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Interview: Creator Of Ultima Online's Next MMO Leverages Blockchain and NFTs To Allow For Real Owner

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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    Amazing, the creator of one of the first good RPG games has now gone into virtual land speculation.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    olepi said:
    Amazing, the creator of one of the first good RPG games has now gone into virtual land speculation.
    Oh no, SotA has virtual land speculation in spades, definitely not Richard's first rodeo in this regard.
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  • MensurMensur Member EpicPosts: 1,531
    I wish I could be inside his head now and imagine the vision. SOTA 2
    Kyleran

    mmorpg junkie since 1999



  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,585
    Kyleran said:
    olepi said:
    Amazing, the creator of one of the first good RPG games has now gone into virtual land speculation.
    Oh no, SotA has virtual land speculation in spades, definitely not Richard's first rodeo in this regard.
    I'd also say that HE is not into virtual land speculation either.  HE personally is into serving as a carnival barker trying to lure in customers for his "business".  I do not think the product matters in the least at this point.

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  • DigDuggyDigDuggy Member RarePosts: 694
    Sensai said:
    Qbertq said:
    I think we need to face facts.  NFTs, digital currency, digital land..... Is here and it is gonna become more and more prevalent.  We can hide our heads in the sand, we can rail against the machine, and we can fight for our right to live in the 80s 90s and 10s.

    In the end younger folk are gonna leverage all this and have great adventures.  Meanwhile the ultima generation hates anything past early wow and enjoys wallowing in that era and not enjoying new adventures.  They were the neckbeards.  However ne,them, don't be superior.  Your starting to sound like the ultima gen.

    I don't know how it's gonna turn out.  I will probably put a bit of coin into it and hope.  Plus it'll be a bit of a sendoff.  I doubt the have too many more major projects left.  They've left me with many good memories, so it's the least I can do.

    I give it a 550.  Blockchain is here.  Suck it up!
     
    First, the future legality/regulation of crypto is very much in the air.  China and the EU have at least suggested that they are going to take an aggressive stance.  So while it does seem like the shit ball is going to keep rolling downhill and pick up speed, the end result is far from certain.

    Second, "great adventures"?  I highly doubt these games are going to have any adventures outside of the gambling component that can already be found in sports book betting and online poker.

    Lastly,  if it means I don't automatically accept whatever piece of crap that comes out that spends more on voice overs, skins and cash shop items than actual gameplay, I am proud to be a card carrying member of the Ultima generation.  And while I know it's trendy to label anyone who disagrees with your enlightened position as hateful,  some of us just don't settle for lack of polish, quality and content.  Just because there is crap on the table doesn't mean you have to eat it.
    Crypto is here to stay.  The horse is out of the barn and they aren't gonna be able to stop it.  I agree` that you shouldn't accept any piece of crap.  I'm not saying that you need to accept this.  I said I only give it a 50/50.  I was more referencing those who discount some of the virtual ownership aspects that are gonna be ever increasing part of our lives.  I totally agree that you've gotta decide where and when.  I'm just of the opinion that a blanket 'ban' on this aspect that I, me, myself think that are a fact ``of life coming at us at rapid speed.

    maskedweaselTacticalZombeh
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Qbertq said:
    Sensai said:
    Qbertq said:
    I think we need to face facts.  NFTs, digital currency, digital land..... Is here and it is gonna become more and more prevalent.  We can hide our heads in the sand, we can rail against the machine, and we can fight for our right to live in the 80s 90s and 10s.

    In the end younger folk are gonna leverage all this and have great adventures.  Meanwhile the ultima generation hates anything past early wow and enjoys wallowing in that era and not enjoying new adventures.  They were the neckbeards.  However ne,them, don't be superior.  Your starting to sound like the ultima gen.

    I don't know how it's gonna turn out.  I will probably put a bit of coin into it and hope.  Plus it'll be a bit of a sendoff.  I doubt the have too many more major projects left.  They've left me with many good memories, so it's the least I can do.

    I give it a 550.  Blockchain is here.  Suck it up!
     
    First, the future legality/regulation of crypto is very much in the air.  China and the EU have at least suggested that they are going to take an aggressive stance.  So while it does seem like the shit ball is going to keep rolling downhill and pick up speed, the end result is far from certain.

