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TitanReach Suddenly Ends Development, NFTs and Crypto Were Goals For Its Future | MMORPG.com

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edited February 2022 in News & Features Discussion

imageTitanReach Suddenly Ends Development, NFTs and Crypto Were Goals For Its Future | MMORPG.com

TitanReach has shut down for good. Square Root Studios has also closed, with revealed plans for the game to heavily incorporate crypto and NFTs.

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  • Jaguaratron1Jaguaratron1 Member UncommonPosts: 299
    The toilet is exactly where this trash belongs, "oh yeah NFT/Crypto is all trash EXCEPT for ours which is awesome"

    Go rot.
    DarkpigeonDhampirDiabhualKyleranTacticalZombehmarkus1902SabbythSamhaelimershondoomexand 4 others.
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  • LumeriaLumeria Member UncommonPosts: 61
    edited February 2022
    "NFT/Crypto Games" the mystical version of Kickstarter because no one really gets it, not even the developers.

    Adios.

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    It's important to note they said they intended to implement it, but sounds like they never got the crypto aspects off the ground. Had they had something to show for their efforts they probably could have found funding pretty easily since a lot of investors spend millions on blockchain games right now. 

    But based on their implementation it just doesn't sound like they really understood how to monetize that aspect, which is pretty easy tbh. If any clown could fleece a bunch of "crypto investors" with a rug pull it should be extremely easy for a legit project in the space to find funding. Something ridiculous must have happened. 
    OldKingLog



  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    So, to help get everyone on the same page, do we count this as a failure of game development or a failed crypto scheme?



    Littlenymphdragonlee66

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  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 600
    edited February 2022
    It's important to note they said they intended to implement it, but sounds like they never got the crypto aspects off the ground. Had they had something to show for their efforts they probably could have found funding pretty easily since a lot of investors spend millions on blockchain games right now. 

    But based on their implementation it just doesn't sound like they really understood how to monetize that aspect, which is pretty easy tbh. If any clown could fleece a bunch of "crypto investors" with a rug pull it should be extremely easy for a legit project in the space to find funding. Something ridiculous must have happened. 

    Your insight might be painfully close to the truth without realizing it. I wonder if they tried to invest in the market for a little venture capital and instead got scammed or just lost their shirts in one of the recent crypto crashes.
    Post edited by OldKingLog on
    maskedweasel
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483

    Mendel said:

    So, to help get everyone on the same page, do we count this as a failure of game development or a failed crypto scheme?






    Yes.
    Kyleran[Deleted User]TacticalZombehDiabhualSplattrMendelSamhaeldragonlee66TheDalaiBombaAsm0deusand 1 other.
  • RidrithRidrith Member RarePosts: 855
    LOL. Love seeing it. Screw NFT scumbags.
    I like to complain about games.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    It's important to note they said they intended to implement it, but sounds like they never got the crypto aspects off the ground. Had they had something to show for their efforts they probably could have found funding pretty easily since a lot of investors spend millions on blockchain games right now. 

    But based on their implementation it just doesn't sound like they really understood how to monetize that aspect, which is pretty easy tbh. If any clown could fleece a bunch of "crypto investors" with a rug pull it should be extremely easy for a legit project in the space to find funding. Something ridiculous must have happened. 

    Your insight might be painfully close to the truth without realizing it. I wonder of they tried to invest in the market for a little venture capital and instead got scammed or just lost their shirts in one of the recent crypto crashes.
    Yeah, I'm thinking I should pull out my retirement savings and bet it all on black
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  • TiamatRoarTiamatRoar Member RarePosts: 1,688
    Mendel said:
    So, to help get everyone on the same page, do we count this as a failure of game development or a failed crypto scheme?



    Why not both?
    Mendel
  • immoralthangimmoralthang Member RarePosts: 300
    The people who worked on this need to be flagged so any future project they have fails. NFTs and crypto bros are a cancer.
    imershonMcSleaz
  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,980
    The question is what happened with that 1 million dollars "gift" investment, no strings attached, by a mysterious millionaire - to save the game from closure?

    Was that a lie? Or did they do exactly what they said they will not do and just pocketed the money and closed the game?

    I mean in both versions they are major scumbags
    doomex



  • LittlenymphLittlenymph Member UncommonPosts: 4

    Mendel said:

    So, to help get everyone on the same page, do we count this as a failure of game development or a failed crypto scheme?






    From my viewpoint, both.

    That said, it's obvious from the developers comments that the focus was on building a game around a monetization model as opposed to building a great game coupled with an effective means of supporting said game. Granted, a game has to make money in order to survive, but putting the money first and foremost is akin to putting the cart before the horse. It does not matter how well the game is monetized if the game is not worth playing. If it was a good game with solid development, it could have been published with a different form of revenue generation.

