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After A Crash, How Do You Cope With MMORPG Burnout?

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  • ultimateduckultimateduck Member EpicPosts: 1,306
    You're in that tough place of your job being your hobby. Burnout hit's you in a lot more places than most other people and the repercussions are much more severe.

    I don't think I'm special in that I often focus more on a non-video game hobby when I get burnt out. They generally revolve around finishing house projects, focusing on my BJJ training or volunteering for auto charities.

    Either that or I switch focus to a completely different type of game such as an ARPG like Diablo 2 Resurrected, an eSport shooter like Overwatch, a survival game like Valheim or Subnautica or a VR title like No Mans Sky or Zenith.

    Truth be told, I've been on MMORPG burnout ever since the population of DAoC became too low to really have fun, which has been a few years now.
    TheDalaiBombaScotmysticmouse
  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642
    edited June 2022
    I try to avoid the crash by having a healthy mix of FPS, MOBAs, and MMOs.
    Octagon7711
  • TheDalaiBombaTheDalaiBomba Member EpicPosts: 1,493
    You're in that tough place of your job being your hobby. Burnout hit's you in a lot more places than most other people and the repercussions are much more severe.

    I don't think I'm special in that I often focus more on a non-video game hobby when I get burnt out. They generally revolve around finishing house projects, focusing on my BJJ training or volunteering for auto charities.

    Either that or I switch focus to a completely different type of game such as an ARPG like Diablo 2 Resurrected, an eSport shooter like Overwatch, a survival game like Valheim or Subnautica or a VR title like No Mans Sky or Zenith.

    Truth be told, I've been on MMORPG burnout ever since the population of DAoC became too low to really have fun, which has been a few years now.
    Usually, when I hit video game burnout, I get really fit and my house gets spick and span.
    Quizzicalultimateduck
  • VidahrVidahr Member UncommonPosts: 123
    I usually move between survival crafting and MMOs.

    I also have a lot of non-gaming hobbies like fishing, hiking, geocaching, and general outdoors-ing.

    It helps with the burnout a lot.
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    I think you just need to take a break from gaming, my longest was three months, shortest two weeks. That's enough to get the batteries recharged, I am not sure it matters what you do just as long as you do something else.
  • AngrakhanAngrakhan Member EpicPosts: 1,750
    "especially as we spend hours upon hours in our favorite virtual worlds day in and day out."

    Right there is your problem. I combat that by doing productive and rewarding things with my time. A few examples are in addition to my day job I have two businesses my wife and I started. Also, I picked up playing my bass guitar again which was a passion of mine since middle school through college. Date nights with the wife. Spend time with my kids. Grab a bite with real life friends. I could go on.

    Hours upon hours day in day out? Ain't nobody got time for that!

    I'm sure you guys will all dog pile me for saying this, but hey someone has to speak some truth in your little echo chamber you have going here. This website reminds me of a group of alcoholics bragging about your latest bender and cheering each other on in the process. You're addicted. You have a problem. This burnout is just a symptom of your brain and body begging you to stop. You should listen to it.

    Let me guess... You can quit anytime you just don't want to, you just don't want to, right?

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  • lotrlorelotrlore Managing EditorMMORPG.COM Staff, Member RarePosts: 662

    Angrakhan said:

    "especially as we spend hours upon hours in our favorite virtual worlds day in and day out."



    Right there is your problem. I combat that by doing productive and rewarding things with my time. A few examples are in addition to my day job I have two businesses my wife and I started. Also, I picked up playing my bass guitar again which was a passion of mine since middle school through college. Date nights with the wife. Spend time with my kids. Grab a bite with real life friends. I could go on.



    Hours upon hours day in day out? Ain't nobody got time for that!



    I'm sure you guys will all dog pile me for saying this, but hey someone has to speak some truth in your little echo chamber you have going here. This website reminds me of a group of alcoholics bragging about your latest bender and cheering each other on in the process. You're addicted. You have a problem. This burnout is just a symptom of your brain and body begging you to stop. You should listen to it.