    Second, "great adventures"?  I highly doubt these games are going to have any adventures outside of the gambling component that can already be found in sports book betting and online poker.

    Lastly,  if it means I don't automatically accept whatever piece of crap that comes out that spends more on voice overs, skins and cash shop items than actual gameplay, I am proud to be a card carrying member of the Ultima generation.  And while I know it's trendy to label anyone who disagrees with your enlightened position as hateful,  some of us just don't settle for lack of polish, quality and content.  Just because there is crap on the table doesn't mean you have to eat it.
    Crypto is here to stay.  The horse is out of the barn and they aren't gonna be able to stop it.  
    Of course it's here to stay, traditional havens such Swiss Banks and remote  island nations aren't nearly as attractive as (mostly) anonymous crypto for rich people (including many in government) to hide their money from the tax man.


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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Qbertq said:
    Sensai said:
    Qbertq said:
    I think we need to face facts.  NFTs, digital currency, digital land..... Is here and it is gonna become more and more prevalent.  We can hide our heads in the sand, we can rail against the machine, and we can fight for our right to live in the 80s 90s and 10s.

    In the end younger folk are gonna leverage all this and have great adventures.  Meanwhile the ultima generation hates anything past early wow and enjoys wallowing in that era and not enjoying new adventures.  They were the neckbeards.  However ne,them, don't be superior.  Your starting to sound like the ultima gen.

    I don't know how it's gonna turn out.  I will probably put a bit of coin into it and hope.  Plus it'll be a bit of a sendoff.  I doubt the have too many more major projects left.  They've left me with many good memories, so it's the least I can do.

    I give it a 550.  Blockchain is here.  Suck it up!
     
    First, the future legality/regulation of crypto is very much in the air.  China and the EU have at least suggested that they are going to take an aggressive stance.  So while it does seem like the shit ball is going to keep rolling downhill and pick up speed, the end result is far from certain.

    Second, "great adventures"?  I highly doubt these games are going to have any adventures outside of the gambling component that can already be found in sports book betting and online poker.

    Lastly,  if it means I don't automatically accept whatever piece of crap that comes out that spends more on voice overs, skins and cash shop items than actual gameplay, I am proud to be a card carrying member of the Ultima generation.  And while I know it's trendy to label anyone who disagrees with your enlightened position as hateful,  some of us just don't settle for lack of polish, quality and content.  Just because there is crap on the table doesn't mean you have to eat it.
    Crypto is here to stay.  The horse is out of the barn and they aren't gonna be able to stop it.  I agree` that you shouldn't accept any piece of crap.  I'm not saying that you need to accept this.  I said I only give it a 50/50.  I was more referencing those who discount some of the virtual ownership aspects that are gonna be ever increasing part of our lives.  I totally agree that you've gotta decide where and when.  I'm just of the opinion that a blanket 'ban' on this aspect that I, me, myself think that are a fact ``of life coming at us at rapid speed.


    While crypto may be here to stay, there's no real reason for me to look for it in a game.  There are other, more appropriate avenues for speculative investments and crypto may turn out to be a fine one once all the legal/tax implications are sorted out.  I just don't want speculative investments to be a major part of my recreational games.

    The reason for adding the investment has little to do with the actual game.  So far, it doesn't improve the game, or add features unique to the blockchain technology.  It is only being used as a means for monetization.  Adding a real world speculative value to a virtual asset doesn't have any appeal to me.

    Some financial advisors trying to jump on the bandwagon have started recommending some cryptocurrencies for investments.  None of the financial advisors have recommended any game based on cryptocurrencies to date that I know of.

    Right now, the rush to cryptocurrencies in games is more of a 'Get On the Bandwagon Before You're Left Behind' thing.  Just an advanced form of FOMO.  I'm not worried about Missing Out.  I don't expect to need to worry about how to survive on Europa, or journey to Alpha Centauri; I won't live that long.  If I am going to worry about Missing anything, it's the next steps of humanity moving into space.

    I don't need cryptocurrencies in my life, and I don't want them in my games.