    The crypto/blockchain/NFT apects would have turned me off, even if it had managed to make it to publication.
    If you are looking for an old-school indie game with a Runescape-like theme and an honest and understandable means of generating revenue, look up Villagers and Heroes. It might not suit your tastes but you won't get taken to the cleaners. On the other hand, if you have dreams of making money by playing games, I don't have any advice for ya. That's not why I play games. Games are supposed to be for the fun of it.

    KyleranMendel
  • TybostTybost Member UncommonPosts: 629
    Stizzled said:
    Stole money, pissed it away on crypto, admitted to doing so to the investor who then pulled the funding from the game. Whenever this guy comes crawling back, don't trust him with a single cent.


    That vid is a must watch. Feel bad for andre.
    Kyleran
  • kjempffkjempff Member RarePosts: 1,759
    Our crypto/nft concept is completely different...
    Followed by an explanation of their concept which is the same as all the others.
  • nursonurso Member UncommonPosts: 327
    Stizzled said:
    Stole money, pissed it away on crypto, admitted to doing so to the investor who then pulled the funding from the game.
    A crypto entrepreneur is funding an unknown game developer with no strings attached, who in return invests the money in crypto instead of making the game. The Circle of Life.
    Kyleran
  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,450
    edited February 2022
    Looks like another crypto market bubble exploded.

    When will people learn that like the stock market, there is nothing reliable about speculative investments.

    Video games shouldn't even come into that equation, but somehow, they do, and have, and everyone involved suffers, except for those who know exactly what they are doing and are the one's causing the damage when they cash out.


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited February 2022
    Neoyoshi said:
    Looks like another crypto market bubble exploded.

    When will people learn that like the stock market, there is nothing reliable about speculative investments.

    Video games shouldn't even come into that equation, but somehow, they do, and have, and everyone involved suffers, except for those who know exactly what they are doing and are the one's causing the damage when they cash out.
    Crypto anything is an industry begging to be more regulated, should be just like stock markets or gambling casinos maybe.

    During the Superbowl some company's ad offered a free wallet with $25 in crypto which saw it's web site crash from the huge number of fools rushing to sign up to part with their money.

    A couple of months ago my normally practical daughter told me she "invested" $50 in some junk crypto and it had already "appreciated" to $65 or something.

    I asked her who she had her wallet with and she said, "wallet? I dunno."

    Went down hill from there, I asked her to please stop doing this until she /we had a chance to do more investigation. (Her fiance was chomping at the bit to "invest" a couple thousand into it.)

    I sure hope they listened....

     :# 

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  • nursonurso Member UncommonPosts: 327
    Kyleran said:
    During the Superbowl some company's ad offered a free wallet with $25 in crypto which saw it's web site crash from the huge number of fools rushing to sign up to part with their money.
    Another conspiracy theory of mine: all those Superbowl commercials are meant to flush fresh money into the crypto sphere so that the big players can finally trade their tokens without triggering a run on cryptocurrency exchanges.

    Kylerankjempff
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Kyleran said:
    Neoyoshi said:
    Looks like another crypto market bubble exploded.

    When will people learn that like the stock market, there is nothing reliable about speculative investments.

    Video games shouldn't even come into that equation, but somehow, they do, and have, and everyone involved suffers, except for those who know exactly what they are doing and are the one's causing the damage when they cash out.
    Crypto anything is an industry begging to be more regulated, should be just like stock markets or gambling casinos maybe.

    During the Superbowl some company's ad offered a free wallet with $25 in crypto which saw it's web site crash from the huge number of fools rushing to sign up to part with their money.

    A couple of months ago my normally practical daughter told me she "invested" $50 in some junk crypto and it had already "appreciated" to $65 or something.

    I asked her who she had her wallet with and she said, "wallet? I dunno."

    Went down hill from there, I asked her to please stop doing this until she /we had a chance to do more investigation. (Her fiance was chomping at the bit to "invest" a couple thousand into it.)

    I sure hope they listened....

     :# 
    The thing is there are platforms that let you buy crypto without having a true wallet. For example PayPal let's you buy crypto. The problem is,  in some cases you can buy crypto but you can't sell it. In the case of PayPal you can't trade it or spend it,  it's treated like a stock, and I would bet many people who buy in PayPal think that's exactly what it is. 

    Last I checked they only traded bitcoin,  litecoin, and ethereum.  

    People still see every cryptocurrency as some sort of investment,  but that's really not what a lot of them are.  Many of them are platforms with a purpose.  Some aren't even built to appreciate in value. 
    [Deleted User]Kylerankjempff



  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    Kyleran said:
    Neoyoshi said:
    Looks like another crypto market bubble exploded.

    When will people learn that like the stock market, there is nothing reliable about speculative investments.

