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As to censoring disagreement, that's not what's happening. Shouting down potentially harmful misinformation, yes, that's happening as it should be and not vigorously enough, IMO, since social media can disseminate irresponsible and harmful misinformation very quickly and very widely.
At the end of the day, you know stuff about computer HW and software so your opinions on those subjects have credibility and respect. Why don't you try extending the same courtesy to medical professionals who are in fact overwhelmingly messaging the same message instead of thinking that your superior intellect and googling skills makes what you have to say equal to what they're saying.
That's not just disrespectful to the knowledge of professionals in other fields, it's also mildly delusional and arrogant although pretty well the sign of the times in which we now live..
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Do keep us up to date on the show or lack of it mind you.
The economy is suffering, if everyone over 15 (I am still not sure about children) was vaccinated we might not need lockdowns. Some of your arguments are quite valid, but there are no alternatives. Yes, being in doors puts you at more risk, but being indoors in an office would be a greater risk. Also if people were not at home they would be at home, outside, on public transport and at the office, that would be worse.
We are turning this thread into a political one, so I will leave you to have the last word.
"Oh darn, I have these E3 plans and I don't want to talk to people. Better blame covid."
Well of course there are good reasons not to get vaccinated. For starters, some people know that they are very allergic to a key ingredient in vaccines. That's estimated to be about 1000 or so adults in the United States, which isn't very many, but even one is enough to destroy your claim that there are no good reasons not to get vaccinated. More broadly, someone who has a very nasty reaction to one shot of a vaccine probably shouldn't get another shot of that same vaccine.
The studies of the effects of vaccination generally exclude people who have previously had COVID and recovered. We know that vaccination helps a lot if you don't have any previous source of immunity. Vaccination may still help a little in that case, but natural immunity already provides about what you were hoping to get from being vaccinated, and studies to determine whether vaccines work have tended to conspicuously exclude people who already had COVID. People used to know this, which is why, for example, people who have actually had measles are told not to subsequently get vaccinated for it.
There's also the issue that the COVID vaccine has relatively nasty side effects as vaccines go. Meanwhile, the marginal benefit of additional doses drops off very sharply. For example, in the big Pfizer study of the effects of booster shots, among people under the age of 30, there were zero people who got a booster and were hospitalized for COVID. There were also zero people who got a placebo (previously vaccinated but no booster) and were hospitalized for COVID. But there was one person who was hospitalized for a reaction to the booster shot.
If the goal is specifically to reduce COVID-related hospitalizations, then teenage boys with prior immunity (whether natural immunity from a COVID infection or vaccinated and considering a booster) would be banned from getting the mRNA vaccines. The risk of being hospitalized for myocarditis as a reaction to the shot is only one in a few thousand, but that's much greater than the change in hospitalization chance from a COVID infection that a booster shot makes in that demographic.
Certainly, a lot of people should get vaccinated, and that's why a lot of people have been. But not everyone. There are exceptions.
"When you are living in a society you have agreed to a social contract by default."
No, we are not. We have written laws that you have to obey. But an unwritten social contract is an arbitrarily malleable rhetorical device that can be claimed to say whatever the person appealing to it finds convenient that day. Charlatans and demagogues sometimes like to appeal to a social contract because it sounds better than saying "you have to do this solely because I said so", but it's not at all similar to a contract, and the name is an intentionally deceptive misnomer.
"When you become a liability, a risk to others, harm others, put others in risk, increase your potential harm to others, by CHOICE, in ANY way imaginable, then you are breaking your social contract. "
Okay then, whenever you drive a car, you're creating a risk that you could hit someone. Even if you don't, you're creating more traffic for other drivers. So you're hurting other people and should stop. Buying any product at all could mean that a store runs out and someone else can't get the product that he wants because you bought it. So you should never buy anything because that could hurt other people.
Serious decision making is about trade-offs. You have to weigh the costs of something against the benefits. Focusing only on one side of the ledger and ignoring the other is a way to make all sorts of insane decisions.
The question of whether to have lockdowns or mask mandates or vaccine mandates or whatever is a political question, not a medical one. It is disingenuous to say that we "needed" to do this or that. No, we didn't need to, and some places didn't. And places like Sweden and Florida that rejected lockdowns didn't face apocalyptic consequences as a result, no matter how much left-wing media screamed at them about it.
If you want to compare states in the United States, we've effectively done an implicit experiment with some states having strict lockdowns and others little or none at all. There are some states where basically everyone wears masks in public, and some where hardly anyone ever wears a mask. And it doesn't make much of a difference to COVID case rates, hospitalizations, or death rates.
In the UK, most of the people who are dying of COVID are vaccinated. That's how it goes once a high enough percentage of the population is vaccinated. If 95% of high risk people are vaccinated, and 70% of COVID deaths are vaccinated, then that's good evidence that the vaccine does a lot of good. But the marginal effect of getting that last 5% vaccinated wouldn't be that huge.
What can often happen is that among experts in some field, 70% think that A is better than B, and 30% think that B is better than A. But the former group feels strongly enough about it to try to punish anyone for saying that B is better. The people who think B is better mostly figure out that saying so is bad for your career, so they keep their mouth shut. Maybe only 3% of the experts are willing to speak up and say that B is better than A. But that doesn't mean that there's an overwhelming consensus that A is better than B. All that it means is that experts disagree, but the claims that B is better are being censored or otherwise penalized.
More fundamentally, science isn't about consensus. It's about evidence. There has at various times in the past been a consensus around all sorts of things that weren't true. If you've got the evidence to back your claims, then consensus will usually follow. But there are a lot of things that we simply don't know because getting the evidence that would prove things one way or another is too hard. In such situations, the only scientifically honest thing to say is that we don't know.
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Not aware of "Fauci and his thugs" though but then I stay far away from Trumpist propaganda.
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Excluding people for vaccination depends on a lot of things. But your argument only postpones vaccination, which in most guidelines, you cannot get a jab right after you got COVID anyways even if you wanted to.
Again, there are more than one type of vaccine to choose from. Also such calculating for such measures must be done on a large scale, it isn't something that one person can predict personally.
We have agreed on a social contract. You can deny it all you want. But this debate has been done to the death in philosophy for the past 2500 years or so. There is nothing new to add to it. As I said, you can debate it again on a philosophical level. But most of the things people do are because they are part of the society and they respect the contract not because they are afraid of getting caught by the police. The reason you have agreed is because you are already benefiting the contract. You can't have it both ways.
Good analogy with the car. We do put people in danger. That's why we don't get to decide what the rules should be on an individual level. You can't say I am an excellent driver hence the speed limit doesn't apply to me. Or I have very strong lungs so my car can pollute more than the standard.
These trade offs can't be set on an individual level. Different governments have taken different measures. The data is available. None so far have suggested not getting vaccinated is better.
This is the result of anti-vaxx movement that predates COVID. It is as logical now as it was before, only with much direr consequences.
Conscience does not merely tell us what is right or what is wrong; conscience fulfills a much more fundamental, much more important role: conscience is our awareness of responsibility.
Hospitals go where the money is... just like climate scientists. Bogus climate data, bogus hospital admissions data.
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By then we'll just have another more stronger virus to worry about, enjoy that thought!
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