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  • SarlaSarla Member UncommonPosts: 401


    I hate this new age of MMO bullshit. I really do.



    Well said
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,585
    Torval said:
    Mendel said:
    While crypto may be here to stay, there's no real reason for me to look for it in a game.  There are other, more appropriate avenues for speculative investments and crypto may turn out to be a fine one once all the legal/tax implications are sorted out.  I just don't want speculative investments to be a major part of my recreational games.

    The reason for adding the investment has little to do with the actual game.  So far, it doesn't improve the game, or add features unique to the blockchain technology.  It is only being used as a means for monetization.  Adding a real world speculative value to a virtual asset doesn't have any appeal to me.

    Some financial advisors trying to jump on the bandwagon have started recommending some cryptocurrencies for investments.  None of the financial advisors have recommended any game based on cryptocurrencies to date that I know of.

    Right now, the rush to cryptocurrencies in games is more of a 'Get On the Bandwagon Before You're Left Behind' thing.  Just an advanced form of FOMO.  I'm not worried about Missing Out.  I don't expect to need to worry about how to survive on Europa, or journey to Alpha Centauri; I won't live that long.  If I am going to worry about Missing anything, it's the next steps of humanity moving into space.

    I don't need cryptocurrencies in my life, and I don't want them in my games.

    To that point even if a game is good, it is worth avoiding altogether until proper regulations are in place. Since this is the entertainment industry that may never happen.

    Just ask yourself what would Elon do. :lol:
    Easy.  Elon would post a meme making fun of the ratings agency, the SEC. the IRS and a random US Senator. He would then Tweet a poll asking if company X was evil, while simultaneously purchasing 10% of the company.  He would accept a board seat but then back out when they tried to get him to sign a document limiting further share purchases.

    After poking fun at the company, he would make a bid to buy out all shareholders at a 50% premium.   When that was turned down he would announce the creation of 420 Studios which he is self funding. All sales to be made in Dogecoin.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Mendel said:
    Qbertq said:
    Sensai said:
    Qbertq said:
    I think we need to face facts.  NFTs, digital currency, digital land..... Is here and it is gonna become more and more prevalent.  We can hide our heads in the sand, we can rail against the machine, and we can fight for our right to live in the 80s 90s and 10s.

    In the end younger folk are gonna leverage all this and have great adventures.  Meanwhile the ultima generation hates anything past early wow and enjoys wallowing in that era and not enjoying new adventures.  They were the neckbeards.  However ne,them, don't be superior.  Your starting to sound like the ultima gen.

    I don't know how it's gonna turn out.  I will probably put a bit of coin into it and hope.  Plus it'll be a bit of a sendoff.  I doubt the have too many more major projects left.  They've left me with many good memories, so it's the least I can do.

    I give it a 550.  Blockchain is here.  Suck it up!
     
    First, the future legality/regulation of crypto is very much in the air.  China and the EU have at least suggested that they are going to take an aggressive stance.  So while it does seem like the shit ball is going to keep rolling downhill and pick up speed, the end result is far from certain.

    Second, "great adventures"?  I highly doubt these games are going to have any adventures outside of the gambling component that can already be found in sports book betting and online poker.

    Lastly,  if it means I don't automatically accept whatever piece of crap that comes out that spends more on voice overs, skins and cash shop items than actual gameplay, I am proud to be a card carrying member of the Ultima generation.  And while I know it's trendy to label anyone who disagrees with your enlightened position as hateful,  some of us just don't settle for lack of polish, quality and content.  Just because there is crap on the table doesn't mean you have to eat it.
    Crypto is here to stay.  The horse is out of the barn and they aren't gonna be able to stop it.  I agree` that you shouldn't accept any piece of crap.  I'm not saying that you need to accept this.  I said I only give it a 50/50.  I was more referencing those who discount some of the virtual ownership aspects that are gonna be ever increasing part of our lives.  I totally agree that you've gotta decide where and when.  I'm just of the opinion that a blanket 'ban' on this aspect that I, me, myself think that are a fact ``of life coming at us at rapid speed.


    While crypto may be here to stay, there's no real reason for me to look for it in a game.  There are other, more appropriate avenues for speculative investments and crypto may turn out to be a fine one once all the legal/tax implications are sorted out.  I just don't want speculative investments to be a major part of my recreational games.