    Video games shouldn't even come into that equation, but somehow, they do, and have, and everyone involved suffers, except for those who know exactly what they are doing and are the one's causing the damage when they cash out.
    Crypto anything is an industry begging to be more regulated, should be just like stock markets or gambling casinos maybe.

    During the Superbowl some company's ad offered a free wallet with $25 in crypto which saw it's web site crash from the huge number of fools rushing to sign up to part with their money.

    A couple of months ago my normally practical daughter told me she "invested" $50 in some junk crypto and it had already "appreciated" to $65 or something.

    I asked her who she had her wallet with and she said, "wallet? I dunno."

    Went down hill from there, I asked her to please stop doing this until she /we had a chance to do more investigation. (Her fiance was chomping at the bit to "invest" a couple thousand into it.)

    I sure hope they listened....

     :# 
    The thing is there are platforms that let you buy crypto without having a true wallet. For example PayPal let's you buy crypto. The problem is,  in some cases you can buy crypto but you can't sell it. In the case of PayPal you can't trade it or spend it,  it's treated like a stock, and I would bet many people who buy in PayPal think that's exactly what it is. 

    Last I checked they only traded bitcoin,  litecoin, and ethereum.  

    People still see every cryptocurrency as some sort of investment,  but that's really not what a lot of them are.  Many of them are platforms with a purpose.  Some aren't even built to appreciate in value. 
    Just imagine people being able to distinguish DAI from USDT, or LINK from ATOM, hell, even L1 from L2, we could have some constructive discussions then. Unfortunately we are stuck with general ‘all crypto is a Ponzi scheme’ remarks. I wish it wasn’t called crypto currency, that last word confuses most outsiders. I won’t even get started on the world of NFTs…

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
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    It is just huge resource waste....'

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    lahnmir said:
    Kyleran said:
    Neoyoshi said:
    Looks like another crypto market bubble exploded.

    When will people learn that like the stock market, there is nothing reliable about speculative investments.

    Video games shouldn't even come into that equation, but somehow, they do, and have, and everyone involved suffers, except for those who know exactly what they are doing and are the one's causing the damage when they cash out.
    Crypto anything is an industry begging to be more regulated, should be just like stock markets or gambling casinos maybe.

    During the Superbowl some company's ad offered a free wallet with $25 in crypto which saw it's web site crash from the huge number of fools rushing to sign up to part with their money.

    A couple of months ago my normally practical daughter told me she "invested" $50 in some junk crypto and it had already "appreciated" to $65 or something.

    I asked her who she had her wallet with and she said, "wallet? I dunno."

    Went down hill from there, I asked her to please stop doing this until she /we had a chance to do more investigation. (Her fiance was chomping at the bit to "invest" a couple thousand into it.)

    I sure hope they listened....

     :# 
    The thing is there are platforms that let you buy crypto without having a true wallet. For example PayPal let's you buy crypto. The problem is,  in some cases you can buy crypto but you can't sell it. In the case of PayPal you can't trade it or spend it,  it's treated like a stock, and I would bet many people who buy in PayPal think that's exactly what it is. 

    Last I checked they only traded bitcoin,  litecoin, and ethereum.  

    People still see every cryptocurrency as some sort of investment,  but that's really not what a lot of them are.  Many of them are platforms with a purpose.  Some aren't even built to appreciate in value. 
    Just imagine people being able to distinguish DAI from USDT, or LINK from ATOM, hell, even L1 from L2, we could have some constructive discussions then. Unfortunately we are stuck with general ‘all crypto is a Ponzi scheme’ remarks. I wish it wasn’t called crypto currency, that last word confuses most outsiders. I won’t even get started on the world of NFTs…

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I have no clue what any of those are, much less be able to discuss them.

    Are you speaking another language, Greek perhaps? ;)




    maskedweaselConstantineMerus

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  • LuidenLuiden Member RarePosts: 337
    lahnmir said:
    Just imagine people being able to distinguish DAI from USDT, or LINK from ATOM, hell, even L1 from L2, we could have some constructive discussions then. Unfortunately we are stuck with general ‘all crypto is a Ponzi scheme’ remarks. I wish it wasn’t called crypto currency, that last word confuses most outsiders. I won’t even get started on the world of NFTs…

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir

    When ever you see a crypto guy start off their response with 'Just Imagine'.. that should give you pause right there.  Oh when they say 'most outsiders', giving the impression that they are in on something you aren't.. kind of makes  you want to buy in right?  hmmmm, you should have alarm bells going off.

    The reality is it's not technically a Ponzi scheme because you don't have a person guaranteeing returns on investment.  It's much more similar to a penny stock Pump and Dump scheme... which is why NFTs all of a sudden because the trendy term last year.. NFTs are being used as the Pump.. buy this worthless piece of digital art for 20,000 and let's do the biggest media/social stunts to get people to want to buy NFT items.. using their currency of course... that is how they are pumping up the value.  When the dump comes.. that's when things are going to get really bad.