    Let me guess... You can quit anytime you just don't want to, you just don't want to, right?



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    Oh I don't think you're necessarily wrong. As I've gotten older I do this less and less, personally. But I remember my younger days (I'm 35, I'm not _that_ old) where I could spend 12 hours a day wandering Skyrim or building in Minecraft with a friend. Now I do that less and less.

    Other than playing long sessions for work, the longest I've played a game in one sitting lately is 3 hours of Jedi Fallen Order last week.

    But when I did do this, the hours upon hours, day in and day out, I would find myself increasingly burnt out quickly. And honestly, and this isn't to complain about my gig - I love it - but cramming games for reviews, especially MMOs, take a toll on the enjoyment too. The all-mighty SEO gods have to be appeased and all. So that is really where this piece was coming from. My past, and the current present with the burnout I'm feeling again.

    Thank Christ for a new TMNT game.
  • DjijinDjijin Member UncommonPosts: 108
    edited June 2022
    mcrippins said:
    I try to avoid the crash by having a healthy mix of FPS, MOBAs, and MMOs.
    Exactly. Addicts keep their addiction going through the diversification of their fix.
    Kyleraneoloe
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,273
    lotrlore said:

    Angrakhan said:

    "especially as we spend hours upon hours in our favorite virtual worlds day in and day out."



    Right there is your problem. I combat that by doing productive and rewarding things with my time. A few examples are in addition to my day job I have two businesses my wife and I started. Also, I picked up playing my bass guitar again which was a passion of mine since middle school through college. Date nights with the wife. Spend time with my kids. Grab a bite with real life friends. I could go on.



    Hours upon hours day in day out? Ain't nobody got time for that!



    I'm sure you guys will all dog pile me for saying this, but hey someone has to speak some truth in your little echo chamber you have going here. This website reminds me of a group of alcoholics bragging about your latest bender and cheering each other on in the process. You're addicted. You have a problem. This burnout is just a symptom of your brain and body begging you to stop. You should listen to it.



    Let me guess... You can quit anytime you just don't want to, you just don't want to, right?



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    Oh I don't think you're necessarily wrong. As I've gotten older I do this less and less, personally. But I remember my younger days (I'm 35, I'm not _that_ old) where I could spend 12 hours a day wandering Skyrim or building in Minecraft with a friend. Now I do that less and less.

    Other than playing long sessions for work, the longest I've played a game in one sitting lately is 3 hours of Jedi Fallen Order last week.

    But when I did do this, the hours upon hours, day in and day out, I would find myself increasingly burnt out quickly. And honestly, and this isn't to complain about my gig - I love it - but cramming games for reviews, especially MMOs, take a toll on the enjoyment too. The all-mighty SEO gods have to be appeased and all. So that is really where this piece was coming from. My past, and the current present with the burnout I'm feeling again.

    Thank Christ for a new TMNT game.
    I can remember back in the nineties discussing how we wanted to be on a gaming magazine as a job. Why its not even a job its a hobby, was our staring point. But someone, I don't think me realised that if you do anything for a job it becomes work and work is no longer a hobby. I would say the same problems occur for streamers. We struggle with this as players, if you are doing reviews and so on it must be doubly a problem.
    Kyleraneoloe
  • lotrlorelotrlore Managing EditorMMORPG.COM Staff, Member RarePosts: 662
    edited June 2022
    Scot said:
    lotrlore said:

    Angrakhan said:

    "especially as we spend hours upon hours in our favorite virtual worlds day in and day out."



    Right there is your problem. I combat that by doing productive and rewarding things with my time. A few examples are in addition to my day job I have two businesses my wife and I started. Also, I picked up playing my bass guitar again which was a passion of mine since middle school through college. Date nights with the wife. Spend time with my kids. Grab a bite with real life friends. I could go on.