    The reason for adding the investment has little to do with the actual game.  So far, it doesn't improve the game, or add features unique to the blockchain technology.  It is only being used as a means for monetization.  Adding a real world speculative value to a virtual asset doesn't have any appeal to me.

    Some financial advisors trying to jump on the bandwagon have started recommending some cryptocurrencies for investments.  None of the financial advisors have recommended any game based on cryptocurrencies to date that I know of.

    Right now, the rush to cryptocurrencies in games is more of a 'Get On the Bandwagon Before You're Left Behind' thing.  Just an advanced form of FOMO.  I'm not worried about Missing Out.  I don't expect to need to worry about how to survive on Europa, or journey to Alpha Centauri; I won't live that long.  If I am going to worry about Missing anything, it's the next steps of humanity moving into space.

    I don't need cryptocurrencies in my life, and I don't want them in my games.



    There's no reason for you to look for it in a game, but there's also no reason a game needs to allow blockchain to run as a speculative investment either.  The fact that 'speculative investment' is a term used within blockchain gaming is part of the problem, and it won't actually be cured by regulation, and it won't be cured by taxation, and it won't be cured by "voting with your wallet" (because 'your' wallet isn't involved with speculative investing in gaming anyways). 

    The only way things will work is letting the market weed out the speculative investors when the correction hits, and it's been hitting pretty hard across the board. There are still many people who buy NFT's for crazy amounts of money, but if those NFT's don't have utility, there's no reason to even consider it as something with lasting appeal. 

    Blockchain games generally make use of the technology so the assets have utility. Now functional utility is key, items need to be traded. Holding blockchain assets in a game isn't what's going to make developers money, they need people to not only trade the assets but to burn some of them too. If there's no path for a drain, assets just build and there's no use, it kills the utility of it, so developers need to build a reason to burn assets within the game. 


    Anyways, the conversation is still a little sad to me. There's little uproar about account selling and games like second life and entropia, but the second you bring an acronym into the conversation, everyone loses their mind. 

    It could all just be "this game isn't for me", but instead there's a fear that if we accept this, then we're saying it's okay and we'll have to accept it in every game. 

    Newsflash, we don't get a say. Developers say we do, but they've proven that when it comes to the players feelings and systems like gacha and lootboxes, they don't care. If they want to entertain NFT's they're going to do it, and just like every MMO going free to play with a cash shop, we can say we hate it, but eventually it's just another day in MMO Land.
    eoloe



  • eoloeeoloe Member RarePosts: 864
    Mendel said:
    Qbertq said:
    Sensai said:
    Qbertq said:
    I think we need to face facts.  NFTs, digital currency, digital land..... Is here and it is gonna become more and more prevalent.  We can hide our heads in the sand, we can rail against the machine, and we can fight for our right to live in the 80s 90s and 10s.

    In the end younger folk are gonna leverage all this and have great adventures.  Meanwhile the ultima generation hates anything past early wow and enjoys wallowing in that era and not enjoying new adventures.  They were the neckbeards.  However ne,them, don't be superior.  Your starting to sound like the ultima gen.

    I don't know how it's gonna turn out.  I will probably put a bit of coin into it and hope.  Plus it'll be a bit of a sendoff.  I doubt the have too many more major projects left.  They've left me with many good memories, so it's the least I can do.

    I give it a 550.  Blockchain is here.  Suck it up!
     
    First, the future legality/regulation of crypto is very much in the air.  China and the EU have at least suggested that they are going to take an aggressive stance.  So while it does seem like the shit ball is going to keep rolling downhill and pick up speed, the end result is far from certain.

    Second, "great adventures"?  I highly doubt these games are going to have any adventures outside of the gambling component that can already be found in sports book betting and online poker.

