Why would someone buy gold from an external seller in Albion, when you can do it officially through the game shop ?
Pretty much my pet peeve with Albion, by the way... unlike NW, Albion is really "pay to win". You can grind to get your gear, your island upgrades, etc... or just buy gold and silver and get everything immediately.
Because with Albion Online they used to not have a "Albion Gold" which could be exchanged.
Back in Beta / Early Alpha things were much different I was there since Alpha #1 ever launched before packages ever went on sale.
During the Final Beta of Albion Online without any warning I received an account ban for accepting Investment / Trade without equal value of items in return which at the time I had no Idea was a violation of the TOS since rules state in most games you have to pay real $$$ for it to be a violation of the game rules.
Turns out that just shortly after that ban they posted a launcher message telling everyone not to accept anything, since people were buying up Starter Packages and abusing them giving away the mounts and stuff or selling them to get people banned by doing charge-backs, I had no idea of this at the time since the game had launched should have at least got a single warning of what was going on...
This is while the Admins of Albion Online allowed "The Bank OF Albion" a player guild to violate that same rule I broke by accepting investments without anything of equal value in return where the guild bought up a lot of virtual propertys in game and made money back charging people tax.
Even after that the developers of that specific game made the mistake to introduce laborer journals exploit, then blamed the players for reaching patch-notes and for their own mistake just as they did me lol.
The difference between AGS / New World & Albion for example, you won't get banned for accepting items in New World without anything of Equal Value in return...
I accepted some free weapons / Armor as I was leveling up my character and Gold from a person who was help (To help you level) Never got banned for accepting but never spent real money either. Now being levle 60 is so easy to make gold / coin in New World.
The focus of online MMO's should be to keep Gold Spammers out of thes games, not target free economy and trade (It took a lot of reporting bots / spammers on the server im on but most are banned now.
Wait... as I recall you told us that you got banned in Albion for trading some stuff from Archeage in exchange for some gold in Albion using a third party gold selling website. Wasn't that the case?
I also remember Albion showing you proof after you appealed with chat logs where the gold seller approached you saying "hi. this is delivery." (for some reason that phrase stuck in my mind )
I'm sure that ancient post is still around here somewhere...
Yep, exchanged stuff from another game I didn't play anymore, we didn't exchange game accounts, or anything, and since no real money was involved theoretically it wasn't illegal, though the Terms OF Serviice change 5.6.1 kinda got me because the game is advertised as a "Sandbox" which means you can freely trade anything you want for any price you want or even give items away or currency without any penalty or restriction.
^ It was technically a small investment since the game had just entered beta just before launch, and since I had just left AA entirely, I was planning on using that gold to upgrade personal islands and farm on Albion at the start, if the dev actually investigate and checked the log they would have seen it.
Point is Albion Online isn't a True Sandbox game because lots of people violated that rule regardless of the circumstance at the time it was 4.5.1, though the terms of service has been recently updated again.
"The acquisition of Virtual Benefits in exchange for any form of consideration other than Virtual Property or Virtual Currency of the Game is expressly prohibited. If the User trades or exchanges Virtual Benefits on a large scale without a comparable value obtained within the Game, then it is assumed that the User violates this rule. The User is entitled to provide counter-evidence. For the avoidance of doubt, Users are also prohibited from knowingly supporting, aiding or abetting other Users in breaching this clause 4.5.1."
So yeah at the time of the update not knowing the terms has changed and doing an exchange violated it even though no money was involved, however the company still allowed certain guilds like "Bank OF Albion" to receive investments from other "Unknown Players" without anything of equal value, and allowed the guild to completely take over certain city's and get ahead of everyone because the investments allowed them to take property and charge players tax.
Anyways I don't know of any other company aside from Albion that actually bans people for receiving items, currency, or giving it away without anything in return and i've played a lot of other MMO's with Free Trade advertised as a Sandbox, and never received a ban for giving items away either.
Albion devs made a lot of mistakes since the launch, including blaming players for laborer journals, again being ban happy and threatening people who took advantage of an un-intended update change they made to the game, (the least they could have done Since the game was still in beta is had deleted the currency from my account, and informed me of the policy since I was a player of the game for years, early on in it's development before the game even launched, as if I wanted in-game currency i'd just buy it from the company itself.
Even in New World, some random players saw I had just started the game awhile ago, one player gave me 10k, a couple of others gave some bags and items (I never got banned for accepting it.)
And I also personally give things away to new players once I get high enough anyways, should the game company ban them because I choose to give items or currency away?
Though yes gold-sellers were a problem in that game and I do my part and report them I hate spam.
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Yep, exchanged stuff from another game I didn't play anymore, we didn't exchange game accounts, or anything, and since no real money was involved theoretically it wasn't illegal, though the Terms OF Serviice change 5.6.1 kinda got me because the game is advertised as a "Sandbox" which means you can freely trade anything you want for any price you want or even give items away or currency without any penalty or restriction.
^ It was technically a small investment since the game had just entered beta just before launch, and since I had just left AA entirely, I was planning on using that gold to upgrade personal islands and farm on Albion at the start, if the dev actually investigate and checked the log they would have seen it.
Point is Albion Online isn't a True Sandbox game because lots of people violated that rule regardless of the circumstance at the time it was 4.5.1, though the terms of service has been recently updated again.
"The acquisition of Virtual Benefits in exchange for any form of consideration other than Virtual Property or Virtual Currency of the Game is expressly prohibited. If the User trades or exchanges Virtual Benefits on a large scale without a comparable value obtained within the Game, then it is assumed that the User violates this rule. The User is entitled to provide counter-evidence. For the avoidance of doubt, Users are also prohibited from knowingly supporting, aiding or abetting other Users in breaching this clause 4.5.1."
So yeah at the time of the update not knowing the terms has changed and doing an exchange violated it even though no money was involved, however the company still allowed certain guilds like "Bank OF Albion" to receive investments from other "Unknown Players" without anything of equal value, and allowed the guild to completely take over certain city's and get ahead of everyone because the investments allowed them to take property and charge players tax.
Anyways I don't know of any other company aside from Albion that actually bans people for receiving items, currency, or giving it away without anything in return and i've played a lot of other MMO's with Free Trade advertised as a Sandbox, and never received a ban for giving items away either.
Albion devs made a lot of mistakes since the launch, including blaming players for laborer journals, again being ban happy and threatening people who took advantage of an un-intended update change they made to the game, (the least they could have done Since the game was still in beta is had deleted the currency from my account, and informed me of the policy since I was a player of the game for years, early on in it's development before the game even launched, as if I wanted in-game currency i'd just buy it from the company itself.
Even in New World, some random players saw I had just started the game awhile ago, one player gave me 10k, a couple of others gave some bags and items (I never got banned for accepting it.)
And I also personally give things away to new players once I get high enough anyways, should the game company ban them because I choose to give items or currency away?
Though yes gold-sellers were a problem in that game and I do my part and report them I hate spam.