    Hours upon hours day in day out? Ain't nobody got time for that!



    I'm sure you guys will all dog pile me for saying this, but hey someone has to speak some truth in your little echo chamber you have going here. This website reminds me of a group of alcoholics bragging about your latest bender and cheering each other on in the process. You're addicted. You have a problem. This burnout is just a symptom of your brain and body begging you to stop. You should listen to it.



    Let me guess... You can quit anytime you just don't want to, you just don't want to, right?



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    Oh I don't think you're necessarily wrong. As I've gotten older I do this less and less, personally. But I remember my younger days (I'm 35, I'm not _that_ old) where I could spend 12 hours a day wandering Skyrim or building in Minecraft with a friend. Now I do that less and less.

    Other than playing long sessions for work, the longest I've played a game in one sitting lately is 3 hours of Jedi Fallen Order last week.

    But when I did do this, the hours upon hours, day in and day out, I would find myself increasingly burnt out quickly. And honestly, and this isn't to complain about my gig - I love it - but cramming games for reviews, especially MMOs, take a toll on the enjoyment too. The all-mighty SEO gods have to be appeased and all. So that is really where this piece was coming from. My past, and the current present with the burnout I'm feeling again.

    Thank Christ for a new TMNT game.
    I can remember back in the nineties discussing how we wanted to be on a gaming magazine as a job. Why its not even a job its a hobby, was our staring point. But someone, I don't think me realised that if you do anything for a job it becomes work and work is no longer a hobby. I would say the same problems occur for streamers. We struggle with this as players, if you are doing reviews and so on it must be doubly a problem.
    The thing that makes it more "work" than "play" is how games are covered. Because sites (like ours, MOP, IGN, ANY site) is beholden to an algorithm for traffic, oftentimes games are reviewed under crunch times. When I worked at IGN, timelines were so strict. Reviewing an MMO in two weeks is not feasible, yet that's what's expected because of that SEO window. I will note, though, that the reviews editor Dan is an absolute legend and would work with timelines to make it easier on the writer. Not many other sites would do that.

    For us here, we're more lax with that. Many of our contributors have day jobs which is why you'll see delays in the big reviews we do (such as Diablo Immortal taking three weeks when many other sites had it out in one). 

    Playing games for review is such a different animal than anything else in this industry. It is definitely not the ideal way to play games for sure, and that does take a toll. 

    Thankfully, I love this stuff, so even with the burnout I can't imagine doing much else. And I think streamers are the same, at least the ones I talk to and work with. We love the gig, the people, and the games themselves. Creating that work-life balance in games is what's difficult. 

    Throw natural burnout on top of that with anything and it's a bad mix, though. 
    Kyleran[Deleted User][Deleted User]Scot
  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,674
    edited June 2022
    Honestly, when I feel 'burnt out' on rps or even mmorpgs, I tend to jump into Smite. Just something about the game where I can play for a while and kind of 'reset' after a few days/weeks. Since the whole D:I drama, I've been seeing a lot of people posting about PoE, so I might check that out at some point, but I'll be honest, it does look a bit intimidating with their skill tree thing, especially when some days I just want to shut my brain off and just play.
  • user298user298 Member UncommonPosts: 152
    I cope the same way as most MMO players - by going to MMO-related forums and subreddits and whining about "dying genre", "evil monetization" and how "old MMOs were better and were more social because people had to spam all chat channels with same LFG texts for hours on end". /s

    In all seriousness, when I get bored with specific game (MMO or not, it doesn't matter) - I just find something else to play. Or I just do stuff not related to playing games - like watching Twitch channels (there's always someone interesting to watch) or socializing with other people both online and offline. Unless any person is suffering through clinical depression (in which case that person should seek professional medical help) - there shouldn't be any issue for anyone to easily find other things that will let them keep enjoying their lives.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    I can't actually conceive of playing games like the article's author, I quite literally have not played more than 3 games per year in well over 20 years.