    Lastly,  if it means I don't automatically accept whatever piece of crap that comes out that spends more on voice overs, skins and cash shop items than actual gameplay, I am proud to be a card carrying member of the Ultima generation.  And while I know it's trendy to label anyone who disagrees with your enlightened position as hateful,  some of us just don't settle for lack of polish, quality and content.  Just because there is crap on the table doesn't mean you have to eat it.
    Crypto is here to stay.  The horse is out of the barn and they aren't gonna be able to stop it.  I agree` that you shouldn't accept any piece of crap.  I'm not saying that you need to accept this.  I said I only give it a 50/50.  I was more referencing those who discount some of the virtual ownership aspects that are gonna be ever increasing part of our lives.  I totally agree that you've gotta decide where and when.  I'm just of the opinion that a blanket 'ban' on this aspect that I, me, myself think that are a fact ``of life coming at us at rapid speed.


    While crypto may be here to stay, there's no real reason for me to look for it in a game.  There are other, more appropriate avenues for speculative investments and crypto may turn out to be a fine one once all the legal/tax implications are sorted out.  I just don't want speculative investments to be a major part of my recreational games.

    The reason for adding the investment has little to do with the actual game.  So far, it doesn't improve the game, or add features unique to the blockchain technology.  It is only being used as a means for monetization.  Adding a real world speculative value to a virtual asset doesn't have any appeal to me.

    Some financial advisors trying to jump on the bandwagon have started recommending some cryptocurrencies for investments.  None of the financial advisors have recommended any game based on cryptocurrencies to date that I know of.

    Right now, the rush to cryptocurrencies in games is more of a 'Get On the Bandwagon Before You're Left Behind' thing.  Just an advanced form of FOMO.  I'm not worried about Missing Out.  I don't expect to need to worry about how to survive on Europa, or journey to Alpha Centauri; I won't live that long.  If I am going to worry about Missing anything, it's the next steps of humanity moving into space.

    I don't need cryptocurrencies in my life, and I don't want them in my games.



    There's no reason for you to look for it in a game, but there's also no reason a game needs to allow blockchain to run as a speculative investment either.  The fact that 'speculative investment' is a term used within blockchain gaming is part of the problem, and it won't actually be cured by regulation, and it won't be cured by taxation, and it won't be cured by "voting with your wallet" (because 'your' wallet isn't involved with speculative investing in gaming anyways). 

    The only way things will work is letting the market weed out the speculative investors when the correction hits, and it's been hitting pretty hard across the board. There are still many people who buy NFT's for crazy amounts of money, but if those NFT's don't have utility, there's no reason to even consider it as something with lasting appeal. 

    Blockchain games generally make use of the technology so the assets have utility. Now functional utility is key, items need to be traded. Holding blockchain assets in a game isn't what's going to make developers money, they need people to not only trade the assets but to burn some of them too. If there's no path for a drain, assets just build and there's no use, it kills the utility of it, so developers need to build a reason to burn assets within the game. 


    Anyways, the conversation is still a little sad to me. There's little uproar about account selling and games like second life and entropia, but the second you bring an acronym into the conversation, everyone loses their mind. 

    It could all just be "this game isn't for me", but instead there's a fear that if we accept this, then we're saying it's okay and we'll have to accept it in every game. 

    Newsflash, we don't get a say. Developers say we do, but they've proven that when it comes to the players feelings and systems like gacha and lootboxes, they don't care. If they want to entertain NFT's they're going to do it, and just like every MMO going free to play with a cash shop, we can say we hate it, but eventually it's just another day in MMO Land.

    I like to bash the NFT topic because we can witness already bad business practices emerging from them.

    But I agree with you though. The tech is fine and there could be potentially good implementations of it.
    It is like in F2P, you have bad cash shops and you have acceptable ones.

    Moreover, I do like the initial idea of "owning" something in a digital world. The problem is that I am not sure that NFTs bring anything really new here, since you can not transfer anything from a game to another.

    You mention Entropia. Yes Entropia did the P2E thingy and did not need NFTs for it.

    And what do you really *own* when, as we have seen recently, the game shuts down, your stuff that you supposedly own becomes a dead weight or disappears. I don't see here what it brings new compared to the old model.
    maskedweaselTacticalZombeh
  • OldKingLogOldKingLog Member RarePosts: 600
    Wargfoot said:
    Let me put it this way:

    Imagine a game like checkers.
    I know, pretty boring game isn't it?
    You have limited moves, entirely forced PvP, the title is hardly worth downloading.

