thought COVID spread mainly via larger droplets that would hit the ground quickly rather than just floating across a room.  Even so, crowding more people into smaller spaces is one of the big risk factors for COVID.

    The problem is that you can't really give an explanation of that which is simultaneously:

    1)  precise
    2)  comprehensible
    3)  correct

    Just saying "avoid crowded areas" is (2) and (3), but also very vague.  Even if you could write down some awful summation of iterated integrals that was exactly the right formula for risk and satisfied (1) and (3), people wouldn't have a clue what it meant or what to do about it.  "Six feet" is both (1) and (2), and at least positively correlated with being correct, as crowded areas tend to have people closer than that, while sparsely populated areas don't.  You just have to remember not to take it too literally, as it's only a proxy for "avoid crowded indoor areas".
    Humm narrative keeps changing.

    Thanks for the info
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • ItsThatGuyItsThatGuy Member UncommonPosts: 30
    Pretty hard to take anything printed by The Guardian seriously, it's a heavily left-leaning organization that hasn't produced anything even remotely resembling journalism in at least five years.

    They do not value objectivity in any way, shape or form.

    On the contrary in fact, as they create and push false narratives daily, mostly with the intent of having an impact on society and the current tumultuous political landscape. A group of online grifters and purveyors of fake news who prey on the most ignorant members of society and utilize their platform, almost exclusively, to deceive the reader and fearmonger.

    If anyone working there had even a modicum of journalistic integrity, they would immediately label all of their articles from the last half a decade as Op-Eds because in reality that is what they are and that is all they produce on the site.

    See you in six months when the next variant emerges and the Guardian publishes another doom and gloom horror story to accompany that variant as well.


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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    And that's mostly not how COVID spreads.
    Alright, I might have missed a memo, under the mountin of shit I have been bombarded with about this... so if not from coughing (Hence the 6 feet apart) How does it spread ?
    For the most part, COVID spreads when one person who has it exhales tiny droplets that can hang around in the air for a long time and travel long distances.  Another person inhales those droplets, and they get far enough down into the throat or lungs or whatever to infect him.

    COVID can also spread through larger droplets such as from a sneeze, but that's much less common.  The main reason it's less common is that the larger droplets themselves are much less common.  You breathe tens of thousands of times per day, but cough or sneeze massively less than that.

    If you're outdoors, then for the most part, those tiny droplets float off into the air and don't infect anyone.  Outdoors in a very crowded area (think full stadiums) can still be risky, but nearly all COVID transmission is indoors, not outdoors.  If you're outdoors on a sunny day, then sunlight zaps and kills COVID very quickly before it can infect someone else.  I'm not sure if clouds affect that much, but nighttime surely does.

    That COVID transmission is mostly indoors is why COVID is a seasonal disease:  people staying indoors to avoid inclement weather (whether too hot or too cold) is a seasonal thing, and facilitates the spread of COVID.  That's why warmer areas tend to have COVID spikes in the summer with people staying inside to avoid 100+ heat outside.  It's also why cooler areas tend to have COVID spikes in the winter.

    The six feet guidance is in a weird state of being outdated and wrong, but still reasonable.  It originated when they thought COVID spread mainly via larger droplets that would hit the ground quickly rather than just floating across a room.  Even so, crowding more people into smaller spaces is one of the big risk factors for COVID.

    The problem is that you can't really give an explanation of that which is simultaneously:

    1)  precise
    2)  comprehensible
    3)  correct

    Just saying "avoid crowded areas" is (2) and (3), but also very vague.  Even if you could write down some awful summation of iterated integrals that was exactly the right formula for risk and satisfied (1) and (3), people wouldn't have a clue what it meant or what to do about it.  "Six feet" is both (1) and (2), and at least positively correlated with being correct, as crowded areas tend to have people closer than that, while sparsely populated areas don't.  You just have to remember not to take it too literally, as it's only a proxy for "avoid crowded indoor areas".
    Humm narrative keeps changing.

    Thanks for the info
    Evidence pointed out airborne transmission from the beginning, but WHO remained in denial for such a a long time. They also delayed the announcement of COVID-19 becoming a pandemic. I mean, check out previous pandemics conditions when they were announced. This was just silly.  
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    And that's mostly not how COVID spreads.
    Alright, I might have missed a memo, under the mountin of shit I have been bombarded with about this... so if not from coughing (Hence the 6 feet apart) How does it spread ?
    For the most part, COVID spreads when one person who has it exhales tiny droplets that can hang around in the air for a long time and travel long distances.  Another person inhales those droplets, and they get far enough down into the throat or lungs or whatever to infect him.