    For the most part always only one at a time until I'm done with it, rarely to ever revisit them except for a few notable exceptions.

    It's what happens when you are very careful to only play games you just know will well resonate for long periods of time, 6 months at a minimum.

    Sure, there's been occasional mistakes, but not very many.
    Scot

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    I've coped with MMO burn out at different times by both, just playing something else or not playing much of any games at all. Before I was retired and when I was much more into photography and photo editing I sometimes spent most of my spare time with that other hobby instead of gaming and my "spare time" was of course much more limited when I had a full-time job and my kids were still at home.

    These days I do have much more time to do as I please but MMO burnout is no more nor less than it used to be.

    I play other things, read more, scrape the bottom of the Netflix and Prime barrels and then it often goes away and I'm back to the same MMO I've been playing for 8 years.

    For some games it never goes away so in those cases it really wasn't so much burn out as it was just me being done with it. We really weren't "on a break" the relationship was just done like dinner :)
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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    I’ll jump a lot from game to game. I’ll also revisit some older games.

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  • nate1980nate1980 Member UncommonPosts: 2,072
    edited June 2022

    lotrlore said:


    Scot said:


    lotrlore said:



    Angrakhan said:


    "especially as we spend hours upon hours in our favorite virtual worlds day in and day out."





    Right there is your problem. I combat that by doing productive and rewarding things with my time. A few examples are in addition to my day job I have two businesses my wife and I started. Also, I picked up playing my bass guitar again which was a passion of mine since middle school through college. Date nights with the wife. Spend time with my kids. Grab a bite with real life friends. I could go on.





    Hours upon hours day in day out? Ain't nobody got time for that!





    I'm sure you guys will all dog pile me for saying this, but hey someone has to speak some truth in your little echo chamber you have going here. This website reminds me of a group of alcoholics bragging about your latest bender and cheering each other on in the process. You're addicted. You have a problem. This burnout is just a symptom of your brain and body begging you to stop. You should listen to it.





    Let me guess... You can quit anytime you just don't want to, you just don't want to, right?





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    Oh I don't think you're necessarily wrong. As I've gotten older I do this less and less, personally. But I remember my younger days (I'm 35, I'm not _that_ old) where I could spend 12 hours a day wandering Skyrim or building in Minecraft with a friend. Now I do that less and less.



    Other than playing long sessions for work, the longest I've played a game in one sitting lately is 3 hours of Jedi Fallen Order last week.



    But when I did do this, the hours upon hours, day in and day out, I would find myself increasingly burnt out quickly. And honestly, and this isn't to complain about my gig - I love it - but cramming games for reviews, especially MMOs, take a toll on the enjoyment too. The all-mighty SEO gods have to be appeased and all. So that is really where this piece was coming from. My past, and the current present with the burnout I'm feeling again.



    Thank Christ for a new TMNT game.


    I can remember back in the nineties discussing how we wanted to be on a gaming magazine as a job. Why its not even a job its a hobby, was our staring point. But someone, I don't think me realised that if you do anything for a job it becomes work and work is no longer a hobby. I would say the same problems occur for streamers. We struggle with this as players, if you are doing reviews and so on it must be doubly a problem.


    The thing that makes it more "work" than "play" is how games are covered. Because sites (like ours, MOP, IGN, ANY site) is beholden to an algorithm for traffic, oftentimes games are reviewed under crunch times. When I worked at IGN, timelines were so strict. Reviewing an MMO in two weeks is not feasible, yet that's what's expected because of that SEO window. I will note, though, that the reviews editor Dan is an absolute legend and would work with timelines to make it easier on the writer. Not many other sites would do that.

    For us here, we're more lax with that. Many of our contributors have day jobs which is why you'll see delays in the big reviews we do (such as Diablo Immortal taking three weeks when many other sites had it out in one). 