    Now imagine if the location of your pieces was stored in blockchain!

    OMG, MIND BLOWING ISN'T IT?

    I'm sure you see the possibilities now.
    THAT, my skeptical friend, is what BLOCKCHAIN DOES FOR GAMING.

    Oh man, that reminded me of the "Enhancement Smoker" scene from the film Half-Baked. "But have you ever looked at the back of a dollar bill ... ON WEED!?" This technology adds fuck all to a gaming experience except to further prey on consumer avarice. With the added benefit of making peoples shinny gaming shit a giant target for hackers. looters, and scammers. .... Oh My.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Torval said:
    Mendel said:
    While crypto may be here to stay, there's no real reason for me to look for it in a game.  There are other, more appropriate avenues for speculative investments and crypto may turn out to be a fine one once all the legal/tax implications are sorted out.  I just don't want speculative investments to be a major part of my recreational games.

    The reason for adding the investment has little to do with the actual game.  So far, it doesn't improve the game, or add features unique to the blockchain technology.  It is only being used as a means for monetization.  Adding a real world speculative value to a virtual asset doesn't have any appeal to me.

    Some financial advisors trying to jump on the bandwagon have started recommending some cryptocurrencies for investments.  None of the financial advisors have recommended any game based on cryptocurrencies to date that I know of.

    Right now, the rush to cryptocurrencies in games is more of a 'Get On the Bandwagon Before You're Left Behind' thing.  Just an advanced form of FOMO.  I'm not worried about Missing Out.  I don't expect to need to worry about how to survive on Europa, or journey to Alpha Centauri; I won't live that long.  If I am going to worry about Missing anything, it's the next steps of humanity moving into space.

    I don't need cryptocurrencies in my life, and I don't want them in my games.

    To that point even if a game is good, it is worth avoiding altogether until proper regulations are in place. Since this is the entertainment industry that may never happen.

    Just ask yourself what would Elon do. :lol:
    Easy.  Elon would post a meme making fun of the ratings agency, the SEC. the IRS and a random US Senator. He would then Tweet a poll asking if company X was evil, while simultaneously purchasing 10% of the company.  He would accept a board seat but then back out when they tried to get him to sign a document limiting further share purchases.

    After poking fun at the company, he would make a bid to buy out all shareholders at a 50% premium.   When that was turned down he would announce the creation of 420 Studios which he is self funding. All sales to be made in Dogecoin.

    I think that he's trying to either get control of Twitter or else scare left-wingers into buying back the shares of Twitter that he quietly bought at a much higher price than he paid in a desperate attempt at making sure that Twitter remains a left-wing company.  And I suspect that he'd be satisfied with either outcome.
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,585
    Quizzical said:
    Torval said:
    Mendel said:
    While crypto may be here to stay, there's no real reason for me to look for it in a game.  There are other, more appropriate avenues for speculative investments and crypto may turn out to be a fine one once all the legal/tax implications are sorted out.  I just don't want speculative investments to be a major part of my recreational games.

    The reason for adding the investment has little to do with the actual game.  So far, it doesn't improve the game, or add features unique to the blockchain technology.  It is only being used as a means for monetization.  Adding a real world speculative value to a virtual asset doesn't have any appeal to me.

    Some financial advisors trying to jump on the bandwagon have started recommending some cryptocurrencies for investments.  None of the financial advisors have recommended any game based on cryptocurrencies to date that I know of.

    Right now, the rush to cryptocurrencies in games is more of a 'Get On the Bandwagon Before You're Left Behind' thing.  Just an advanced form of FOMO.  I'm not worried about Missing Out.  I don't expect to need to worry about how to survive on Europa, or journey to Alpha Centauri; I won't live that long.  If I am going to worry about Missing anything, it's the next steps of humanity moving into space.

    I don't need cryptocurrencies in my life, and I don't want them in my games.

    To that point even if a game is good, it is worth avoiding altogether until proper regulations are in place. Since this is the entertainment industry that may never happen.

