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Lost Ark Beginning a New Large Scale Bot Ban Next Week

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited June 2022 in News & Features Discussion

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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    This will be interesting. Should be lots of "I was banned but I never played the game" threads incoming.
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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    I never played the game but I wasn't banned. :)
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    I'm starting to run out of things to do, so being banned wouldn't be a big deal, probably get me a bunch of comp stuff.
    Tiller

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  • JakobmillerJakobmiller Member RarePosts: 687
    Too little too late.
    Roin
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449
    edited June 2022
    lol


    https://steamcommunity.com/app/1599340/discussions/0/3415431214860220317/

    https://steamcommunity.com/app/1599340/discussions/0/3415430580679873490/
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    I hope this won't turn out to be a "one bot banned, two more appear" situation.



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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    There will be blood.
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  • ReaperUkReaperUk Member UncommonPosts: 760
    I believe Steam verification only requires any purchase to have been made via Steam. It doesn't have to be for Lost Ark.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Stizzled said:
    Probably be about like the last bot ban wave they had. Where their concurrent numbers went down to 150k and then over the next couple days just ballooned right back up to 800k.

    Never seen a game with a bot problem so obvious to the outside observer.
    Obvious perhaps, impactful to other players, not so much.


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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,450
    Didn't they do a really big ban wave of bots already? And they came right back.


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  • NeoyoshiNeoyoshi Member RarePosts: 1,450
    edited June 2022

    Stizzled said:

    Probably be about like the last bot ban wave they had. Where their concurrent numbers went down to 150k and then over the next couple days just ballooned right back up to 800k.



    Never seen a game with a bot problem so obvious to the outside observer.



    It reminds me a lot of what ArcheAge went through; Trion could never get a real handle on the bots- they'd do a big ban wave and they'd come right back.

    I feel like SquareEnix with FFXIV has the right idea on bot/RMT ban-waves; they do one once a week; and it seems to do the job.

    Doing one big massive ban wave every so often just doesn't seem to work. smaller ban waves more frequently has proven to be the right idea, but almost no one does it the way SquareEnix does.
    Roin


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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    edited June 2022
    Torval said:
    There were some funny ones, but some of the "genuine" ones are on a level with "my dog ate my homework", it was like being back at school. :)

    But naturally you will have genuine cases where players who should not be banned are, there is no way round that and the fans have to realise it is going to happen for the game to get past this.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Scot said:
    Torval said:
    There were some funny ones, but some of the "genuine" ones are on a level with "my dog ate my homework", it was like being back at school. :)

    But naturally you will have genuine cases where players who should not be banned are, there is no way round that and the fans have to realise it is going to happen for the game to get past this.
    Considering perhaps up to 85% or more bots are zerkers, with similar being sorcs it narrows the devs search parameters quite a bit.



    ScotRoin

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  • WarlyxWarlyx Member EpicPosts: 3,367
    edited June 2022
    yeah announce it so bots can sell all the gold cheaper before they are banned

    this how hacks works:

    https://forums.playlostark.com/t/just-been-linked-this-i-hope-its-fake/411855/35
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050
    edited June 2022
    I saw an official reply on the official forums that the bans are for 3 days.  That's pretty pointless.

    I usually can find some enjoyment in watching train wrecks from a distance.  but in this case their (Smilegate and AGS) incompetence is just frustrating.  SE blocked the sales of FF14 in addition to locking servers and all they were dealing with was huge queues and not enough servers.  LA has much bigger issues in this regard and they refuse to take the necessary steps to clean up and lock servers.  They also refuse to permaban RMTers.

    As a gamer I want to see game devs find real solutions to botting and RMTers.
    Scot
  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    FrodoFragins said:
    I saw an official reply on the official forums that the bans are for 3 days.  That's pretty pointless.

    Three days?  That's just giving the bots a long weekend.






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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    edited June 2022
    I saw an official reply on the official forums that the bans are for 3 days.  That's pretty pointless.

    I usually can find some enjoyment in watching train wrecks from a distance.  but in this case their (Smilegate and AGS) incompetence is just frustrating.  SE blocked the sales of FF14 in addition to locking servers and all they were dealing with was huge queues and not enough servers.  LA has much bigger issues in this regard and they refuse to take the necessary steps to clean up and lock servers.  They also refuse to permaban RMTers.

    As a gamer I want to see game devs find real solutions to botting and RMTers.
    AGS doesn't have a good track record, hard to say how much this can be laid at their door, but for me anything they now do has a question mark over it.
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