    Playing games for review is such a different animal than anything else in this industry. It is definitely not the ideal way to play games for sure, and that does take a toll. 

    Thankfully, I love this stuff, so even with the burnout I can't imagine doing much else. And I think streamers are the same, at least the ones I talk to and work with. We love the gig, the people, and the games themselves. Creating that work-life balance in games is what's difficult. 

    Throw natural burnout on top of that with anything and it's a bad mix, though. 



    I can't speak for everyone, but I don't read the reviews from any site because experience has taught me that it takes a great deal of time to actually know a game in and out to give an objective review. The time it takes to know a game in that way varies by genre, obviously, but MMORPG's are the longest.

    As for burnout, I've experienced it multiple times in the last 22 years with various games beginning with DAOC in 2004. I solved it by playing different kinds of games. Right now I'm playing through a backlog of games in my Steam library. I haven't touched a MMO since Shadowlands released. Even then, I played MMORPG's casually. The MMORPG communities and companies have changes for the worse, in my opinion, over the years. I'm in my 40's now with a family and a good career. It's hard for me to go from real life to a video game where grown adults treat each other with disrespect, everyone accepts that as normal; not to mention the companies who make the MMORPG's have design decisions that are transparent to anyone that they're meant to waste your time and spend money in their cash shops.

    I remember grinding in random groups in DAOC, SWG, and CoH up to 8 hours a day from 2001 to 2006 (ish) and we all chatted and had fun leveling up and overcoming obstacles together. For at least a decade now, players are different, the companies focus is different, and I'm different. Even the single player game markes has changed. For the most part, you'd have a feature complete game released and that was that. KOTOR and Elder Scrolls games were among my favorites. Now you have Early Accesses, DLC's and content/cosmetic packs, and in-game shops. I don't buy games at release anymore (except for Elden Ring this year) because I know it's not the full game. I wait for all the content packs to come out and then the game to go on sale for < $20 on Steam. Then I buy it and add it to my backlog.
  • namcostnamcost Member UncommonPosts: 35
    I don't really get MMO burn out, because all of the modern MMO's are TRASH compared to the classics. But the issue with classics is there is nothing new to to them. Its still the same old game with the same old story and gameplay elements. It has nothing new to offer. Sure EQ gets expansions still, but what's the point? Its still OLD. The issue for me is more so game developers being lazy. They lost the ability to dream and come up with new idea's. They keep making the same regurgitated games or worse, remakes of old titles. Cashing in on nostalgia instead of making something worthwhile. They are too worried about MONEY instead of worrying about what gamers think. I honestly believe we are going into a gaming depression. A handful of good games like Elden Ring isn't going to save us from the countless trash games that exist. I can right now, fully design information wise an MMORPG-FPS game that would absolutely change the market forever. But it will never get made because I do not have the mindset of a coder, or the mindset of any kind of actual development. I am simply a dream. I come up with brilliant idea's. Those close to me I've spoken to and they agree its a brilliant game idea. Even more so the few people that HATE MY GUTS also think it would be a brilliant game. And they hated admitting it (I didn't tell them, the idea spread from person to person). Game developers, these huge companies, they don't hire people with good idea's. Because once the idea is created, no reason to pay that person. Game companies should start hiring thinkers in temporary positions, and then give them some kind of sale bonus where each sale they get like 1 penny or something. sell 1 million copies that person makes 10,000 dollars. Make it 15/m subscription (because MMO) and with 1 million players a month, that person would get 1 penny per sale so that's 10k a month. IF they don't think their idea isn't worth that, then that just shows the GREED of modern game development. Its not about making fabulous games, its about milking the average consumer.
  • shetlandslarsenshetlandslarsen Member UncommonPosts: 204
    Happened to me a few times.
    As many here have stated try some single player games or other hobbies for a while.
    Almost certain you will return. It is in our blood.   :)

    Speaking of other hobbies. Gone fishing after I finish my coffee. Calm seas atm. Going for cod. Wish me luck.