    Just ask yourself what would Elon do. :lol:
    Easy.  Elon would post a meme making fun of the ratings agency, the SEC. the IRS and a random US Senator. He would then Tweet a poll asking if company X was evil, while simultaneously purchasing 10% of the company.  He would accept a board seat but then back out when they tried to get him to sign a document limiting further share purchases.

    After poking fun at the company, he would make a bid to buy out all shareholders at a 50% premium.   When that was turned down he would announce the creation of 420 Studios which he is self funding. All sales to be made in Dogecoin.

    I think that he's trying to either get control of Twitter or else scare left-wingers into buying back the shares of Twitter that he quietly bought at a much higher price than he paid in a desperate attempt at making sure that Twitter remains a left-wing company.  And I suspect that he'd be satisfied with either outcome.
    I think there is a 3rd step...  Where he cashes out with that nice bump and announces his own social media platform.


    I think he'd be happy if they sold it to him, but if not he will start his own competitor

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  • EmeraqEmeraq Member UncommonPosts: 1,063
    Entertaining posts as expected, always fun to read some RG bashing... Wish I had something funny to add but think everyone else has already covered everything.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Emeraq said:
    Entertaining posts as expected, always fun to read some RG bashing... Wish I had something funny to add but think everyone else has already covered everything.
    You have to get up early with this lot.
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  • McCordRMMcCordRM Member UncommonPosts: 9
    Makes me sad. I grew up playing ALL the Ultima games; they even prompted my PC upgrades as they came out since my computer had to get better to play them. (Sound card for Ultima 7, baby!). I even went down to Austin for a jousting event on his property and got to meet him.

    But now... he's really lost touch with his roots. He's not about making games, anymore. Instead, he's the old guy trying to make a buck by staying "Hip" with the kids and it's failing badly.  :(
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  • NotocoaoNotocoao Newbie CommonPosts: 1
    His last promise was not fulfilled. He made SOTA's money and left immediately. Now he wants to buy and sell land in all kinds of ways. How much enthusiasm does he have left besides money?
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    Notocoao said:
    His last promise was not fulfilled. He made SOTA's money and left immediately. Now he wants to buy and sell land in all kinds of ways. How much enthusiasm does he have left besides money?
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  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460
    edited April 2022
    McCordRM said:
    Makes me sad. I grew up playing ALL the Ultima games; they even prompted my PC upgrades as they came out since my computer had to get better to play them. (Sound card for Ultima 7, baby!). I even went down to Austin for a jousting event on his property and got to meet him.

    But now... he's really lost touch with his roots. He's not about making games, anymore. Instead, he's the old guy trying to make a buck by staying "Hip" with the kids and it's failing badly.  :(

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    Being a huge RG  fan ( I still have my floppy of Alkabeth) that game in a sandwich bag with instructions typed on an index card.  And a huge Ultima fan , played all the single players thru and still currently playing UO (26 years) now ..

    This new venture is clear and shameless money grab and not worthy of anyone's energy..
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  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    You undersell it my friend...

    Now that we have the location of MY pieces in blockchain... I own that.. and I can now SELL those pieces and locations to someone else!!!!

    Imagine that I am a Grandmaster who is a few moves from a win... I can sell my position to someone, enabling that person to WIN!  

    This is truly revolutionary.

    How is this any different than buying an account or virtual goods just like we've been doing for the past 25 years?  To be clear, I am not saying you are wrong. I do not quite get this NFT stuff, so I am asking what makes this different. 
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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,674
    edited April 2022
    I honestly never liked this guy the moment he was trying to profit off his mother's death. Selling locks of his own hair and vials of his own blood, definitely sounds like someone with a god complex, so I'll stay far far away from that.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    LynxJSA said:
    You undersell it my friend...

    Now that we have the location of MY pieces in blockchain... I own that.. and I can now SELL those pieces and locations to someone else!!!!

    Imagine that I am a Grandmaster who is a few moves from a win... I can sell my position to someone, enabling that person to WIN!  

    This is truly revolutionary.

    How is this any different than buying an account or virtual goods just like we've been doing for the past 25 years?  To be clear, I am not saying you are wrong. I do not quite get this NFT stuff, so I am asking what makes this different. 
    While quite a bit more subtle than his norm, Slap was being facetious in this narrative.




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