    COVID can also spread through larger droplets such as from a sneeze, but that's much less common.  The main reason it's less common is that the larger droplets themselves are much less common.  You breathe tens of thousands of times per day, but cough or sneeze massively less than that.

    If you're outdoors, then for the most part, those tiny droplets float off into the air and don't infect anyone.  Outdoors in a very crowded area (think full stadiums) can still be risky, but nearly all COVID transmission is indoors, not outdoors.  If you're outdoors on a sunny day, then sunlight zaps and kills COVID very quickly before it can infect someone else.  I'm not sure if clouds affect that much, but nighttime surely does.

    That COVID transmission is mostly indoors is why COVID is a seasonal disease:  people staying indoors to avoid inclement weather (whether too hot or too cold) is a seasonal thing, and facilitates the spread of COVID.  That's why warmer areas tend to have COVID spikes in the summer with people staying inside to avoid 100+ heat outside.  It's also why cooler areas tend to have COVID spikes in the winter.

    The six feet guidance is in a weird state of being outdated and wrong, but still reasonable.  It originated when they thought COVID spread mainly via larger droplets that would hit the ground quickly rather than just floating across a room.  Even so, crowding more people into smaller spaces is one of the big risk factors for COVID.

    The problem is that you can't really give an explanation of that which is simultaneously:

    1)  precise
    2)  comprehensible
    3)  correct

    Just saying "avoid crowded areas" is (2) and (3), but also very vague.  Even if you could write down some awful summation of iterated integrals that was exactly the right formula for risk and satisfied (1) and (3), people wouldn't have a clue what it meant or what to do about it.  "Six feet" is both (1) and (2), and at least positively correlated with being correct, as crowded areas tend to have people closer than that, while sparsely populated areas don't.  You just have to remember not to take it too literally, as it's only a proxy for "avoid crowded indoor areas".
    Humm narrative keeps changing.

    Thanks for the info
    Evidence pointed out airborne transmission from the beginning, but WHO remained in denial for such a a long time. They also delayed the announcement of COVID-19 becoming a pandemic. I mean, check out previous pandemics conditions when they were announced. This was just silly.  
    The whole thing was political from the get go. Well… we’ve seen where that has gotten us. 

    We all have to work together on this or a lot more people are going to needlessly die. It also kills people indirectly and has the ability to ravage the world’s economy.

    Not the harmless little bug some people make it out to be.
    ConstantineMerus

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    laserit said:
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    And that's mostly not how COVID spreads.
    Alright, I might have missed a memo, under the mountin of shit I have been bombarded with about this... so if not from coughing (Hence the 6 feet apart) How does it spread ?
    For the most part, COVID spreads when one person who has it exhales tiny droplets that can hang around in the air for a long time and travel long distances.  Another person inhales those droplets, and they get far enough down into the throat or lungs or whatever to infect him.

    COVID can also spread through larger droplets such as from a sneeze, but that's much less common.  The main reason it's less common is that the larger droplets themselves are much less common.  You breathe tens of thousands of times per day, but cough or sneeze massively less than that.

    If you're outdoors, then for the most part, those tiny droplets float off into the air and don't infect anyone.  Outdoors in a very crowded area (think full stadiums) can still be risky, but nearly all COVID transmission is indoors, not outdoors.  If you're outdoors on a sunny day, then sunlight zaps and kills COVID very quickly before it can infect someone else.  I'm not sure if clouds affect that much, but nighttime surely does.

    That COVID transmission is mostly indoors is why COVID is a seasonal disease:  people staying indoors to avoid inclement weather (whether too hot or too cold) is a seasonal thing, and facilitates the spread of COVID.  That's why warmer areas tend to have COVID spikes in the summer with people staying inside to avoid 100+ heat outside.  It's also why cooler areas tend to have COVID spikes in the winter.

    The six feet guidance is in a weird state of being outdated and wrong, but still reasonable.  It originated when they thought COVID spread mainly via larger droplets that would hit the ground quickly rather than just floating across a room.  Even so, crowding more people into smaller spaces is one of the big risk factors for COVID.

    The problem is that you can't really give an explanation of that which is simultaneously:

    1)  precise
    2)  comprehensible
    3)  correct

    Just saying "avoid crowded areas" is (2) and (3), but also very vague.  Even if you could write down some awful summation of iterated integrals that was exactly the right formula for risk and satisfied (1) and (3), people wouldn't have a clue what it meant or what to do about it.  "Six feet" is both (1) and (2), and at least positively correlated with being correct, as crowded areas tend to have people closer than that, while sparsely populated areas don't.  You just have to remember not to take it too literally, as it's only a proxy for "avoid crowded indoor areas".
    Humm narrative keeps changing.