    Later today I will help some hobbits with pie and post deliveries.
    I am a scizo misanthrope. So one day I may go BANZAI on your post.
    Have not yet though. Maybe there is hope?
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,050
    I jump hardware when feeling burnout. Going from PC to Switch handheld mode is an entirely different experience, as is jumping to my series X on my big tv. Crazily enough it feels like I am doing something different yet the same of what I love.

    Not that I have a whole lot of time to play games, 2 hours a day max, including weekends. My 2000+ game library is mocking me.

    /Cheers,
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    edited June 2022
    Happened to me a few times.
    As many here have stated try some single player games or other hobbies for a while.
    Almost certain you will return. It is in our blood.   :)

    Speaking of other hobbies. Gone fishing after I finish my coffee. Calm seas atm. Going for cod. Wish me luck.

    Later today I will help some hobbits with pie and post deliveries.
    I dunno, Codfish pie doesn't sound too appealing, even to a cat, but maybe it's a cultural thing.

    ;)


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  • shetlandslarsenshetlandslarsen Member UncommonPosts: 204
    Kyleran said:
    Happened to me a few times.
    As many here have stated try some single player games or other hobbies for a while.
    Almost certain you will return. It is in our blood.   :)

    Speaking of other hobbies. Gone fishing after I finish my coffee. Calm seas atm. Going for cod. Wish me luck.

    Later today I will help some hobbits with pie and post deliveries.
    I dunno, Codfish pie doesn't sound too appealing, even to a cat, but maybe it's a cultural thing.

    ;)


    Hehe! agree I would not eat that. But you are tasked with collecting bad pies all over Hobbiton so you never know.  :)

    Got 5 cods , biggest one 2kg. Going to be bait for lobster season.

    Time for me to lose myself in lotro for a few hrs. wish you all a good day! 
    Scot
    I am a scizo misanthrope. So one day I may go BANZAI on your post.
    Have not yet though. Maybe there is hope?
    Nah there is really none for me or the human race. 
  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,017
    Although I'm well past retirement age, I still work part-time at a leading chip company. I wanted to write some games stuff as a hobby, fiddling around with UE5, but it is too similar to what I do at work (programming), so I haven't been able to do that much yet. It would lead to burnout.

    I also volunteer at the local food bank, about 10 hours a week. So it almost feels like I'm working full time anyway.

    My gaming time is limited to a few hours a day at most. Even so, I can get burned out on a game, so I rotate through different types of games.

    I also consider LoTRO as a refuge, along with CoH. Also, the Civilization games, No Man's Sky, Skyrim, and survival crafting games. Even played some Fortnite with the grandson, but I'm mostly a hindrance. Too slow now :)

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    Really I havent cared all that much for many years...It was difficult in Everquest watching so many leave, including people in my guild that I grouped with all the time....ALl the MMOs since WoW there is no attachment whatsoever....Many of them are just another game.
    Dattelis
  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,385
    I recently suffered an MMORPG burnout so I am playing Nexomon and Atelier games. I always switch genres when I suffer a burnout.
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  • DattelisDattelis Member EpicPosts: 1,674
    edited June 2022
    Really I havent cared all that much for many years...It was difficult in Everquest watching so many leave, including people in my guild that I grouped with all the time....ALl the MMOs since WoW there is no attachment whatsoever....Many of them are just another game.

    That's honestly how I have been feeling about most mmorpgs lately. It just feels like they are places for people to do things and experience stuff (like going to a themepark, so I guess that's pretty accurate) instead of existing in a world. The only ones that kind of seem to learn more towards world building usually have some kind of pvp focused element (like Albion, Archeage, etc) which unfortunately isn't for me. There are some private servers of mmorpgs that I hear try but honestly I'm not a private server person.
    Theocritus
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