    The big problem though is that it represents a negative sum game.. in that way, it's actually worse than a Ponzi scheme.  When the Dump comes and everybody realizes that the cypto they hold is basically worthless.. who are they going to sue?  There is nobody, the early sellers will be gone with all the money leaving people with nothing.  At least in a Ponzi scheme with ole Bernie people could sue him and their family.

    And to be clear, if you don't understand this stuff that's perfectly fine.. just don't fall for the hype and this trap.  Keep your money and if you want to invest it's easier than ever to invest in a valid market using valid companies.


    maskedweaselnursoKyleranWalkinGlenn
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    lahnmir said:
    Kyleran said:
    Neoyoshi said:
    Looks like another crypto market bubble exploded.

    When will people learn that like the stock market, there is nothing reliable about speculative investments.

    Video games shouldn't even come into that equation, but somehow, they do, and have, and everyone involved suffers, except for those who know exactly what they are doing and are the one's causing the damage when they cash out.
    Crypto anything is an industry begging to be more regulated, should be just like stock markets or gambling casinos maybe.

    During the Superbowl some company's ad offered a free wallet with $25 in crypto which saw it's web site crash from the huge number of fools rushing to sign up to part with their money.

    A couple of months ago my normally practical daughter told me she "invested" $50 in some junk crypto and it had already "appreciated" to $65 or something.

    I asked her who she had her wallet with and she said, "wallet? I dunno."

    Went down hill from there, I asked her to please stop doing this until she /we had a chance to do more investigation. (Her fiance was chomping at the bit to "invest" a couple thousand into it.)

    I sure hope they listened....

     :# 
    The thing is there are platforms that let you buy crypto without having a true wallet. For example PayPal let's you buy crypto. The problem is,  in some cases you can buy crypto but you can't sell it. In the case of PayPal you can't trade it or spend it,  it's treated like a stock, and I would bet many people who buy in PayPal think that's exactly what it is. 

    Last I checked they only traded bitcoin,  litecoin, and ethereum.  

    People still see every cryptocurrency as some sort of investment,  but that's really not what a lot of them are.  Many of them are platforms with a purpose.  Some aren't even built to appreciate in value. 
    Just imagine people being able to distinguish DAI from USDT, or LINK from ATOM, hell, even L1 from L2, we could have some constructive discussions then. Unfortunately we are stuck with general ‘all crypto is a Ponzi scheme’ remarks. I wish it wasn’t called crypto currency, that last word confuses most outsiders. I won’t even get started on the world of NFTs…

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    I think "crypto" ought to mean in the sense of AES and SHA.
    [Deleted User]maskedweasellahnmir
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Luiden said:
    lahnmir said:
    Just imagine people being able to distinguish DAI from USDT, or LINK from ATOM, hell, even L1 from L2, we could have some constructive discussions then. Unfortunately we are stuck with general ‘all crypto is a Ponzi scheme’ remarks. I wish it wasn’t called crypto currency, that last word confuses most outsiders. I won’t even get started on the world of NFTs…

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir

    When ever you see a crypto guy start off their response with 'Just Imagine'.. that should give you pause right there.  Oh when they say 'most outsiders', giving the impression that they are in on something you aren't.. kind of makes  you want to buy in right?  hmmmm, you should have alarm bells going off.

    The reality is it's not technically a Ponzi scheme because you don't have a person guaranteeing returns on investment.  It's much more similar to a penny stock Pump and Dump scheme... which is why NFTs all of a sudden because the trendy term last year.. NFTs are being used as the Pump.. buy this worthless piece of digital art for 20,000 and let's do the biggest media/social stunts to get people to want to buy NFT items.. using their currency of course... that is how they are pumping up the value.  When the dump comes.. that's when things are going to get really bad.

    The big problem though is that it represents a negative sum game.. in that way, it's actually worse than a Ponzi scheme.  When the Dump comes and everybody realizes that the cypto they hold is basically worthless.. who are they going to sue?  There is nobody, the early sellers will be gone with all the money leaving people with nothing.  At least in a Ponzi scheme with ole Bernie people could sue him and their family.

    And to be clear, if you don't understand this stuff that's perfectly fine.. just don't fall for the hype and this trap.  Keep your money and if you want to invest it's easier than ever to invest in a valid market using valid companies.


    That's not right either.  Your perception and understanding isn't built on the industry as a whole. 

    The only thing right about your post is that if you don't understand blockchain and crypto currencies/tokens and crypto assets, you shouldn't be buying into them.  Apart from that advice,  your understanding is based on media uproar that isn't indicative of the big picture of the tech.   
    BruceYeeKyleran[Deleted User]



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