    Thanks for the info
    Evidence pointed out airborne transmission from the beginning, but WHO remained in denial for such a a long time. They also delayed the announcement of COVID-19 becoming a pandemic. I mean, check out previous pandemics conditions when they were announced. This was just silly.  
    The whole thing was political from the get go. Well… we’ve seen where that has gotten us. 

    We all have to work together on this or a lot more people are going to needlessly die. It also kills people indirectly and has the ability to ravage the world’s economy.

    Not the harmless little bug some people make it out to be.
    You are correct. Everything's political now. That's why I am migrating again, to a happy country off the news channels. 
    OldKingLog
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    laserit said:
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    And that's mostly not how COVID spreads.
    Alright, I might have missed a memo, under the mountin of shit I have been bombarded with about this... so if not from coughing (Hence the 6 feet apart) How does it spread ?
    For the most part, COVID spreads when one person who has it exhales tiny droplets that can hang around in the air for a long time and travel long distances.  Another person inhales those droplets, and they get far enough down into the throat or lungs or whatever to infect him.

    COVID can also spread through larger droplets such as from a sneeze, but that's much less common.  The main reason it's less common is that the larger droplets themselves are much less common.  You breathe tens of thousands of times per day, but cough or sneeze massively less than that.

    If you're outdoors, then for the most part, those tiny droplets float off into the air and don't infect anyone.  Outdoors in a very crowded area (think full stadiums) can still be risky, but nearly all COVID transmission is indoors, not outdoors.  If you're outdoors on a sunny day, then sunlight zaps and kills COVID very quickly before it can infect someone else.  I'm not sure if clouds affect that much, but nighttime surely does.

    That COVID transmission is mostly indoors is why COVID is a seasonal disease:  people staying indoors to avoid inclement weather (whether too hot or too cold) is a seasonal thing, and facilitates the spread of COVID.  That's why warmer areas tend to have COVID spikes in the summer with people staying inside to avoid 100+ heat outside.  It's also why cooler areas tend to have COVID spikes in the winter.

    The six feet guidance is in a weird state of being outdated and wrong, but still reasonable.  It originated when they thought COVID spread mainly via larger droplets that would hit the ground quickly rather than just floating across a room.  Even so, crowding more people into smaller spaces is one of the big risk factors for COVID.

    The problem is that you can't really give an explanation of that which is simultaneously:

    1)  precise
    2)  comprehensible
    3)  correct

    Just saying "avoid crowded areas" is (2) and (3), but also very vague.  Even if you could write down some awful summation of iterated integrals that was exactly the right formula for risk and satisfied (1) and (3), people wouldn't have a clue what it meant or what to do about it.  "Six feet" is both (1) and (2), and at least positively correlated with being correct, as crowded areas tend to have people closer than that, while sparsely populated areas don't.  You just have to remember not to take it too literally, as it's only a proxy for "avoid crowded indoor areas".
    Humm narrative keeps changing.

    Thanks for the info
    Evidence pointed out airborne transmission from the beginning, but WHO remained in denial for such a a long time. They also delayed the announcement of COVID-19 becoming a pandemic. I mean, check out previous pandemics conditions when they were announced. This was just silly.  
    The whole thing was political from the get go. Well… we’ve seen where that has gotten us. 

    We all have to work together on this or a lot more people are going to needlessly die. It also kills people indirectly and has the ability to ravage the world’s economy.

    Not the harmless little bug some people make it out to be.
    You are correct. Everything's political now. That's why I am migrating again, to a happy country off the news channels. 
    Welcome to Vancouver Canada except that we've been inundated with natural disasters this year :(

    We could always use a clear head ;)
    ConstantineMerus

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    My plan is to move to the arctic. I might pull the trigger in the next couple of months. 
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Quizzical said:
    Ungood said:
    Masks in Asian nations are like Uggs, where they were originally worn for one reason (Surfers/Air Pollution), and became a fashion statement, They are not, nor have they ever really been, any kind of disease control.

    Need Proof? Look at the Culture, masks in those nations are primarily a female fashion trend, as males typically do not wear them indoors, during formal meetings, etc, etc, which totally defeats the whole point of them being a disease control tool to start with.

    Also, if you wanted to have a discussion about real disease control, solid plastic face shields are a far, far, superior option, as they not only contain you, they actually protect you from others, which masks do not do.

    Now, with that known, let me ask you a question, have you noticed that as far as Mandates go, face shields are often not allowed as an alternate option to a mask, have you ever wondered why the people making the rules want you to directly wear an inferior product like a mask, and not the superior face shield.

