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A public call for MJ to drop the NDA
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All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Oh shiii.... Maybe @klash2def was right? idk...
This. I prefer to browse the forum rather than participate in discussions, and when I do write something, it tends to be on meta-topics, as those interest me the most.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
That ummm... EXACTLY my point about apathy. 1-2 players in primetime on weekends...
Ummm...
That is exactly why I say they need to drop the NDA and spur discussion. What is the worst thing that happens? Only 1 person logs in next time instead of 1-2?
Instead, maybe the open and honest discussion spurs people to go check it out. Or like others have said... livestream some kind of events so people can SEE.
Apathy is worse than hate. And 1-2 players demonstrates that far more than I even imagined. I thought you would say maybe 50-100 which would be pretty horrific itself. 1-2 players... well no further discussion should even be required to suggest that a massive change of course is required.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
I mean even Mortal Online 1 had a lot of player during it's paid beta and this game is so niche for a PvP MMORPG.
It seems that no one just seem to care anymore because there was no real advancement for idk 5 years.
I believe this game would draw a lot of attention if it would be at least a bit enjoyable to play atm, even with NDA the word would spread.
But it seems that those with access don't even recommend this to anyone they know.
So it's clearly not in the state to give an at least somewhat enjoyable gameplay loop or the gameplay which can be consumed is just no fun at all.
1997 Meridian 59 'til 2019 ESO
Waiting for Camelot Unchained & Pantheon
Nobody wants your ideas and your "systems" are just copies of other systems so screw it.
That's the problem with mmo game makers. They think their ideas are the gold mine. Which they aren't.
Because no one does anything new because it's pretty much impossible.
Of course you can do the whole closed route once amazon buys you up but until then you gotta have streamers and people hyped over the game otherwise?
Naw I'll go play XXMMowithactualplayerbaseevenifthegamesucks. <----that's us. That's the internet.
Devs remind of those dudes who'd post on rpg maker forums about being ideas guys...like dudes... Probably because it's literally the same people 15 years later lol.
YT and twitch is literally the only way to build a audience for your games in these the years of 20xx.
Point is this game is like never coming out proper.
/end thread
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
From the beginning, there was not much to discuss; no question was asked and no opinion was expressed. OP made a public request to a developer. And the developer didn't answer even after a long time. That was supposed to be the "end" of the thread. But as it turns out, this thread has become a general thread for miscellaneous "stuff".
"I agree that it is not yet worth its price. But that is only a matter of time in my opinion. I have spoken to the developers; they are fully aware and open about that FSR is not yet where they want it to be."
the constant reference to the not-yet-answered interview as an addendum under earlier articles
And if they have already decided on their own custom engine, then it is also obvious to make more out of it than just a flash in the pan and immediately mothballed it again straight away.
And no, Ragnarok is not yet a proper engine demo, IMO. It simply lacks key-moments that cannot be achieved with any other engine."
scalability
real massively multiplayer
huge draw distances
server-based physics
destructible buildings desgined & constructed by players"
"I think you have misunderstood me: I didn't dispute that CSE would like to license the CU engine at some point. But I don't think CU and FSR are demos of the engine, but the other way around, that the engine is designed based on the game ideas."
"What's the argument here, other than it's creepy when someone probes someone else's posting history for no apparent reason?"
"The Steam EA release of FSR, like the development itself, was justified in part by the fact that the experience would be good for the devs. That is one justification, but not the only one. Whether it is a good reason can be debated. Some in the community disagree (and I am one of them).
The price was set with the upcoming gameplay features in mind (read the Steam-shop page!). At the moment it is definitely far too expensive.
Yes, the forum and communication in general are a problem. The only place where there is a lively exchange with the developers is the FSR Discord.
CU is similar to, but not quite as bad as FSR; both FSR forums, the one on Steam and the one on the homepage, are all but dead. The CU forum at least still gives a few signs of life.
On the other hand, both Discords, CU's and FSR's, are healthy compared to the forums ofc. Just to put my statement in perspective."
"No. Just to be very clear: That's a "personal" issue called scheduling conflict. If the test were regularly held on other weekdays, I would easily have ten times the number of hours."
"Are you perhaps annoyed that I have not introduced myself to you? Are you upset that I re-read my posts before posting? Or do you not like that I share my knowledge as a fan in a subforum specifically for the game I am a fan of? Are you going to harass me until I stop writing positively about a game you obviously don't like?
Like I said, I don't understand why you're digging into my posting history, other than that you want to come across as pretty creepy."
"I can't tell you exactly how many you will run into, but there is a good chance you will find one or two.
So not exactly a ghost town, but almost tbh.
@Giarclen has explained it perfectly. Thank you."
"This. I prefer to browse the forum rather than participate in discussions, and when I do write something, it tends to be on meta-topics, as those interest me the most.
And yes, I'm a huge CU fanboy and know quite a bit about the development since I subscribe to all the official channels and read every newsletter. I mean, that's what fanboys do, right?
@BruceYee it would be nice if you didn't try to drag me into any drama. Thank you."
"If you want to call that apathy, be my guest.
But there is, as far as I can see, a small community of dedicated testers who, in addition to beta testing on the weekends, also use the irregular IT tests to find bugs, etc. There are always new posts in the forum about their findings.
Just to be clear: I didn't say there were ONLY 1-2 testers; I said that if @Slapshot1188 logs in NOW (i.e., at the time he asked), he's likely to run into 1-2 people who are online."
"Over the years, a certain fatigue has set in. But when the next big milestone is reached (the new RvR map and the first gameplay loops), I'm sure many will stop by again.
The buildings may look like copies from Minecraft, but they can be destroyed block by block and physically collapse "correctly" (thanks to NVIDIA's PhysX).
And the fact that CU wants to impress with its graphics is new to me. From the beginning, CSE has used models with fewer polygons to realize its vision of huge battlefields."
"From the beginning, there was not much to discuss; no question was asked and no opinion was expressed. OP made a public request to a developer. And the developer didn't answer even after a long time. That was supposed to be the "end" of the thread. But as it turns out, this thread has become a general thread for miscellaneous "stuff."
What "fan" DEFENDS FSR + MJ then responds EXACTLY the same way MJ in literally every forum back & forth he's ever done? NONE. It's fkin HIM guise..