    That would be like an MMO, requiring you to use a shitty buckler shield to block with, but not allow you to use a Tower Shield to Block with.. like WTF kind of logic is that.

    Thankfully I have not played any MMO with that level of faulty logic, but, that does not mean they don't exist.
    Face shields are nearly useless against COVID, and worse than cloth masks, but for similar reasons.  The problem is that face shields can only filter COVID out of air that goes through the face shield.  And no air at all goes through the face shield.  Air goes around it, and COVID does likewise.  Perhaps a face shield could catch a sneeze, but it's not going to do much more than that.  And that's mostly not how COVID spreads.

    Now, if you were to press that face shield against your mouth and nose enough that you couldn't breathe, then that would be ironclad protection against COVID.  Unfortunately, it would also kill you a lot faster than COVID.

    It is amazing to me how misinformed even physicians are about face shields.  My neurologist was wearing a mask and shield for my appointment today.



    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Wargfoot said:
    My plan is to move to the arctic. I might pull the trigger in the next couple of months. 
    I feel like your internet connection might suffer a little bit.
    Plus, I think all polar bears are really extreme right wing, aren't they?
    Well as a matter of fact it has 5G and it is very technologically advanced.

    Considering that I am half right winger half left winger I would welcome them with open arms as long as they wear their masks in indoor spaces ;) 
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    edited November 2021
    Wargfoot said:
    laserit said:
    Welcome to Vancouver Canada except that we've been inundated with natural disasters this year :(

    We could always use a clear head ;)
    Slow down there, laserit, this isn't a freakin' recruitment site for Canada.
    Don't worry, we don't want crazies like you up here ;)

    Edit: I would buy you a beer, any day of the week my friend

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    laserit said:
    Wargfoot said:
    laserit said:
    Welcome to Vancouver Canada except that we've been inundated with natural disasters this year :(

    We could always use a clear head ;)
    Slow down there, laserit, this isn't a freakin' recruitment site for Canada.
    Don't worry, we don't want crazies like you up here ;)

    Edit: I would buy you a beer, any day of the week my friend

    I might be willing to relocate, if you've managed to do anything about that Winter problem.  Cold is a no-go for me.



    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Mendel said:
    laserit said:
    Wargfoot said:
    laserit said:
    Welcome to Vancouver Canada except that we've been inundated with natural disasters this year :(

    We could always use a clear head ;)
    Slow down there, laserit, this isn't a freakin' recruitment site for Canada.
    Don't worry, we don't want crazies like you up here ;)

    Edit: I would buy you a beer, any day of the week my friend

    I might be willing to relocate, if you've managed to do anything about that Winter problem.  Cold is a no-go for me.



    Stick to the west coast and the coldest it gets is around 44 all the way up through Alaska. It just can get pretty wet sometimes. We can usually count the snow fall days on a single hand, sometimes no hand at all.

    We had a joke that in Vancouver, you don't tan, you rust ;) 
    [Deleted User]delete5230

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Ungood said:
    Humm narrative keeps changing.

    Thanks for the info
    Evidence pointed out airborne transmission from the beginning, but WHO remained in denial for such a a long time. They also delayed the announcement of COVID-19 becoming a pandemic. I mean, check out previous pandemics conditions when they were announced. This was just silly.  
    I am not being rude when I say this.. but I have ingested way too much of this Covid fearporn in the news to last me a lifetime, and every time I turn around, there is a new story, or a change, or something.

    Thank you for update on the info.. but really.. I'm done now. Thank you.
    OldKingLogConstantineMerus[Deleted User]delete5230Brainy
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Wargfoot said:
    BAN TEH COVIDS!
    One country's response to the virus was to ban the use of the word "coronavirus".  I forget which country did that.  It might have been Turkmenistan.

    China's response early on was to basically ban reporting that anyone had COVID or had caught it in China after the first wave.  Basically, the official government propaganda was that the government's response had wiped out COVID in China, and contradicting that would make the government look bad, so it was illegal.  That's also pretty close to your comment.
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  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 600
    laserit said:
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    Ungood said:
    Quizzical said:
    And that's mostly not how COVID spreads.
    Alright, I might have missed a memo, under the mountin of shit I have been bombarded with about this... so if not from coughing (Hence the 6 feet apart) How does it spread ?
    For the most part, COVID spreads when one person who has it exhales tiny droplets that can hang around in the air for a long time and travel long distances.  Another person inhales those droplets, and they get far enough down into the throat or lungs or whatever to infect him.

    COVID can also spread through larger droplets such as from a sneeze, but that's much less common.  The main reason it's less common is that the larger droplets themselves are much less common.  You breathe tens of thousands of times per day, but cough or sneeze massively less than that.

    If you're outdoors, then for the most part, those tiny droplets float off into the air and don't infect anyone.  Outdoors in a very crowded area (think full stadiums) can still be risky, but nearly all COVID transmission is indoors, not outdoors.  If you're outdoors on a sunny day, then sunlight zaps and kills COVID very quickly before it can infect someone else.  I'm not sure if clouds affect that much, but nighttime surely does.

    That COVID transmission is mostly indoors is why COVID is a seasonal disease:  people staying indoors to avoid inclement weather (whether too hot or too cold) is a seasonal thing, and facilitates the spread of COVID.  That's why warmer areas tend to have COVID spikes in the summer with people staying inside to avoid 100+ heat outside.  It's also why cooler areas tend to have COVID spikes in the winter.

    The six feet guidance is in a weird state of being outdated and wrong, but still reasonable.  It originated when they thought COVID spread mainly via larger droplets that would hit the ground quickly rather than just floating across a room.  Even so, crowding more people into smaller spaces is one of the big risk factors for COVID.

    The problem is that you can't really give an explanation of that which is simultaneously:

    1)  precise
    2)  comprehensible
    3)  correct

    Just saying "avoid crowded areas" is (2) and (3), but also very vague.  Even if you could write down some awful summation of iterated integrals that was exactly the right formula for risk and satisfied (1) and (3), people wouldn't have a clue what it meant or what to do about it.  "Six feet" is both (1) and (2), and at least positively correlated with being correct, as crowded areas tend to have people closer than that, while sparsely populated areas don't.  You just have to remember not to take it too literally, as it's only a proxy for "avoid crowded indoor areas".
    Humm narrative keeps changing.

    Thanks for the info
    Evidence pointed out airborne transmission from the beginning, but WHO remained in denial for such a a long time. They also delayed the announcement of COVID-19 becoming a pandemic. I mean, check out previous pandemics conditions when they were announced. This was just silly.  
    The whole thing was political from the get go. Well… we’ve seen where that has gotten us. 

    We all have to work together on this or a lot more people are going to needlessly die. It also kills people indirectly and has the ability to ravage the world’s economy.

    Not the harmless little bug some people make it out to be.
    You are correct. Everything's political now. That's why I am migrating again, to a happy country off the news channels. 

    "Newsflash: The Mighty Cthulhu has risen and Iceland has sunk into the depths of the sea."
    ConstantineMerus
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    Well the good part is, I can beat the hell out of someone in an MMO, and not risk them giving me the Divoc.
    Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Pretty hard to take anything printed by The Guardian seriously, it's a heavily left-leaning organization that hasn't produced anything even remotely resembling journalism in at least five years.
    This is why I so often say to believe evidence, not sources.  If the most biased of sources have the evidence to prove their claims, it doesn't matter that they're biased.

    Realistically, if Omicron ever matters, it's going to be quite a while.  Even if it's far more contagious than Delta and can double its market share every two weeks, it would take a year or so for it to go from first existing to becoming the predominant variant out there.  It's probably already existed for months by now before being detected, though.

    Remember that the Delta variant was first discovered in late 2020.  It didn't really become a large fraction of COVID in the US until around the middle of 2021, however.  Omicron could be a big deal next Spring or Summer, but it's going to be a while before it really matters, if it ever does.
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    laserit said:
    Mendel said:
    laserit said:
    Wargfoot said:
    laserit said:
    Welcome to Vancouver Canada except that we've been inundated with natural disasters this year :(

    We could always use a clear head ;)
    Slow down there, laserit, this isn't a freakin' recruitment site for Canada.
    Don't worry, we don't want crazies like you up here ;)

    Edit: I would buy you a beer, any day of the week my friend

    I might be willing to relocate, if you've managed to do anything about that Winter problem.  Cold is a no-go for me.



    Stick to the west coast and the coldest it gets is around 44 all the way up through Alaska. It just can get pretty wet sometimes. We can usually count the snow fall days on a single hand, sometimes no hand at all.

    We had a joke that in Vancouver, you don't tan, you rust ;) 
    On average, Washington DC gets 2 more inches of snow per year than Vancouver: 19.5 vs. our 17.5 :)
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  • GorillaGorilla Member UncommonPosts: 2,235
    Not playing one now. MMORPGs  just don’t seem to be evolving. Swung by here after a years absence to see if there is anything new to try. Doesn’t appear so.
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